6 Replies Latest reply: Aug 23, 2011 3:14 AM by westerneyes
westerneyes Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

Hello all, I am a bit dizzy from all the, what seems like, circular browsing to find what is going on.

 

Bought a used Penryn Macbookpro specs below.

 

From reading the expected specs of Penryn based machines online I am 99.999% sure that this machine is capable of multitouch gestures. As of yet there is nothing within the system preferences that  lead me to believe that nothing more than 2 finger scrolling/tapping is possible. The trackpad is identical to that found on a macbookpro3.1

 

As this is a seller refurbished model (he seems to have a stellar rep and a good returns policy) is it possible that it is some how a 'Frankenmac' with a 3.1 top-plate, keyboard, trackpad with associated firmware on a 4.1 body! Am I going insane!

 

Have I missed something obvious and detrimentally stupid in my search. Is there a firmware update I seem to have in my blindspot.

 

My re-awakened paranoia has led to a very frustrating , and fruitless, couple of days trying to find a working 'asd' using 2meg broadband: not fun. Not sure what i might learn if I did get a copy. Would it be worth running this machine through 'asd'?

 

Thanks for reading

 

Pat

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Hardware Overview:

 

  Model Name:          MacBook Pro

  Model Identifier:          MacBookPro4,1

  Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo

  Processor Speed:          2.5 GHz

  Number Of Processors:          1

  Total Number Of Cores:          2

  L2 Cache:          6 MB

  Memory:          4 GB

  Bus Speed:          800 MHz

  Boot ROM Version:          MBP41.00C1.B03

  SMC Version (system):          1.28f3

  Serial Number (system):

  Hardware UUID:

  Sudden Motion Sensor:

  State:          Enabled

 

Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad:

 

  Product ID:          0x021b

  Vendor ID:          0x05ac  (Apple Inc.)

  Version:           0.18

  Speed:          Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer:          Apple Computer

  Location ID:          0x5d200000

  Current Available (mA):          500

  Current Required (mA):          40

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (260,000 points)

    From Apple specs:

     

    Solid-state trackpad supports tap, double-tap, drag and scrolling.

     

    EDIT:

     

    The above is for a 3,1 machine. The 4,1 machine has Solid-state trackpad with Multi-Touch gesture support.

     

    Is there a Trackpad preference pane in System Preferences? What version of OS X is installed?

  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)

    ASD (Apple Service Diagnostic) is not available to the general public. It's proprietary software offered only to Apple technicians. If you were able to find it offered somewhere for download, the hosting web site and anyone who downloaded it would be breaking the law.

     

    You are correct in thinking the MBP 4,1 should support multitouch gestures — at least some of them, and more than the 3,1 does. But you haven't told us what OS version you're running, and that makes a difference.

  • westerneyes Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Point taken on asd. Would it be worth bringing it to my friendly local reseller to do same?

     

    Running snow leopard (does which point release make a difference? I'm doing a combo update to newest at the moment). After entering ser. no. through apples system I get this as the only option

     

     

    "Solid-state trackpad with Multi-Touch gesture support for precise cursor control; supports two-finger scrolling, pinch, rotate, swipe, tap, double-tap, and drag capabilities"

     

    thanks for replies and sorry for tech gaps in my story so far

     

    Pat

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (260,000 points)

    Seems to me you need to take this up with the vendor.

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,525 points)

    I bought a 4,1 MBP exactly because it had the better trackpad than previous MBPs.  Mine does support mutli-touch.  This is the info from mine:

     

    Hardware Overview:

     

      Model Name:          MacBook Pro

      Model Identifier:          MacBookPro4,1

      Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo

      Processor Speed:          2.4 GHz

      Number of Processors:          1

      Total Number of Cores:          2

      L2 Cache:          3 MB

      Memory:          4 GB

      Bus Speed:          800 MHz

      Boot ROM Version:          MBP41.00C1.B03

      SMC Version (system):          1.27f3

      Serial Number (system):

      Hardware UUID:

      Sudden Motion Sensor:

      State:          Enabled

     

    Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad:

     

      Product ID:          0x0230

      Vendor ID:          0x05ac  (Apple Inc.)

      Version:          0.70

      Speed:          Up to 12 Mb/sec

      Manufacturer:          Apple, Inc.

      Location ID:          0x5d200000 / 3

      Current Available (mA):          500

      Current Required (mA):          40

     

    I don't know if the differences in the Product ID and Version are significant or not.  I just provide for your reference.

  • westerneyes Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Just to round this off here is a screengrab from Better TouchTool. This bit of evidence convinced the vendor to allow a full refund. Now to decide to I want to adopt this wayward child!

     

    Thanks for all your helpful replies.

     

    Pat

     

     

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