10 Replies Latest reply: Sep 27, 2011 5:34 PM by qqtime
qqtime Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hello,

 

with the iPhone 5 just around the corner I was thinking I could take advantage of the guaranteed sell-off rush to purchase a used iPhone 4 in a few weeks. The thing is, I don't want to use the phone, I'll just be using it as a touch. I read this article (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3406) which says that I can do it, but it mentions requiring the original SIM card. But what if I don't have the original SIM card, or any SIM card for that matter? Am I out of luck?

 

Thanks

  • AdamKB Level 2 Level 2 (330 points)

    You're going to have to find a SIM card one way or another. You can always borrow one from someone.

  • qqtime Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the response Adam. So you're saying that any SIM will do? Even if it's for a network that doesn't work on the iPhone? Or does it have to be a SIM for an iPhone compatible carrier?

     

    Also, is there a way on the iPhone to completely disable the 3G? I would only be using the WiFi.

  • TheOn3LeftBehind Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    If you purchase a CDMA iPhone 4, you will not need a SIM card as Verizon does not use SIM cards, but it will need to be activated month-to-month.  Any SIM card from AT&T will do for a GSM iPhone 4.  You can go on eBay and find some that are extremely cheap.  You can use a T-Mobile (not 3G compatible) SIM card, but some SIM card manipulation will have to be done in order for it to work.

     

    You can disable cellular data and 3G in Settings-->General-->Network or you could just put it into Airplane Mode and turn on WiFi.

  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (16,780 points)
    If you purchase a CDMA iPhone 4, you will not need a SIM card as Verizon does not use SIM cards, but it will need to be activated month-to-month. 

    Verizon does not offer month-to-month plans for the iPhone.  The only way to purchase one from them is with a 2 year contract.

  • qqtime Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the help. I actually live in Canada, so none of these carriers would be an option for me. Hmm... it sounds quite complicated. I thought it'd be far simpler.

  • TheOn3LeftBehind Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    I'm not saying they have a month-to-month plan.  It says it on their website AND it says you can purchase it at full retail price.  So yes, you can buy a no-contract phone from Verizon.

     

    http://support.vzw.com/faqs/iphone/iphone_faq.html

  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (16,780 points)

    Considering that there are no used Verizon CDMA that have expired contracts as yet and their "full price" is $750 + at least 1 month plan to activate (>$800 total), that route doesn't make sense for a carrier free phone. 

     

    Also, it's not clear that the CDMA model can be activated without  connection to a carrer.  With the GSM models, you need a SIM, currently or previosuly activated for an iPhone to activate the phone, then remove the SIM.  With the CDMA, there's no SIM to remove (or any equivalent setting) in order to disconnect from the carrier.  The Apple support article doesn't mention using a CDMA model for this purpose.

  • TheOn3LeftBehind Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Actually, many people have taken the "I'm going to get an iPhone then cancel my Verizon contract" route, which is how you would get a used Verizon iPhone 4.  There are ways to get around having to activate an iPhone. 

     

    Now onto relevant information for the original poster.  Since you are in Canada, you can go onto eBay and search for an iPhone SIM card (micro SIM; this is also considered a "dummy SIM") or, as AdamKB has said, you can borrow a SIM card from someone else, which is your best option.  You can simply ask to borrow someone's SIM card, activate the phone, then take it out.

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (42,705 points)

    qqtime wrote:

     

    Hello,

     

    with the iPhone 5 just around the corner I was thinking I could take advantage of the guaranteed sell-off rush to purchase a used iPhone 4 in a few weeks. The thing is, I don't want to use the phone, I'll just be using it as a touch...

    This makes no sense. Why not just save yourself some money and buy an iPod touch? It's about half the price of an iPhone and if you're not going to use it as a phone... just sayin...

  • qqtime Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you all for the help, it's much appreciated.

     

    @KiltedTim: it's a good suggestion. I had thought of it and would consider it but I want the iPhone 4's digital camera. I heard the camera on the touch isn't nearly as good. Perhaps if the next touch inherits the iphone 4 camera I may go that route.