AAC Files on other music players

Recently I've been having severe technical difficulties recently with my shitePod, the same one everyone else seems to be having. I'm very frustrated and I'm thinking of buying a new and different player.

The only problem is, I have loads of music (~30gb) in aac format. Does anyone know, am I restricted to ipods to listen to this music? For instance, if I buy a Sony or iRiver, do you think it will play my aac files?

Sony vaio, Windows XP, 4th gen ipod 40gb

Posted on Jan 22, 2006 10:14 AM

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Jan 24, 2006 4:06 PM in response to octo

On iTunes, you go to EDIT, PREFERENCES, ADVANCED, IMPORTING, and change AAC ENCODER to MP3 ENCODER. click OK. select all your songs, right click, and select CONVERT TO MP3. after all the songs convert, deleate the duplicate songs that are in the AAC format and keep the songs in the MP3 format. although this expands the size of your library, you can use the songs on any player.

Jan 24, 2006 4:28 PM in response to WinMaciPod

Song file size is a factor of bit rate and song length. Audio quality is a factor of bit rate and encoding format. AAC and MP3 formats are considered Lossy, as they sample the target music file and reduce the total size with some reduction of audio quality. Lossless files are considered CD replicants as they contain all the digital data on the original audio CD. They can be fairly large in comparison to the traditional Lossy file.

Encoding a music file into a Lossy compression format will strip details from the file. Transcoding from one Lossy compression format to another Lossy format will compound the loss of details from the file. (eg: transcoding a sound file from: AAC to MP3; or MP3 to AAC). The audio degradation becomes more apparent when transcoding files ripped at lower bit rates (less than 192kbps).

When you burn an AAC file to CD and then re-rip the CD as AAC or MP3, the sound you end up listening to will have gone through a lossy compression process twice. Those losses can add up, taking what were only mild or even unnoticeable deviations from the original sound after the first phase of compression and making those deviations much more noticeable and objectionable. This is especially true if you try to take music at a low bit rate like 128 kbps (what Apple uses for iTMS) and try to compress back down to the same low bit rate.

The preferred method is to save all audio "masters" in a Lossless audio format such as Apple Lossless, WAV, AIFF or FLAC (or the original CD), and then transcode directly from the Lossless source file to your preferred Lossy format such as MP3 or AAC. This procedure preserves as much of the original audio signal as possible and prevents the compound loss of audio details from the file.

The generally accepted theory is that AAC/128 sounds as good as, or better than MP3/160 (and possibly even MP3/192). Transcoding your AACs/MP3s will most likely result in noticeable audio quality degradation. But -- test it out for yourself. If you cannot hear the difference, then it may be acceptable. Bear in mind that any improvements &/or upgrades in equipment (iPods, headphones, your ears, etc.) may uncover the additional audio limitations you created at a later date.

Jan 25, 2006 11:25 AM in response to Buegie

Thank you guys for your answers. Yes, I had thought of converting my aac tracks to mp3, but figured there would be an appreciable loss of quality. The reason I encoded them as aac in the first place was because of the greater efficiency. (Plus, I don't want to rip all my cd's all over again!)

I'm surprised that no other manufacturere is making their players aac compatible. Surely there must be many consumers with large aac collections who are thinking of changing brand with their next player. I don't think Apple 'own' aac, do they? If other manufacturers are planning to steal into Apple's market share, wouldn't it be a good strategy?

Jan 25, 2006 3:58 PM in response to WinMaciPod

"Apple owns AAC"

Not at all.

Technically, AAC and Apple Lossless (ALAC) are separate codecs.

AAC is a newly developed codec by a conglomeration of several companies and is used with the MPEG4 ISO standards. It is not proprietary to Apple. See:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/technologies/aac/
http://www.vialicensing.com/products/mpeg4aac/standard.html

ALAC is an Apple proprietary codec. See: http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html

AAC and ALAC are different two codecs altogether.

Jan 26, 2006 11:38 AM in response to Buegie

Well Hello Sony, Hello iRiver, Hello Dell and Hello all you other consumer-electronics comapny out there. Please make the next generation of your music players AAC-compatible, and some of us p*ssed-off owners of expensive dead iPods might buy your product.

My next shot is to take it apart and disconnect the battery. If that doesn't work I'm throwing it in the bin.

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