4G 40G iPod Hard Disk Crash - Caused by Plastic?

I tried to search for this issue, no luck. Apologies if this has been asked and answered already.

My 40gb 4G iPod (almost an entire month out of warranty) crashed the other night. The hard drive wouldn't spin up (loud clunking noises), and after a minute or so I'd get the sad iPod icon. I tried resetting by going into disk mode, as suggested on the support page, but as the drive couldn't even spin up that was a non-starter.

This iPod has lived life in a rubberized case and has suffered no serious impacts in the past few months. When the problem began, I was doing nothing out of the ordinary with it (such as shaking, or running, or any motion other than typical usage). I use the iPod every day, or close to it, but I would expect the product to last more than 13 months.

What has happened recently was that part of the little plastic lining around the dock port broke off. This has been happening since I got the thing, and I figured that it wasn't a big deal. However, I believe that what happened was that a small piece of the plastic got inside the case and interfered with the hard drive mechanism in some way. Even if it didn't, 13 months is a ridiculously short period for any modern hard drive not subjected to serious trauma or viruses to die. My 3G model, purchased almost 3 years ago, still works great and my wife uses it every day. It has survived many more significant impacts that the iPod in question has, and it works great.

Anyone else had this problem? Is there a secret program that Apple has to fix it?

BTW, I went ahead and purchased a new iPod today, trading in the old one to get the whopping 10% discount. I also purchased Applecare for it, which is probably dumb.

If this is a big problem, I would like to know what Apple is doing about it.

I have been an extremely loyal Apple customer since the LC computer came out in 1990. I have owned around 10 different computers, and have hooked up several family members as well, so I've been responsible for at least 15-20 purchases over the years. This is the first time I've been disappointed in product quality. Were I not an iPod crackhead (I listen to audiobooks at night to help me sleep), I'd have gone to Apple about this, but I got no sleep all weekend and sleep deprivation won this round.

Thanks for any insights into this issue. If nothing else, I'd sure like to make Apple aware that there was a problem just to save others the headache and $400 for a replacement.

4G (B&W screen) 40G, Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Posted on Jan 23, 2006 3:43 PM

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Jan 23, 2006 4:13 PM in response to dougc

You are not alone. My 4oGB HP iPod crashed 2 weeks after warranty. It won't accept an update and when plugged in, the screen shows the Apple logo for 10 seconds, then the frowny face for 10 seconds, and then the battery symbol for a couple seconds.

What was Apple's solution? "Talk to HP"
What was HPs solution? Replace it for $319 + tax. Oh wow, what a deal. I then wrote a nice long letter stating my disgust with such a lemon of a product and that I expected them to replace my iPod.

Next I recieved a call from a case manager, Dan, and he thinks it may be a battery issue, so he said for $114 I can send it in for one with a good battery. I tried talking him into covering it with warranty since I was within 2 weeks, and he basically said No!

So, I'm in the process of trying to go up the ladder of power so I can justly get my iPod replaced without having to pay their ridiculously high replacement charges.

Jan 25, 2006 9:10 PM in response to Mark Jones

My iPod, while used often, was never in what I'd term a "hostile" environment. It rarely even went in my pants pocket, much less anything I'd call "hot".

OK, settle down, people.

I have had a handful of hard drive failures on Macs before, usually with "stock" hard drives (I usually purchase a new Seagate and install it myself - even did this on a "sunflower" G4 iMac once). In the late 90's, the hard drive crashed so hard that it was unrecoverable, I do backups a lot more often now (and I don't treat my iPod as my iTunes backup).

I'm aware that drives are sealed, although it's news to me that they are in a vaccuum. The only part of the iPod that was having trouble before was the plastic around the Firewire port, and since it had recently gotten chipped again, I thought it might have had something to do with the problem.

Regardless, I'll be very unhappy if the new 60gb version dies. It does sound better, though... 😉

Doug

Jan 26, 2006 2:14 AM in response to dougc

Well they are sealed in a vacuum environment and any repairs have to be done in a vacuum for obvious reasons, so that no dust is present, which once the hard drive is opened get in and ruin the mechanism.

Remember the spindle is hovering the read/write head above a spinning disk going at 7200 rpm and faster, so even the smallest obstruction could cause the drive head to crash into the platters and the results are like when a 747 goes crashing into the ground at a rate of knots.

Mark

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