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How do I get a high resolution pdf version of my pages document?

12011 Views 62 Replies Latest reply: Jan 7, 2014 7:40 PM by PeterBreis0807 RSS
  • ClothEars-2 Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    fruhilda and henrik,

     

    Could you please both stop using the word "loose" when the word you should be using is "lose".

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (27,270 points)

    thedvguy wrote:

     

    I do use shadows. they are necessary to the style of the ad. it has never affected the outcome befofe.

     

    That is not true.

     

    You may only have noticed now, but the OSX/ColorSync filter that Pages uses to convert the layout always outputs transparent bitmap objects, which includes shadows, reflections and 3D charts, at 72 dpi.

     

    Peter

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (14,725 points)

    Clootheears - I'll try!

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (27,270 points)

    Walt K wrote:

     

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    Walt

     

    Actually if this is 72 dpi, then this 288 dpi

     

    Screen shot 2013-02-12 at 5.38.08 AM.png

     

    Screen ruling is linear not area.

     

    Peter

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (27,270 points)

    ClothEars-2 wrote:

     

    fruhilda and henrik,

     

    Could you please both stop using the word "loose" when the word you should be using is "lose".

     

    ClothEars

     

    You should give the posters here a break, not being native English speakers.

     

    fruhulda and henrik are Danish/Swedish and many others are American.

     

    btw You misspelled fruhulda.

     

    Peter

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (14,725 points)

    Good spotted, Peter!

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (27,270 points)

    Well spotted.

     

    Peter

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (14,725 points)

    Again!

  • ClothEars-2 Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Oddly enough it was when I worked in the US that I first noticed this error. That was more than 20 years ago. Problem is that people copy each other. I did this myself when I worked at CERN - used some French words I thought existed (I'd heard them used by other English people) until my French office-colleaugue pointed out my error.

     

    Meanwhile I'm trying to read as many posts as possible for clues to ColorSync, PDFs, shadow flattening, and related matters.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (27,270 points)

    fruhulda wrote:

     

    Again!

     

  • Henrik Holmegaard Level 3 Level 3 (575 points)

    > Meanwhile I'm trying to read as many posts as possible for clues to ColorSync, PDFs, shadow flattening, and related matters.

     

    The screen imaging system has supported transparency since the QuickDraw Graphics Extension in September 1994, but PostScript does not support transparency since tracking the states of anywhere up to 100 object layers in a transparency stack is memory-demanding (per John Warnock to the British Computer Society). PostScript and Encapsulated PostScript also do not support the tagged file format technology of the TrueType Specification (TrueType, Apple Advanced Typography, Microsoft OpenType) and the device profile format of the International Color Consortium (well, EPS allows a device profile to be embedded as PS%% comments, but there is no obligation for a PS interpreter to process PS%% comments, so in practice EPS is as device-dependent as PS).

     

    For reasons best known to Adobe and Apple marketing in the 1998-2002 time frame, marketing of the message that the screen imaging system could support accessibility for colour information, character information and content information (on the relationship of the layout rendering order to the logical reading order) by supporting PostScript to PDF, and by not supporting extensions to PDF 1.4 such as XML, we all find ourselves in a pretty pickle.

     

    If you want to pursue information on precisely where you are in the pickle, please use another passage into the Apple fora. For the information you want, go to lists.apple.com and sign up for the ColorSync Users List. Off the cuff, there are two other lists, one is the list at color.org (which is probably most interested in ICC engineering) and the other is an amalgam of lists for ISO 15930 PDF/X and ISO 19005 PDF/A which is maintained by the people in Germany who have the contracts for the heuristics Adobe Acrobat uses in automated software auditing of these rendering specifications.

     

    > Oddly enough it was when I worked in the US that I first noticed this error. That was more than 20 years ago. Problem is that people copy each other. I did this myself when I worked at CERN - used some French words I thought existed (I'd heard them used by other English people) until my French office-colleaugue pointed out my error.

     

    I tend to find myself wandering a bit aimlessly between UK English and US English when sorting out how to spelling 'organization,' 'colour' and much else.

     

    Best,

    Henrik

  • Henrik Holmegaard Level 3 Level 3 (575 points)

    Peter wrote:

     

    > You should give the posters here a break, not being native English speakers.

     

    Not to worry.

     

    On an aside, I posted development a while ago that in ISO 19005 PDF/A 2005, 'colour' (UK English) and 'color' (US English) occur. Per ISO 19005 PDF/A 2005, the editor of the standard is required to use ISO 639 meta-information for unique language identification. As it happens, I only have the printed edition which is all that one can have through the library lending system, so I'm not sure ISO 19005 PDF/A 2005 in fact conforms to ISO 19005 PDF/A, because I can't inspect the XML tags in the data structures of the PDF page description -:)

     

    Cheers for chilly Copenhagen, sun shining, snowflakes just stopped coming down.

     

    Henrik

  • ClothEars-2 Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Henrik Holmegaard wrote:

     

    For reasons best known to Adobe and Apple marketing in the 1998-2002 time frame, marketing of the message that the screen imaging system could support accessibility for colour information, character information and content information (on the relationship of the layout rendering order to the logical reading order) by supporting PostScript to PDF, and by not supporting extensions to PDF 1.4 such as XML, we all find ourselves in a pretty pickle.

     

    If you want to pursue information on precisely where you are in the pickle, please use another passage into the Apple fora. For the information you want, go to lists.apple.com and sign up for the ColorSync Users List.

     

    In terms of pickle, I'd say I'm one of probably many people who for the most part print stuff at home on a £100 or so printer and that works just fine. But, I volunteer for an organisation that from time to time wants a decent quality leaflet - 2000 copies. Let's say, three or four times a year. I can do the layout just fine in Pages, it's the printing step where we go wrong (or risk that, anyway). I know Peter has written a number of times that in this situation Pages is the wrong tool, and he's right, but I can't justify spending hundreds on InDesign, much as I might like to have the program. And I wouldn't become an overnight expert anyway.

     

    Thanks for the ColorSync Users List hint. I'll lurk there for a while first.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Henrik Holmegaard Level 3 Level 3 (575 points)

    > I can't justify spending hundreds on InDesign

     

    For what it's worth, not a single one of the Apple iWork User Guides (Keynote, Pages, Numbers) was made with Apple system level services and Apple application software. None. They were all made with Adobe application software that uses no Apple system level services, except the ICC profile database for the display profile.

     

    With the analoguous argument I brought about that Apple made ColorSync useable for high resolution printing in 2002 by changing the Generic CMYK Profile, so by the same argument there is no Apple office anywhere that is in a position to use Apple application software for Apple advertising / documentation.

     

    All I can do is write, and in writing I can tell the educational market what it should understand. If writing changes anything, then that's good. If it does not, then I have done what I could. Digitalisation is not going to go away, it is here to stay. So is bad advertising.

     

    Henrik

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