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Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

Hi all

 

Have Apple Killed iDVD? It's not on the App Store.

  • AndyGump Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I have been wondering about that too but can't find anything that would convince me that it is. If you have a brand new Mac right out of the box with Lion installed you might check in the Share menu of iMovie to see if there is a reference to iDVD. If there is then iDVD might still be around in the future, otherwise it may well be on the way out.

     

    Andy

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (128,940 points)

    I usually an an optimist but recently I've come to the conclusion that iDVD and iWeb won't be supported by Appple any more.  Why?  For one if you look at the Tech Specs of the various Mac models at the Apple store some show iDVD and some not.  The same goes with iWeb.  The iLife page does not mention either of the two apps. 

     

    The current iLife 11 is the last to be offered in a boxed version.  Since the App store does not offer iDVD or iWeb I'm led to believe that they are history. If it didn't have a boxed version I'd get one while they are still on the shelves.   The following is what i suggest in regards to iWeb users:

     

    It is now apparent that iWeb, and iDVD, will no longer be supported by Apple. This is evidenced by the fact that new Macs are shipping with iLife 11 installed but without iWeb and iDVD.  iWeb will still continue to work but without the following:

     

    Features No Longer Available Once MobileMe is Discontinued:

     

    ◼ Password protection

    ◼ Blog and photo comments

    ◼ Blog search

    ◼ Hit counter

    ◼ RSS Feed Widget

     

    All of these issues can be replaced with 3rd party options.

     

    There's another problem and that's with iWeb's popup slideshows.  Once the MMe servers are no longer online the popup slideshow buttons will not display their images.

     

    Click to view full size

     

    However, Roddy McKay and I have figured out a way to modify existing sites with those slideshows and iWeb itself so that those images will display as expected once MobileMe servers are gone.  How to is described in this tutorial: #26 - How to Modify iWeb So Popup Slideshows Will Work After MobileMe is Discontinued.

     

    Apple has announced that iLife is now an unsupported product and those iApps will only be available thru the App Store from now on.  However, there may be some copies of the boxed iLife 11 still on the shelves that would include iWeb and iDVD.  Those two apps were listed in small, gray text on the iLife 11 box that I bought. Personally, if I already didn't have a copy I would purchase one to have it for reinstallation purposes if ever needed.

     

    OT

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,755 points)

    Perhaps I need counseling, but I CANNOT watch a movie that I do not own in some physical form (preferably a DVD).

     

    The DVD is still my preferred method for distributing and watching movies.

     

    It's in Apple's business interests to see the decline of the DVD.

     

    I have a nice collection of DVDs, many of which are now out of print, and IF available, will sell on eBay for hundreds of dollars.  These studio released movies are usually not available on Netflix or iTunes.   And that's okay, because I have my copy.

     

    Some say the DVD is dead.  They're wrong, the top-selling DVD last year was "Avatar", selling over 10 million units!  A movie I liked better, “Despicable Me” sold over 5 million units.

     

    I plan to continue making my own movies using my preferred, combination of iMovie 06 and iDVD 11.

     

     

    http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/2010.php

     

    I strongly recommend that you purchase a copy of iDVD while you can still do so at a reasonable price.  Don't wait too long to do this. The price of iMovie 06 is already around $100.

  • Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Actually this brings to mind a more major concern.

     

    So lets assume that I had bought iDVD when it was on the store. Now they've pulled it would I still be able to get it from my purchase history or is it a case of once it's dead it's dead.

     

    I'm at work now and have notice we have it installed on our recently purchased SL macs to I'll take a copy home from here. Yes I appreciate that it is naughty before any one gets on their soapbox but if Apple stick it back on the store then I'll gladly purchase it!

     

     

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (128,940 points)

    Can't answer your question about the history.  Personally, I would purchase a boxed version of iLife 11 to that if a reinstallation was necessary it could be done and get all of the themes, etc, installed properly. I just like to have the "hard copy" of the app for installation. But that is quickly going by the wayside.

  • sket123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm new to Mac. My iMac came preinstalled with Lion and iLife 11. I don't have iDVD becuase it isn't pre-installed on new Macs now. It isn't available to buy in the Apple Store. Where can I legally obtain it without having to buy the whole iLife suite which I object to as I have already paid to have it as part of the pre-installed software on my Mac.

     

    How am I supposed to burn an iMovie to DVD without iDVD?

  • Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    sket123 wrote:

     

    How am I supposed to burn an iMovie to DVD without iDVD?

     

    That's a good point. I am at the assumption now that Apple expect you to sign up to iCloud and stream everything.

     

    I copied iDVD from work and it runs fine on Lion I was even lucky enough to find the Extra content on our software update server.

     

    So seeing as there is no issues (or at least that I've found) with Lion why remove it?

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (128,940 points)

    The only way to obtain iDVD is to purchase iLife, either iLife 11 or iLife 09.  That way you'll have a version of iDVD that will let you reinastll if ever necessary and be sure you'll get all of the themes availalbe up to that time.

  • melican Level 4 Level 4 (1,035 points)

    You may also want to consider buying Roxio Toast.  Depending on your needs, that may preferable to spending money on a product (iDVD) that's at end-of-life.

  • Charles Palenz Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)

    toast has a limited DVD menu, iDVD has much better "look" for the final product.

  • zarathu Level 2 Level 2 (260 points)

    Apparently Apple believes that it can convince the majority of users(and only 23% of the world has broadband necessary) to put all our personal movies and stuff in their iCloud. 

     

    Perhaps I am too old.  I can see so much loss of personal privacy in this that its not even conceivable.  Anyone who doesn't think that Apple(or some other governement agency in the guise of National security) won't read your personal data, look at your movies, etc., is either really really dumb or very easily duped.  If its possible, it will be done.  And it will be possible, if your stuff is on somebody else's tera byte drive.  And if you aren't even renting the space, none of that stuff there actually even belongs to you once you put it into the cloud.

     

    But its a moot point for the vast numbers of us who don't have broadband. 

     

    Looks like Snow Leopard for ever!

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,755 points)
    still be able to get it from my purchase history or is it a case of once it's dead it's dead.

     

    With just a handful of exceptions all of my software was purchased on disk.  So in my case there is no “history”.

     

    I am the only one who knows what software is on my computer.   If you purchase iDVD on disk it should work for a very long time.

  • Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Ziatron wrote:

     

    With just a handful of exceptions all of my software was purchased on disk.  So in my case there is no “history”.

     

    Same here. It's only Lion and the new Xcode that I have downloaded from the MAS - cos I've had to. I have an olds copy of iDVD (and DVD Studio Pro). But I have recently done a clean install of Lion and was hoping to put lion compatiable stuff on. I'm goining to invest in a spare hd for SL so I can have all the software I know and love.

     

    I too prefer to have a copy of everything locally. In fact it p*****d me off when software update stopped allowing you to keep the package you downloaded!

     

    re-ilfe 11 I've not come across a boxed copy yet... people are selling out!

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,755 points)
    I too prefer to have a copy of everything locally. In fact it p*****d me off when software update stopped allowing you to keep the package you downloaded!

     

    That's odd.   The first thing I do after downloading is make a copy of the package.

     

    If people were not allowed to make backups, there would be zero sales at the App Store

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