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Arrange by "Date Added" lists recently added files with "No Date"

One of my favorite new features in Finder is the option to "Arrange by Date Added".


I have a folder with three items added today. As expected, when viewed in Finder they are listed at the top of the window (in column view) in the "Today" section.


When I want to add these items as a new "source" in Handbrake, the newly added items in this folder do not appear in the "Today" section. They appear in the "No Date" section instead.


The same thing happens when, after processing with Handbrake, I want to add the newly created media files to my iTunes library. They appear in the "No Date" section of the window rather than the "Today" section.


To recap: Files added to a folder today appear in the "Today" section when viewed in Finder. The same files appear in the "No Date" section when viewed through applications other than Finder.


Has anyone else seen this problem?

Mac mini (Mid 2010), Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Aug 18, 2011 8:00 PM

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Posted on Feb 18, 2017 9:28 PM

I have a solution that worked for me. While you are in your application, for me, let's say I'm looking at the finder through Indesign, trying to find my last modified file. you click the "Change item arrangement" icon and select "None." this lists the true last date modified files, instead of filing them under "No Date." "Change item arrangement" icon is shown below. hope this helps!


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Feb 18, 2017 9:28 PM in response to edwardjc

I have a solution that worked for me. While you are in your application, for me, let's say I'm looking at the finder through Indesign, trying to find my last modified file. you click the "Change item arrangement" icon and select "None." this lists the true last date modified files, instead of filing them under "No Date." "Change item arrangement" icon is shown below. hope this helps!


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Feb 18, 2017 8:17 AM in response to Curtis Tucker

This has been happening on my Macpro 2013 running 10.9.n, 10.10.n, 10.11.6 so far. I create a folder in Finder and it goes to the bottom of no date. It happens in a variety of apps. Using Find file can't function properly at all. Files with dates that I have created are not listed. I do a search and files with properties that I search for are not listed while they are in front of me in another folder. It is an OS issue, but we have cool finding the arrow by swirling now so we should be happy. All the functionalities of the Mac OS is going to crap and a new OS pops up every year.


Have anyone noticed how all the Apple "multiple star" commandos are absent from answering these questions?


anyone?

Apr 28, 2017 2:24 AM in response to vassili.gorshkov@gmail.com

And still a problem.


This happens saving files from Office 365 and from Photos, so it's not exclusive to non-Apple products.


It's also inconsistent. Saving audio files from Audacity to Dropbox, they save according to date almost every time. And then - they don't. Downloaded from the same source to the same app, edited and exported the same way every time, and for no apparent reason it suddenly saves as "No date".


I find it particularly annoying with Photos, because that's an Apple product all the way.


I see these same complaints going back through 2013, so I guess I'd best not hold my breath waiting for someone from Apple to acknowledge it. Oh well. Just making my voice heard.

Apr 28, 2017 8:56 AM in response to Curtis Tucker

Like many, I've been been having this frustrating issue for years. It doesn't seem like a big deal if you are only working with one or two files a day. But for large, multi-file projects with lots of editing, having to scroll through a list each time adds up to an incredibly time-consuming burden.


A post above from years ago(!) suggests that the issue has to do with having an application open for more than a day, which somehow confuses it. Sure enough, a quick test confirms that. Photoshop was listing several files under "No Date" when I went to open or save a document. I quit Photoshop, then reopened it, and those same files are now listed under "Today".


I guess it has to do with how often an application "pings" Finder to retrieve date stamps on files. So my guess is that the issue is with individual software manufacturers and how their apps interact with the Mac OS.


But we use Macs because that interaction is highly regulated, resulting in a more reliable experience. So shouldn't Apple be making sure that app manufacturers are accessing the file system correctly and efficiently?

Jan 10, 2012 1:47 AM in response to johanhallstrom

I was struggling with this as well for a long time, and I just found a fix. I think the "No Date" problem is related to the Date format specified in the Language Preference Pane. I had a Swedish date format, and recently saved documents were sometimes categorized as "no date".


I switched the date format to English and now everything shows up fine in Finder. My guess is that this problem may occur when the date format is different from the OS language format.

Jan 22, 2013 5:25 PM in response to Craig Danuloff

@Craig Danuloff I found that my problem was somehow connected with Google Chrome Browse Files diolog only. When the day switches chrome stops correclty showing files sorted by date, but looking in Finder I found they are correctly listed. Closing Chrome (selecting Quit from menu) and opening it agian fixes the problem.

Just thought this may help you 🙂

Jan 23, 2013 11:45 AM in response to Harutyun

@Harutyun Thanks for the reply but if that is the problem then I don't know if that is really a solution. I work in Chrome all the time moving files around and can't quit out of chrome all the time.


I checked with Firefox and am getting the same issues on there.


Any new files are getting shown in no date section of the file open windowin browsers.


NOTE: this doesn't affect the general finder window

May 17, 2013 2:00 PM in response to Curtis Tucker

I think I just fixed this:


1. Open Settings

2. Click Date and Time

3. Uncheck 'Set Date and time automatically"


Obviously you lose out by not having the date and time change automatically, but you can always flick it on when you need to. I think most people are aware when the clocks go back and forth. 🙂


I was mistaken; it doesn't work 😟

Jun 22, 2013 10:16 AM in response to Curtis Tucker

I got the problem temporarily fixed by resetting NVRAM (PRAM):

- restart your Mac

- during startup press alt-cmd-p-r until you hear a second chime

- no more "no date" files :-)


Please note:

- I'm running OSX 10.8.4

- the problem occured for me when opening files through a web browser like Safari

- It only happened when I had as a file sorting criteria "Date Modified" selected

- The alt-cmd-p-r key combination is know as "zapping the NVRAM / PRAM". The PRAM is a programmable chip that holds various bits of information about your computer's hardware along with other items. It's role is similar to a BIOS chip in a typical PC.

- I still believe there is a bug - so the procedure above may only resolve the problem temporarily


I hope that this will reolve your problems, too.

The solution was provided by the Apple support team. Great job. Thanks.

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