"Reciprocity failure" in digital photography?

Slightly off topic but there's a lot of good knowledge here so I was hoping to take advantage of it.


Those of us who shot (or shoot) film are aware of reciprocity failure, as light levels get very low and exposure times increase the film doesn't behave as it does at 'normal' times and light levels.


Is there a digital photography equivalent? I ask because the other night we had a killer thunderstorm going on here, perfect for photography because the rain held off for a good hour. This was also the first time I've don this kind of shooting with the digital camera. So I grabbed the tripod and camera (canon 40d) and went outside. Set the camera to iso 200 aperture between ƒ/13 and ƒ/8 pointed to the sky and held the shutter open. Exposure times were anywhere from 15 secs to 90 secs and like I said the shots were good.


However once I got them into Aperture I noticed what to me seems like more noise then I'd expect (and have seen with normal shots) for an iso 200 setting. Not enough noise to be a show stopper but still.


So that brings me to my question, do long exposure times/low light levels cause an increase in noise? And if so is there anyway to counter it in the camera?



thanks


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Posted on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM

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Posted on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM

Nikon's have "long exposire noise reduction". I think the theory is during a long exposure all the pixels on thesensor heat up, but some more than others, this causes them to register light (seen as noise). The long exposure noise reduction takes an idential duration exposure straight away after your shot, only with the shutter closed. The camera notes which pixels are registering light when there is none and than it subtracts the results from your image, so reducing the noise. Something like that anyway!!

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Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

Nikon's have "long exposire noise reduction". I think the theory is during a long exposure all the pixels on thesensor heat up, but some more than others, this causes them to register light (seen as noise). The long exposure noise reduction takes an idential duration exposure straight away after your shot, only with the shutter closed. The camera notes which pixels are registering light when there is none and than it subtracts the results from your image, so reducing the noise. Something like that anyway!!

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Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

No there is no reciprocity failure, yes there may be excessive noise.


Canon does offer the custom function that will create a dark exposure right after the one you take and then subtract them to get rid of hot pixels. Check out "long exposure noise reduction." Of course this will douple the effective exposure time, though you won't have to worry about shaking the camera.


If the chip heats up, you can get excess noise. Could it be that the sky was not as dark as you thought and you were getting some fogging? Do you get the same result if you keep the lens cap on?

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Sep 21, 2011 1:35 PM in response to Keith Barkley

Right, knew it wasn't "reciprocity failure" (hence the quotes) but was looking for something equivalent: long exposures/low light changing the normal characteristics of the image gatherer (film or sensor).


I found the setting for the long exposure setting, I had it off. Next chance I get I'll get it a try. The only drawback (and its really fairly major especially for lightening shots) is the fact that the exposure time is doubled and the camera is out of service during the second 'exposure'. Can't really predict when that next strike will come and as they seem to come in clusters this would severely limit the number of exposures I could shoot.


It was dark the only illumination was coming from the lightening but I didn't think to test it out by trying one exposure with the lens cap on to compare. Will give that a shot next time.


Thanks for the info,


regards

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