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rayray519 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Is it possible to "unfloat" a widget once you have placed in on your desktop?  They remain ontop of all running applications which is a bit annoying. 

 

Thanks!


Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7)
  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (29,990 points)

    I assume you're talking about a Dashboard widget that you have jumped through a bit of a hoop to get on the desktop...  correct?  If so, I believe that what you do is start dragging it, then hit F12 (or whatever hotkey brings up the Dashboard on your system) and drop it back in the Dashboard.

  • murrayE Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    It sounds to me like the OP wanted to do just the opposite of what you're describing. Namely, given that a widget shows in the Dashboard, which overlays everthing else, how does one unattach it from the Dashboard floating display so that it can be used as a separate app in its own separate window, just like any normal app?

     

    In any case, how can one do what I've just described.

     

    As a case in point, I have the iStatPro widget that shows temperatures, etc. It's not really all that useful unless I can have it showing while I work on various apps. But as things stand, to use it now I have to interrupt what I'm doing and open the Dashboard, read the resuls in the widget, then close the Dashboard.

     

    Incidentally, how can one begin dragging and then hit F12 on the Apple wireless keybaord, where you have to hold down the Fn key while pressing the F12 key to get an actual F12 instead of the volume-increase action? It would seem to take either gigantic hands to stretch between the two keys with the fingers of one hand while moving the mouse with the other.

  • rayray519 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thats correct murrayE - I wish to have the Dashboard weather widget specifically, act as an independant app, not floating over all open/running applications.

     

    I have been searching online and have come up with "it can be done, but not easy" - without any followups, or "no it can't be done"..

     

    Either way, if anyone is able to find a workaround, that would be greatly appreciated. 

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (29,990 points)

    So, you want to actually put a Dashboard widget ON the desktop, not take it off the desktop?  In that case, it's not that hard, assuming that the following still works in Lion.  Paste the following command into the Terminal:

     

    defaults write com.apple.dashboard devmode YES

     

    Then you need to restart the Dock (the Dashboard is managed by the Dock), so do this:

     

    killall Dock

     

    When the Dock reappears, open the Dashboard.  "Pick up" one of your widgets and then hit the hotkey to hide the Dashboard.  Now drop the widget where you want it to go.

  • rayray519 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Thomas - yes, that is correct.  I can get the widget to appear on the Desktop fine, but it floats over all applications. 

     

    Here is an example - Regarless where I place the weather widget, it will always flot over all applications.  I want to be able to click on the active application and the widget to move behind it.

     

    Screen Shot 2011-08-08 at 9.43.36 PM.png

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (29,990 points)

    Then that may simply be a problem with doing this in Lion.  I believe that in previous systems it would be above the desktop but behind all other windows.

  • murrayE Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Exactly the same thing in Snow Leopard: the newly-freed widget floats atop other windows.

  • murrayE Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Now... how do you reverse the action so as to restore a widget back to the Dashboard?

     

    Of course I can simply open Dashboard and add back the same widget in the usual way (clicking the big plus sign, etc.)

     

    But I still have the free-floating version of the same widget -- and it's still on top of all windows.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (29,990 points)

    Yes, although if you do that while there is a widget that has been pulled off the Dashboard, I'm not sure what will happen.  Maybe it'll just go away with no consequences, maybe not, I dunno.  I'd put the widget back on the Dashboard first.

  • murrayE Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Yes, I did put it back on the Dashboard. But another copy is still free-floating on the desktop, and it's still on top of other windows.

  • David M Brewer Level 6 Level 6 (9,270 points)

    To put the widget back into the dashboard... Grab the widget with your mouse and hit the dashboad hotkey.

  • murrayE Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    I found out how to get rid of the free-floating version of the widget here:

    http://www.askdavetaylor.com/dashboard_widgets_on_my_mac_os_x_desktop.html

     

    You do not manually add the same widget back to the Dashboard (and if you did, first remove it in the usual way). Rather, you stay with the same commands:

     

    defaults write com.apple.dashboard devmode YES
    killall Dock

     

    Now you do what, with an Apple wireless keyboard is a feat of bodily contortion:

     

    1. Click on the free-floating version of the widget and keep the mouse button down still.
    2. Hold down F12 -- that is, on the wirelesskeyboard, hold down together the two keys fn and F12 at opposite corners of the keyboard. This opens Dashboard. And you're still holding down the mouse.
    3. Drag the free-floating version of the widget back towards the displayed Dashboard and release the mouse.

     

    Now, unless you want to be able to too-easily drag other widgets off the Dashboard, repeat the same two Terminal com mands but with NO instead of YES.

     

    All this seems ridiculously complex for something that ought to be trivially easy to do and to reverse.

  • murrayE Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    As I say in my own post on how to restore the widget, this is hardly an easy thing to do when the fn and F12 keys are at opposite corners.

     

    Perhaps with two mice (??) or a mouse and trackpad both active (??), you could drag the free-floating widget as you simultaneously click the Dashboard icon in the Dock.

  • David M Brewer Level 6 Level 6 (9,270 points)

    Another way to remove the widget from the desktop is to... Open the dasboard... click on  the icon... click on the MANAGE WIDGET button... find the widget you want to remove from the desktop... uncheck (turns it off) the widget and recheck it again.

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