Will the iPhone 4 support the new Siri integration?

It is surprising what we don't know about our iPhones and devices. I just found out about it recently too. 🙂

Siri worked perfectly on my iPhone 4 before Apple decided to cut it off so they could sell the 4S in October. I bought my 4 in November 2010, it’s still in good shape and working fine so I see no need to buy the 4S just to get Siri and an upgraded camera, that’s just absurd. I say this because in 2012 Apple will release the 5 and then I’ll still be in an older model and 2 years to go on my contract before an upgrade. I don’t want to jailbreak my phone and go through all that just for Siri, even though the untethered jailbreak has been released, it’s just a pain and it voids the warranty. We paid a lot for our iPhones and we should not have to go extremes simply to get one app that we already had.

I understand Apple’s marketing ploy with the 4S and Siri, they had nothing else to promote it with, look at all the commercials, it’s all Siri. What makes me angry is that they should not have given Siri to all 4 users and earlier models and then taken it away to promote 4S, that to me is extremely poor allegiance to their loyal consumers.

Apple needs to do the right thing here and release Siri to all models and make their customers happy. Christmas is over, the 4S will soon be replaced by the 5. However, in my opinion, even if they release Siri, most users who actually follow Apple and their products will still have a bad taste in their mouth from this whole issue, I know I will.

Iphone 5 probably wont be out until 2013, siri will be added to iphOne 4 later this year, and there is no way to use siri with jailbreak, u need a valid iphone 4s serial number to connect to the siri servers.

Last week one of the DEV team had it running on a 4 and he stated that with the IOS 5 update you do not need the 4S ID any longer because Apple opened a port to the Siri servers but how long it will remain open no one knows. It is possible unless all of the hacker videos on YT are phoney.

All The vids ive seen specifically say u need a 4s id token for it to work. Which is more effort than its worth to get a half working siri app running onto of a shody jailbroken os. Or all jailbroken iphone 4's will get one port we will all have fight over for service bandwidth:S. Be patient and Apple will release siri properly once the infrastructure is ready not to mention languages finished. Note it only works with english french and german right now and the siri servers can barely support the current iphone 4s load. It isnt just marketing ploys keeping us from siri.

To be honest my friends I gave up with apple , all they are concern are selling their products, I'm was a big fan of apple and owns most of their products but with Iphone was very dissapointed and now I'm waiting for a better phone that would impress me and go with the flow with technology... Everyone in this world is coming so money-minded that customer service doesn't matter any more...

Hang in there bud

tl485, how you are so sure that Apple will release Siri to iPhone4 users soon?

It may happen anyway, but the point is that iPhone 4 users are at a LIMBO right now. There is no clear roadmap for Sire to come to iPhone 4 and I am pretty sure that there is a very good reason for that, as others have wisely mentioned at this thread: to maximize iPhone 4S sales because of the lack of hardware features.

Remember that Siri was at the App Store as a cheap app, so that "server load limit" argument is very weak.

I bought an Android for my girlfriend and I'am really enjoying to use it from time to time.

To be locked to an ecossystem that does not respect Fair Play ***** (see my "fair play" deffinition at a previous post). So I even already made a fase out plan: I will use most of the apps I already own with my iPad2 and then I will start to invest in Android apps.

Be quick Apple, because my love is fading away. Really.

Apple has EXPLICITLY stated that there are NO PLANS to bring SIRI to the iPhone 4 or 3GS. WHY is this even still a discussion? Apple has spoken. You can't have it. Get over it.

The discussion and the free speech is allways helthy. There is not a surprise that the first steps to a dictatorship is to try to silent discussions.

So, first of all: the fact that Apple said it has NO PLANS does NOT MEAN that I WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Second, the fact that there are tons of users that are complaining about it here and everywhere means that Apple should at least consider the matter and show their reasons if they decide not to make it available to everyone.

Third, we are not fools. We have gave our credit to be tied and invest on this ecosystem and now they are playing hard ball, locking up an old App that was available to everyone, polishing it a little bit and making you feel compeled to buy a new phone just because of a software feature.

I won't be silent at all. And I think other wont. I don't mind if you give up though.

You can whine all you want. It won't change reality.

myktux wrote:

locking up an old App that was available to everyone, polishing it a little bit and making you feel compeled to buy a new phone just because of a software feature.

By "polishing it a little bit" you are referring to the setting up and maintenance of a server farm and infrastructure that has been created to service the use of Siri by many tens of millions of users worldwide?

What about IRIS for Android by Dexetra?

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dexetra.iris&hl=en

It is being used by millions of users and so far it is a FREE APP.

As Siri is not a transactional app at the server side, it can scale as far as you want. It is just a matter of sizing. There is no reasonable technical reason not to open it to the rest of the custumer base. See other posts about it at this thread.

As you can see in my previous post, I am willing to pay for the service. BUT I WILL NOT DO A HARDWARE UPGRADE FOR A SOFTWARE/SERVICE NEED. Never. That is a line I will never cross.

myktux wrote:

What about IRIS for Android by Dexetra?

BUT I WILL NOT DO A HARDWARE UPGRADE FOR A SOFTWARE/SERVICE NEED. Never. That is a line I will never cross.

I guess then you will not buy an android phone then?

That is essentially upgrading your hardware.

As Siri is not a transactional app at the server side, it can scale as far as you want. It is just a matter of sizing. There is no reasonable technical reason not to open it to the rest of the custumer base.

Others can argue what they want; Siri does do all its computations of speach server end so I would doubt it can just cheaply scale up to ALL iphone users.

But in the end no-one here knows, we are all speculating on issues we actually have no real knowledge on.

As has been said way too many times; Siri is Beta, it is not released fully yet.

Just wait till it is finished, and then we'll see if it will go on the iPhone 4.

You don't have iOS 5.1 Beta 2 either; this has many updated features and fixes, but you will just have to wait for that too.

You can ask Apple to make Siri available for the iPhone4 here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

Complaining in a user forum will get you no where.

I can see how much you want Siri, but it's not worth getting worked up over.

It's unfinished and has many flaws.

Be patient.

Appreciate the irony. This thread has many people complaining they can't get Siri, and several other threads have people who DO have Siri complaining how lousy it is 🙂