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robertcc Level 1 (5 points)

I think the question speaks for itself.

  • Kappy Level 10 (266,041 points)

    Because you are too lazy to learn about it? See OS X Lion- About Auto Save and Versions. It's really very simple. And, if you knew anything about it you would understand why there's no Save As.

  • etresoft Level 7 (27,838 points)

    Don't complain about it here. Complain it about it to Apple.

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,319 points)

    It works great for me. Clearly, it ****** to be you.

  • Sjazbec Level 4 (1,670 points)

    because Lion just changed everything we thought a OS should behave.

     

    Apple likes changes and they even advertise their new software with that emphasis.. Final cut X : "Everything just changed in post"  ( FC X is also a slap in the face of FC Pro Users ) .

     

    Well it is Apple and some people like that.

  • H. Lamar Level 1 (40 points)

    I had a similar sense of anger and annoyance when I first failed at save and save as.

    Then while writing an email, (**** me for not writing it first in Word, saving it and then pasting into Mail, I know, I understand. Being ironic.) BUT, of course the spinning ball hit and it froze up and I clumsily pounced on the keyboard cursing all things Mac and hating myself for this slavery since 1990. I closed Mail through force quit, reopened it and low and behold in the drafts window of Mail there was my fallen email complete to the moment the dread ball and freeze occured. They got it right. This is something to trust. Lion does have a great grasp of bypassing having to hit save and save as much less duplicate while writing within one application.

    This is a good function that I am happy to have experienced first hand in how well it works.

    NOW if only the spinning ball and freeze up  and delay could be assuaged from haunting my beloved.

  • robertcc Level 1 (5 points)

    You assume (incorrectly) I haven't read up on it. I simply refuse to drink the Koolaid. But don't just take my word for it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksFkF4S4qI

  • robertcc Level 1 (5 points)

    I hunted around for a link to give feedback and this forum happened to be the most prominent one. Thanks for the info, I'll let them know.

  • robertcc Level 1 (5 points)

    I agree that the save feature in the event of crashes is a fantastic idea. However, it shouldn't be at the expense of functionality.

  • Kappy Level 10 (266,041 points)

    It isn't at the expense of functionality. It all works. You just need to get used to doing it a little differently than before, but Save As functionality is still present. Your complaint is about convenience, not functionality.

  • robertcc Level 1 (5 points)

    Do you work for Apple? Because it sure sounds like it.

     

    And are you even listening to yourself? Let's use your sentiment for the Apple slogan: "The functionality is still there, just not the convenience."

     

    Seriously? Wow.

  • SP Forsythe Level 5 (5,380 points)

    Robert,

     

    Clearly your Lion reality distortion field has crashed. Reinstall OS X.

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,319 points)

    robertcc wrote:

     

    Do you work for Apple? Because it sure sounds like it.

     

    And are you even listening to yourself? Let's use your sentiment for the Apple slogan: "The functionality is still there, just not the convenience."

     

    Seriously? Wow.

    Do you work for Microsoft? Because it sure sounds like it.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 (30,742 points)

    Save As has always led to stupid and dangerous behavior on the part of users.  If you live such a charmed life that you have never accidentally saved changes over the original document, by hitting command-S reflexively instead of choosing Save As like you meant to, then perhaps you don't know what I'm talking about.

     

    In Lion, you cannot do that.  You've got Versions, so even if the document is new enough that it hasn't been backed up yet, you can still undo such a mistake.  And, by being forced to use Duplicate BEFORE making your changes, instead of Save As AFTER making changes, you'd find it quite hard to make such a mistake now anyway.

     

    It's different.  But it's safer.  Get over your hang-ups on how it used to work and start thinking about how it ought to work.  In addition to a willingness to try something new, I imagine there's only one other thing that would be needed to make you happy: a keyboard shortcut for Duplicate.  You don't have to wait for Apple for that, just add it in System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts.

  • etresoft Level 7 (27,838 points)

    Sorry, I don't buy it. Autosave is cool new technology. I like not having to save anymore.Versions is cool new technology. It works very well with Autosave. I will be very happy when Office supports them.

     

    The removal of "Save as" is not related to these. There is no technical reason for it. It is purely an arbitrary user interface decision on Apple's part. Apple is not right 100% of the time. Apple's many successes over the years do a good job of overshadowing its flops. This is one of those.

     

    I have sent my disapproal to Apple. I have also encouraged Microsoft to cherry pick from Apple's good ideas and to leave the rotten ones alone.

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