iPad Numbers Date and Time format

I'm trying to track monthly expenses and have columns for dates that bills are due. I set up a tabbed worksheet to duplicate for each month but can't get the date columns formatted.


The first tab had the date format set as MM/DD/YY. Now when I enter a date in a new tab, I get a new font with the date as Month, 1, 2011. When I select the entire column to reset the Date and Time format, I select the format I want and it automatically adds the time as 12:00 AM. If I select "None" for the time, it doesn't always remove it. But if it does remove it, it changes the date format to something totally different. If I select a new date format, the time gets added back.


For example, I highlighted the column, and selected 1/5/11 and it adds 12:00 AM to everything in the column. I select "None" for the time and the time disappears but the date format changes to Jan 1, 2011. If I select another date format, it changes the format and adds the time back. If I add the time and then select None again, it changes the format back to Jan 1, 2011, no matter what I selected before adding the time and then removing it.


So is this a bug or do I need to start a new document? Better yet, is there a better way to create monthly spreadsheets for tracking bills, etc.?

iPad, iOS 4.3.3

Posted on Sep 7, 2011 11:59 AM

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Sep 20, 2011 10:02 AM in response to sbikes

I have encountered the same bug and it is indeed very annoying.


To make things worse I found another bug in the DATE/TIME function. Sometimes an incorrect day will display even though the day is correctly entered. For example, September 16 displays as September 11. Deleting the entry, which can be tricky itself, and re-entering the day sometimes will correct the display and sometimes will not.


As the ability to correctly enter, format and display dates is vital to most of my spreadsheets, I have been forced to abandon this app until the bug(s) get fixed if ever. Other spreadsheet apps in the store may not look as pretty but they get the job done and that is what's important.


BTW, your post is in the right place. I hope someone at Apple follows these discussions.

Sep 24, 2011 6:09 AM in response to sbikes

Just bitten by this bug myself, this is how I work around it. Not elegant but IMHO more robust.


1. Create a column for data entry, set format as string.

2. When entering data, follow this format:

Date: yyyymmdd (20110924 =>2011 Sep 24)

Time: hhmm (1745 => 17:45 = 5:45 PM)

3. [OPTIONAL] Create a !display only! column to 'beautify' the value by entering the formulas below.

Date: =DATE(MID(DateCol, 1, 4), MID(DateCol, 5, 2), MID(DateCol, 7, 2))

Time: =TIME(MID(TimeCol, 1, 4), MID(TimeCol, 1, 4), 0)

4. When/if you need to run any calculation on them, you have two options:

a. Use the 'beautified' column.

b. Create your own raw data formula.


Personally I went with 4.b, since I do not use the 'beautification' column.


@birdydon, is there any way you can share and/or reproduce the incorrect display?

If there is a bug with the actual end formatter, step 3 may be rendered useless and necessitates

the use of step 4b.


BTW, if you have a specific need to use some sort of financial app, I'm sure there are plenty already available.

Sep 24, 2011 11:20 AM in response to fruitful_taste

Seems there is no edit button here.


After having another go at this problem, I think I have found a better solution that solves both formatting and date entry problem. The only downside is that you'll need to make 5 columns for a single date rather than 1.


Step 1.

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For each date entry, create the following columns:

| FormattedDate | NumbersDate | Day | Month | Year |


FormattedDate is the final date displayed according to our format.

NumbersDate is the internal Numbers date representation.

Day, Month, Year columns are the ones you use for data entry.


Step 2.

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Create/convert our 3 columns date (Day, Month, Year) into Numbers internal date.

So, in NumbersDate column, insert this formula:

NumbersDate: =DATE(Year, Month, Day)


Step 3.

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Apply our own formatting for the date output display. In this example, I want an output in the form of Dayname, Day Month Year (Saturday, 24 September 2011).


FormattedDate: =DAYNAME(NumbersDate) & ", " & (Day) & " " & MONTHNAME(Month) & " " & (Year)


This way, changing the raw date input is as simple as changing the respective column. If any discrepancy between entered and displayed data exist, it is easily spotted by comparing between the raw date columns and the formatted output.

Another advantage is reducing the risk of data corruption to the date, since the date is now simply represented as integer values in their respective columns.

Sep 25, 2011 9:31 AM in response to birdydon

Strange is all I can say, certainly the date entry bug does not happen with mine (so far).


Anyway, here is a numbers document created in ipad that implements my second solution.

Feel free to copy the table/formula for your own use.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42982723/DateWorkaround.numbers


And the screenshots of the formulas here:


Step 2

User uploaded file

Step 3

User uploaded file



PS:

This is posted from my PC; I seriously can't believe how hard it is to post/reply via ipad. Also to make things worse, the nice formatting toolbar does not appear there as well !!!

I have always assumed the web experience on ipad is equal to the one on regular PC/Macs.

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