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  • Sam Beaver Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)
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    May 11, 2012 9:22 PM (in response to Courcoul)

    yeah, thats at the heart of it. try different mouses or wacom tablets all you want, the apple controllers simply aren't a good substitute for the simplicity of its earlier design which gravely degrades the whole person to computer relationship.

    theres a shame on you apple.

     

    there a top ten list of good mouse substitutes that mayhaps alleviate the need for the larger scrollbars?

  • MDBfromvenice Calculating status...
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    May 12, 2012 12:12 AM (in response to Sam Beaver)

       With all the posts about the missing arrows, has anybody heard from Apple? Do they even read these discussions?

     

      I guess we all will have to think IOS and start gesturing with the many fingered flips, what about people with disabilities who have limited control of their fingers?

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    May 12, 2012 12:22 AM (in response to MDBfromvenice)

    No they do not respond here, may not even read anything here. Also the amount of posts here is increadibley minimal compared to the amount of Mac users in the world. Only a few that don't like their removal post here. Personally I have forgotten all about them since it will be getting on to a year soon since they disappeared. If they haven't come back in that time then unfortunately I wouldn't be holding my breath.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Pete

  • Courcoul Level 6 Level 6 (11,140 points)
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    May 12, 2012 12:23 AM (in response to MDBfromvenice)

    MDBfromvenice wrote:

     

       With all the posts about the missing arrows, has anybody heard from Apple? Do they even read these discussions?

     

      I guess we all will have to think IOS and start gesturing with the many fingered flips, what about people with disabilities who have limited control of their fingers?

    No, Apple does not read these user-to-user help forums designed to save them money by not requiring so many Banglalore slum dwellers to man the call centers. They only show up here to monitor us and expunge inappropriate content (censor being yet another Calcutta resident paid $0.10/hour while sipping kat at some rundown internet cafe).

     

    A news article on how Bethesda had to purchase Samsung tablets so the disabled vets could use them might go a long way to helping the ergonomy "geniuses" see the light.

  • ankhank Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 12, 2012 4:45 AM (in response to mdavidsydney)

    Crap, this HURTS.

     

    After the carpal tunnel surgery failed to help -- delayed too long by employer's doctor claiming it was just "tendonitis" until the nerve damage became obvious -- I've had to use "the biggest possible trackball"  to be able to use the computer.   That's either a British Trackerball, or the Crayola Kids' Trackball  -- giant monster trackballs.  Key is they're too big to grip, can't squeeze -- so don't hurt.

     

    None of the mouse or pad alternatives avoid those closing-gripping-squeezing

    uses of the hand.

     

    I can't keep changing what I use to suit Apple's stupid idea about what looks good in their ads.

     

    I got Virtualbox running and I'm using Windows now -- on the Mini as a virtual machine

    It has big wide scrollbars.

     

    s!u!c!k!s  (hello automated censor, or are you just hovering over me as I type from afar?)

      But doesn't hurt.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    May 12, 2012 4:50 AM (in response to ankhank)

    Obviously you haven't kept up to date with what is expected with Windows 8 or you may have persevered with Mac's newer OSXs.

     

    But good luck

     

    Pete

  • cadjardin Calculating status...
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    May 22, 2012 3:08 PM (in response to gripplz)

    phew...thank you gripplz

  • SarahD22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 25, 2012 2:20 PM (in response to Gulldo)

    I am really quite angry about this rather stupid decision made by Apple. I have a physical disability and use a specialist trackerball. Scrolling up and down was never a problem in previous versions of Mac OS 9 / X but it is now, and is worse than the scrolling in Windoze. As an Apple addict, I hate to admit that.

     

    It must be a real problem for disabled people using single switch access to control the mouse pointer. I can't see an easy way to do it.

     

    Come on Apple, get with it, please....

  • CT Level 6 Level 6 (14,960 points)
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    May 26, 2012 7:33 AM (in response to SarahD22)

    Can't confirm!!!

  • SarahD22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 26, 2012 9:13 AM (in response to CT)

    CT. Do you work for Apple?

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    May 26, 2012 5:20 PM (in response to SarahD22)

    None of us work for Apple, so if you are unsatisfied here with advice given by other users them please ring Apple customer support about this issue. They may rewrite the Lion system for you.

     

    Good luck

     

    Pete

  • Miss.Latte Calculating status...
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    Jun 13, 2012 2:21 PM (in response to Gulldo)

    I also have a physical disability and am finding because of the lack of arrows, I have started using my Windows pc. I think it's ridiculous how Apple has set up several UI options to allow those with limitations to use their products, and has now made it more challenging by taking out something that is basic and necessary for some of us. Steve Jobs was the heart and sould of Apple. If his ideas are going to be changed then I will not be purchasing another Apple product.

  • Miss.Latte Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jun 13, 2012 2:40 PM (in response to Miss.Latte)

    UPDATE

     

    I decided to call Apple support in hopes of finding a way around this problem. I was told they are leaning more towards the trackpad, and there is no way to get the arrows back. Hopefully with enough complaints they'll fix this issue.

  • Martin Gallo Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to MDBfromvenice)

    For what this is worth, I submitted some feedbacl to Apple about this problem. They offered my a spot on the bete test team. I declined when I learned that there are no scroll arrows to test!

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