Sending to external editor does not send adjustments

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Sending to external editor does not send adjustments

Hi all - having an issue sending to more than one external editor.

I send to a NIK plugin (color efex), apply a fillter and then save.

After that I may want to send to Photoshop.

If I make any ajustments in Aperture (to the filtered file - the new TIFF master) before sending to the second external editor thos adjustments will be ignored.

For example -

I start with a RAW file. I make adjustments in Aperture. All Good.

I send this to Color Efex and give it a cross process. Save.

Back in Aperture i now have a TIFF file (cross processed).

If I then (for the sake of this example) completely desaturate the color (now its black and white) and then send this TIFF to photoshop using the send to external editor command the image in photoshop will be *color* - with the cross processing on it.

If I cancel this and then go back to Aperture and send the Black and White Picture to Colour effects again, it's also not black and white.

In summery the adjustments made after the first "send to external editor" do not carry to the second "send to external editor"

(It should be noted that any adjustments made before the first "send to external editor" do in fact carry to the external editor. It's only the second round that does not.)

Am i looking at a bug here?

Any others had this experience.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.1)

Posted on Sep 21, 2011 6:12 PM

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Answer 1

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Kirby Krieger

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Sep 21, 2011 9:09 PM in response to catchlight pics

This tripped me up as well. Let me see if I can find my flow-chart. (Busy right now -- may be a couple of days.)

The work-around is simple: create a new version after making Aperture adjustments and send that to the second of the external editors. Creating a new Version forces Aperture to create a new (new) Master when you invoke the "Send to External Editor" command. This new Master has all of your Adjustments baked in.

(At least that's how I remember it. Apologies if wrong.)

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Answer 2

Sep 22, 2011 12:53 AM in response to Kirby Krieger

Hi Kirby

Thanks for that. Assume this is a bug that can be "fixed" by that work-around?

Either way, it gets the job done so cheers for that.

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Answer 3

Dec 28, 2012 10:24 PM in response to catchlight pics

Did anyone ended up finding a better solution? This get annoying real fast for us multi round trippers. 😟

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Answer 4

Dec 30, 2012 8:49 AM in response to aapl.crox

This is not a bug! Aperture will not modifiy the master -- the quasi master created to send to the external editor is treated in Aperture as a master, but when tripped to the editor gets modified there. Any adjustments made in Aperture subsequent to a trip through the external editor will NEVER get picked up by a return trip. To do so would be a violation of the never modify the original doctrine.

Ernie

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Answer 5

Dec 30, 2012 11:50 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

I'm not sure I follow you Ernie, because by that logic wouldn't it not send the adjustments for the first round trip? Why discriminate only subsequent trips?

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Answer 6

Dec 30, 2012 12:17 PM in response to aapl.crox

The workflow when first sending is that you have a Version resulting from adjustments. Since that Version does not exist as an actual image file at that point, when you then ask Aperture to send it to the external editor, it then must create the quasi-master (together with the adjustments to that point made in the Version) as a proper image file to send.

Ernie

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Answer 7

CorkyO2

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Dec 30, 2012 3:18 PM in response to aapl.crox

Here is an Apple provided tip for working with Photoshop as an External Editor (which by extension currently applies to any use of third-party software used to edit images in conjunction with Aperture).

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5128

Hope this helps. 😉

Message was edited by: CorkyO2 to add link

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