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Software update procedure - one final question

I'm new to SL and new to my new iMac. 🙂

I asked about the sequence of doing updates listed in SU, but forgot to ask this procedural thing - sorry.


Ages ago, doing updates in Tiger, I remember following these steps as explained in a long doc by Klaus1.

Are these steps still recommended in SL for updating (in my case, from 10.6.6 to 10.6.8)?


(I am planning to use the combo update which I downloaded and then do the other updates suggested by SU, which I have also downloaded.)


With apologies to Klaus for abbreviating his long text and explanation to this short list:


Make a full HD back-up


Restart in Safe Mode - OR is this counterintuitive and removes somethings that actually the updater needs to access AND can I do a safe boot just by restarting or do I actually have to shut down and turn the iMac on again??

Repair permissions (I know, Linc, you don't think this is necessary)


Verify state of HD in DU - from the HD itself? or from an install CD?

Close all apps


Unplug all peripherals


Install update


Restart


Repair permissions again


Test this all out before doing further updates of other items on SU list


That's it - as far as I remember.

Does this still pertain? If not what can ve omitted?


Thanks, and thanks to Klaus1 who may or may not find this,

Mrs H

Posted on Aug 28, 2011 9:16 AM

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Aug 29, 2011 7:18 AM in response to baltwo

baltwo wrote:


You can check the HD's state using DU from either. However, you have to boot with another volume (or disc) to do any repairs.

Thanks. Now I remember that - fortunately, I've never had to do same.


One last 😉 question: do you go through the ritual described above for every update (drivers for printer update, iTunes update, iPhoto new camera type update - you get my drift...) or just system software update?


Mrs H

Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM in response to baltwo

baltwo wrote:


I usually have two or three bootable clones that I keep up to date, so it sort of depends on when I last updated them. Using Carbon Copy Cloner, the incremental update takes about 5-8 minutes; thus, it's a simple thing to do that while reading e-mails or surfing the web, then apply the update.

Not sure if you are answering the question I thought I asked. 😉


Do you go through the ritual I describe in my original question at the top of the page here - from restart in safe mode (and do you do that? or do you shut down and start up again??) through repair permissions, verify state,..unplug peripherals,... etc etc ...for every update you do, not just system updates?


Can one do a backup (yes, it does take me about 6 minutes, I do them often too...) while doing those other things?


What external HD's do you use? I like my LaCie's but have been reading some negative things about them and Lion (but I think the trouble the people are having refers to the LaCie backup software, which I don't use, - I use SuperDuper) but I'm not going to Lion any time soon as you already know. 🙂


Thanks again,

Mrs H

Aug 29, 2011 1:50 PM in response to Mrs H

Sorry, missed the salient details.


Never installed in Safe Mode. Just install and follow the directions, after ensuring that the bootable clones match the current set up.

You can run CCC updates or full clones whilst doing other things.

I don't unplug peripherals, but usually power down ext HDs and printers.

I roll my own, preferring Macally enclosures. OWC also has good ones. I usually use Hitachi or Seagate bare HDs.

I prefer CCC to SD!

Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM in response to baltwo

So. I guess you are saying no, you don't do the whole ritual as described in my original question.


I can only think of one final question (he gives a big sigh of relief! 😉 ).

With the iMac there is only one firewire port. If I want to use my 3 HDs - though I only keep one powered up for daily backups (the others I do weekly) - it looks like I'll have to get a firewire hub. Is that the way you do it? Or do you keep plugging in the firewire to different HD's - very annoying - this is how I've functioned since getting the new iMac.


Would you take a look at this please - any thoughts?

http://store.moshimonde.com/ilynx-800.html?gclid=CNmpi_2z9aoCFYHc4Aodq1HCOw


Mrs H

Aug 29, 2011 4:04 PM in response to John.Kitzmiller

John.Kitzmiller wrote:


You can daisy chain FireWire devices. It actually works really well.

duh, why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the suggestion, John.


It doesn't slow things down, or does it?


As long as I leave the first one in the chain always on when the iMac is awake (it has an automatic setting which #2 does also, but not #3) and turn on #2 when I want to access #3 this should work with 3 - right? I could even leave 1 & 2 always on since they both have an auto switch, #3 seems to stay awake when attached even when iMac is asleep...


Mrs H

Sep 2, 2011 1:17 PM in response to baltwo

baltwo wrote:


😀

Just when you thought you were finished with me - I have a daisychain (henceforth ref to as dc) question, I'll ask it here - and/or you can direct me to where it would be better placed.


The new iMac is causing me to re-organize my computing life and therefore my desk and Mr H's MBP. Such chaos and confusion...


I've done a ton of dc reading, YouTube watching (yes, there's a YT on how to set it up) and I still have a question of you two dc'ers (by way of Chitown that is):


A. I've read elsewhere that my model of LaCie's needed to be powered on in order to dc and to have FW pass through. Is it more stressful on the HDs to leave the power on and let them cycle down when not in use or to climb behind the desk and turn off the last one in the line (#3) which I'll probably only use once a week?

Or for that matter turn them all off and just turn them on (once a day) when I use them. I assume on and off is more stressful than just idling and this last idea is not good. When they are not accessed they just sit there, but they are attached to power and power is on (one of them has an LED that glows for a time, but I can hear it and it's not cycling (though every once in a while it seems to cycle on) - it's brand new so I'm monitoring how it goes). Eventually when not accessed, they go to sleep...


B. I know you will tell me not to do this, but I've done it for years with no ill effects (and I do have multiple - 3 or 4) backups of the MBP and iMac so sharing one HD for both is a not-to-worry.

Now to the question - the MBP is being back'uped on a tiny 1TB USB2 HD. If I bring that over to the desk with the iMac and connect it to an available USB2 port can I then clone from the USB HD directly to one of the FW drives in the chain which is connected to the iMac? Both drives will be mounted on the desktop so I assume I can do it.


I really can't wait til I get all this set up and resolved. It's driving me crazy and I assume I'm driving you crazy. 🙂


Mrs H

Sep 2, 2011 7:12 PM in response to Mrs H

I'm digesting stil, but I'll tell you my druthers. First, I only use self-powered FireWire HDs. Second, I don't daisy chain them, preferring to connect them, power them up, and then update their clones individually. They all share the same FW connection, but have separate power supplies. IMO, there's no need for dc'ing FWHDs. Third, I never use USB connections, since their too slow for data transfering. USB 1 and 2 are for peripheral usage: mice, keyboards, and printers. HTH

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