Ipad replacement - new or refurb ?

My Ipad first gen is two months out of warranty and it not holding charge. Apple has offered a replacement for a small charge. My question is; are these 'new' or 'refurb' products. I cannot find the definitive answer to this question, even though it's been asked many times.


The genius bar guys told me twice they were new products, but I just can't get a definitive answer from either Apple or the forums that confirms this. I am based in the UK so UK specific response would be appreciated.

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Posted on Sep 6, 2011 5:05 AM

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Sep 6, 2011 5:31 AM in response to memyself100

The out-of-service warranty page (http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=United_Kingdom&product=ipa d) says :

If you own an iPad that is ineligible for warranty service but is eligible for Out-of-Warranty (OOW) Service, Apple will replace your iPad with an iPad that is new or equivalent to new in both performance and reliability for the Out-of-Warranty Service fee listed below.

I'm assuming that your replacement will fall under the same out-of-warranty service 'rule', so it may be new (assuming that they still have any first gen iPad's left) or a refurb (which personally I think is more likely).

Sep 6, 2011 9:15 AM in response to King_Penguin

Thanks, that's what I thought, that it will most likely be a reconditioned Ipad replacement. Hence the reason I asked the Genius person twice if it was a 'new' replacement, getting a confirmed 'yes' in response....which is clearly not correct.


If they open up the reconditioned Ipad's anyway to replace batteries, glass and back cover and test the components etc, it beats me why they can't just offer a battery replacement on my existing device,


I am really careful with my technology and I don't want a device that some 'gimp' has thrown all over his apartment or puked over; in exchange, even if it's only the mother board, switches and cabling that is 'gimp original'.


And 14 months from new the batery is only holiding charge for one day, might be time to hand it off to my kids and get an Ipad 2 as I really don't want a reconditioned device. Funny how folks feel about that, but you wouldn't take you're new car in after 14 months and accept a reconditioned one eh ?

Sep 6, 2011 9:46 AM in response to memyself100

but you wouldn't take you're new car in after 14 months and accept a reconditioned one eh ?


I most certainly would, if the car were put through as thorough a process as Apple puts iOS devices.

In any case, you have no choice in the matter. Apple, except in very rare circumstances, will replace an iPad that is in for service with a refurbished unit. They have deemed this to be more cost-effective than trying to service a user's specific units. This is quite common practice for manufacturers of electronic devices of this class. If you cannot accept a reconditioned unit, you'll need to purchase a new device.


Regards.

Sep 6, 2011 10:27 AM in response to varjak paw

' put through as thorough a process as Apple puts iOS devices"


What kind of thorough process are we talking about here ! Switch it on (that works) Switch it off (that works too), or something more thorough ? Any insight would be apperciated.


I hear anecdotal forum stories about devices turning up with cookies etc still visible - maybe not so thorough a process, depending on what kind of evening the operative had before and how bored they are with cracking open Ipad's and removing mother boards all-day.


I believe if they (Apple) want to swap-out my new device for a recon after 14 months (too short timings), they should also offer a 50% discount on a new device for those that want it, then they can keep their duff products and sell em to those that can't afford new, or are too cheap to buy new.


Or... I could be too precious and wrong about everything !

Sep 6, 2011 10:43 AM in response to memyself100

This is what Apple says about their refurbishment process:


http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/apple_certified.html


Packaging for replacement stock will differ from that for units being sold, but the process is the same. I don't trust anecdotal reports, but it's not impossible that given the thousands of units being processed someone in the depot could not slip up and send out a unit that hasn't been through the process. It's absoutely very rare, if indeed it does happen.


I believe if they (Apple) want to swap-out my new device for a recon after 14 months (too short timings), they should also offer a 50% discount on a new device for those that want it,


Sorry, but that's a totally unrealistic expectation. No manufacturer, anywhere, that I've ever heard of offers such a program.


Again, Apple will give you a refurbished unit. If that's not acceptable to you, you'll have to decide what you wish to do. There's nothing more we can say.


Regards.

Sep 6, 2011 1:04 PM in response to memyself100

I was one of the many lucky owners of the first batch of the iPad2 with defective cameras. One month out of the box, the camera was dead. They exchanged my iPad. It took about three weeks to get it. They were really short on supply of these devices and they were in very high demand when they first came out so I wasn't surprised.


When I picked it up, it wasn't in a box but it had the same protective plastic wrap that my original came in. I had the salesperson in the store take it off and turn it on to make sure the camera was working. I don't remember why we opened it to check the 3G chip slot but we did, and there was a micro-SIM card in there. It wasn't even one from a Canadian service provider so, I'm pretty sure I received a refurbished device from who knows where. I have to admit, it is annoying to think that you pay so much for stuff and it comes defective and then you get someone else's refurbished, defective product as a replacement.


Having said all that, my "new" iPad works very well and in fact, it doesn't have the tiny chip on the edge of the glass screen that my original had. That chip drove nuts. The refurbished device was in better shape than the "unused" one out of the box.

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