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  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (46,520 points)

    Maybe he is a troll.

     

    Allan

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,400 points)

    Perish the thought

  • Johnnyjoe11 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Cs- thanks again for helping me follow your chain of thought. I know you have something that you feel emphatically right about. My weakness is that that might make me wrong. Shudder to think. So let me correct you on a perhaps small segment of this, as I understand it. You say their servers "understand" a viable address based on its timeliness of return or NOT. Here is how you are wrong in 2 count them 2 ways.  1. I have used bounce on more than one occasion when the mail arrives and within seconds or at least minutes to bounce it. That dispels your argument in that case. 2. Servers- and another topic of discussion -especially Apple servers- notoriously delay or bog down in traffic, stalling the delivery before it occurs so to speak. Now this is a fact. I have a friend who experiences it on a weekly basis- much to his chagrin. Mail is delayed for often days at a time. Wether the delivery can be tracked by receipt is going to be a sticking point. Someone else can address this- but I believe the client Mail was not able to provide that information. I do think that is changing and perhaps why Apple is putting Bounce in the dust bin. Apple has vowed to evolve their messaging OS to appear almost live with receipts and chat type features. But I have been envious of Outlooks ability to do it for some time. At any rate I am sure its buggy as **** up to the present. What you are supposing is that they have an algorithm to determine how long a mail sits somewhere to determine authenticity. Or more correct how long between actions within a program, by timing that device. Highly complex I would imagine. Answering a mail has been the gold standard (proof of receipt). Opening its HMTL features(loading images) has also been considered irrefutable. Answering an email is not the question here. But bouncing a mail can be done without loading the HMTL. At least mine seems to work that way. I always bounce without loading the features, hopefully you know that can be a preference within Mail. As to your argument that using it makes me a spammer- you will have to seek more profound help for that position. Its just a little childish don't you think? Oh heck let me take a stab- if doing my small part to trip up senders of unwanted mail makes me a vigilante spammer- I wear that with pride.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,400 points)

    Johnnyjoe11 wrote:

     

    if doing my small part to trip up senders of unwanted mail makes me a vigilante spammer- I wear that with pride.

    You know how I feel about spammers, vigilante or otherwise, you are sending your problem mail to someome else. Shame on you.

     

    Bye

  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (46,520 points)

    With that kind of an attitude toward email, certainly hope you never find my email address. I want you SPAM even less then you do.

     

    Allan

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (5,840 points)

    Ahh Johnny, your little anti-Aople jibes are coming through now. So you are here as a troll and a spammer. You will not be making too many friends here and along with your total lack of understanding of the obsolete Bounce feature your novellas are becoming more ridiculous each time.

     

    Bounce=gone

     

    Pete

  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (46,520 points)

    Good riddance, I say.

     

    Allan

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,400 points)

    Guess you could say that Bounce has been bounced! a fitting swansong for it.

  • DigitalDoctor Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You should be able to create an Automator workflow to Bounce email:

     

    1.  Open Automator

    2.  From the Menu Bar choose File, choose New

    3.  In the active window choose Services

    4.  Your workflow will be as follows:

         a.  service receives No Input in Mail.app

         b.  Actions will be Mail > get selected mail messages (drag to the working window if you aren't familiar with Automator)

         c.  Actions will be Utilities > Run AppleScript (again just drag to the working window)

         d.  Copy and paste the following as the text for your AppleScript

     

    on run {input, parameters}

              tell application "Mail"

                        repeat with eachMessage in input

      bounce eachMessage

      delete eachMessage

                        end repeat

              end tell

    end run

     


    Now open Mail and when you find a mail to Bounce simply go the the Menu Bar select Mail then choose Services at which point you should see an option to Bounce the email.

  • Ennel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I bought SpamSieve and have had almost no spams for 6 years now.

  • Trrroglodyte Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Here's a link to a third party add on for "Bounce" functionality.

     

    I like bounce. I use it a lot and i don't seem to have repeat spams. On the tech side of it working or not I'm not qualified to comment. But my experience has thus far been positive and it does give me a sense of satisfaction to bounce spams back.

     

    http://download.cnet.com/Restore-Bounce-Mail-Button-To-Lions-Mail-app/3000-20429 _4-75629050.html

  • barrysolarczyk Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, answered my question before I even had to ask it.

  • rivmo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thank god for this link -- i really need the Bounce feature and only now changed to Lion and was very disappointed to see I didn't have this option to send back spam to someone who is malicious. Hope the link works.

     

    PS the people who wrote in the complaint on the download site about it not being a useful app are assuming all spam is from unknown people. Sometimes you get spam from jerks you know that you want to stop having contact with and that's when you need this -- it's useful for the cases where you know it's going to go to the right person because you know the person. That's why AOL's block sender was useful too.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (5,840 points)

    rivmo wrote:

    i really need the Bounce feature and only now changed to Lion and was very disappointed to see I didn't have this option to send back spam to someone who is malicious. Hope the link works.

     

    PS the people who wrote in the complaint on the download site about it not being a useful app are assuming all spam is from unknown people. Sometimes you get spam from jerks you know that you want to stop having contact with and that's when you need this -- it's useful for the cases where you know it's going to go to the right person because you know the person. That's why AOL's block sender was useful too.

    *sigh* 

     

    Try reading up and getting an understanding of Bouncing Mail.

    http://www.dontbouncespam.org/

     

    http://www.websiterepairs.net/dontbouncespam.php

     

    http://www.georgedillon.com/web/2_bounce_or_not_2_bounce.shtml

     

    http://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2006/180/

     

    http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001065.htm

     

    etc etc etc etc.

     

    Pete

  • Trrroglodyte Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks for the links Pete. I now may say that I am qualified to comment upon the tech side of bouncing and shall promptly cease the practice. I had no idea of the problems that I could cause so really, once again, thanks for the education.

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