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Remember those thrilling days of yesteryear?

Every Friday about this time at work it's my duty to swap an external RAID that we use Retrospect to backup all our work files. It's so easy these days with Firewire and USB ports and just now I recalled how much of a pain in the youknowwhat it was when you had to deal with SCSI cables, devices such as SyQuest Drives and Bernoulli Drives and MOD disks. Oy! Remember how to connect a SCSI device you had to shut down and then restart each device in a certain order and each SCSI item had to have it's own ID number set. I don't miss those days at all. You kids have it easy.

Posted on Sep 23, 2011 1:29 PM

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Sep 27, 2011 5:45 PM in response to Appaloosa mac man

Please refresh my memory. Was it the 'e' in the 512Ke that allowed it to read 800k instead of just 400k?


You are correct. It could read/write 400K single side and 800K double side floppies. Here's the specs on the 512Ke.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_classic/stats/mac_512ke.html


I remember that 800K discs were almost 2X the cost of 400K discs. But I found a computer store that sold 400Ks in bulk (50 in a box) where the opposite side was coated, but not tested/verified. They were only slightly more expensive than regular 400Ks.I never had a data problem with files copied to the back side.


 Cheers, Tom 😉

Oct 7, 2011 8:00 AM in response to rmgman

I still have some Syquest, Bernoulli and Zip drives floating around. Every now and then someone discovers a disk with data they just have to recover and they no longer own a drive and or Mac that can read it.


I hated tape backups.


Even have some oddball MO drives and media floating around, the 640MB and 1GB HP drive.


Lyon is the armpit of France.... no idea about the US but I might have thought Detroit...

Oct 8, 2011 4:16 PM in response to cigartexan

Syquest, oh yes I remember them.


They had so many different versions at the end my head was spinning about as fast as their disks.


The original 44 then 88 then 200 form factor. Then they came out with a smaller size which was 105 and 270. Then the Syjet or something like that at which point I gave up. I think it was the Syjet that was the 135MB one's that looked to be the same form factor as the 105 and 270. I think I have a drive and a box of disks that we were tossing at work in the basement. I saved them for some derranged reason though haven't even attached the drive to anything.


I guess Zip and Jazz were a bit better. I have a Cisco micro webserver in my collection that ran using a single 100MB Zip disk. Very weird concept and Cisco no less.

Oct 14, 2011 10:38 AM in response to rmgman

Does anyone who remembers what could be done with 10MB RAM, a 40MB hard disc and a snail-pace processor, get disappointed by how little progress has been made by software, considering the ~1000x increase in hardware speed and capacity? I suspect that programmers "these days" are lazy, and don't use all the streamlining tricks and hacks that were essential in the Days Gone By. Yeah, rmgman - do we really need 4.82GB (102,238 items) in the system folder?!


I used to create 3D animations on my LCII (with the aforementioned 10MB RAM and 40MB HD)...with a 12" screen in "thousands of colours" using StrataVision3D. Then I'd have to go out and lick road clean wit' tongue. Kids of today etc, etc....


I very much liked those 3.5"(ish) magneto optical 256MB (I think) discs - very cute and much less prone to the "oh my god, I've slid that lever all the way across without waiting for the SyQuest disc to spin down so I've destroyed the disc and probably the drive too" syndrome. But that 256MB drive was prone to squirting 240 Volts out of the SCSI port, which often led to some shocking results😮! I have no idea how it didn't kill the Mac it was connected to (by then I was working on a gorgeous Quadra 840AV) - it nearly killed me on at least one occasion. By about 1998ish there were so many competing drive formats around that (at work) we had a stack of various SCSI drives about 2 feet high!


It's disappointing that Apple are planning to kill of the Mac Pro line completely (in my uninformed opinion!).

Oct 17, 2011 3:46 PM in response to Appaloosa mac man

No, no, no! NJ (where I live) claims the distinct honor of being the "Armpit of America". Just look at a map of the USA. It actually seems to be in the area of an armpit.


I picked up that nickname when I lived up in Maine after college. The "Down Easters" were friendly, but often told me I was a "flatlander" and I came from the "Armpit of America".

Oct 17, 2011 4:29 PM in response to hellopaul2

hellopaul2 wrote:


Yeah, rmgman - do we really need 4.82GB (102,238 items) in the system folder?!


I very much liked those 3.5"(ish) magneto optical 256MB (I think) discs - very cute and much less prone to the "oh my god, I've slid that lever all the way across without waiting for the SyQuest disc to spin down so I've destroyed the disc and probably the drive too" syndrome. But that 256MB drive was prone to squirting 240 Volts out of the SCSI port, which often led to some shocking results😮! I have no idea how it didn't kill the Mac it was connected to (by then I was working on a gorgeous Quadra 840AV) - it nearly killed me on at least one occasion. By about 1998ish there were so many competing drive formats around that (at work) we had a stack of various SCSI drives about 2 feet high!

I believe those mini SyQuest drives were call "EZ Drives" as in "Easy" Ha! Anything but.


BTW: I still own and USE my Zip disks and drive. I like that they are for the most part reliable and rewritable. I back up important info on multiple zip disks and have some friends hold on to them, just in case anything ever happened to my home (heaven forbid!).

Oct 18, 2011 5:20 AM in response to hellopaul2

Yes I remember those days as well. My first new Mac as an LC with the 12" colour monitor followed by a Classic.


We used the Classic to run a BBS software called FirstClass back in the early 90's, it started out with two 2400 baud modems allowing two people to access the thing at the same time. There was no 'cheap' internet back then. A couple of years later I did a major upgrade to a IIsi with a 4 port hurdler card with 4 phone lines. By now I was a really good customer of the phone company.


Around then I was able to get a dedicated network connection at a friends internet hosting company so that setup was swapped over to a Macintosh II and everything was done via their network.

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