Where are those MIBs?

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Where are those MIBs?

In various documentation Apple mentions about SNMP:

SNMP: Implemented in Mac OS X Server, SNMP stack allows Xserve G5 monitoring by standard SNMP management consoles. In addition to the standard SNMP MIBs, Mac OS X Server provides MIBs for its core services. Xserve G5 also provides hardware MIBs for key values. SNMP support is currently read-only.

But where to find those MIBs?
I've looked on XServe G4 and G5 disks for the said hardware MIBs. Does anyone know?

By the way: Servermonitor doesn't speak snmp.

Regards

Ralf K.

PowerBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.2)

Posted on Jan 26, 2006 12:23 PM

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Answer 1

Jan 26, 2006 6:31 PM in response to loetmann

Ummm...

Ever tried something like 'locate MIB' from the command line? The locate database will tell you where they are.

They are in /usr/share/snmp/mibs.

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Answer 2

Feb 1, 2006 9:40 AM in response to loetmann

That info is wrong. Apple doesn't have any robust MIBs for OS X or the Xserve, other than some generic stuff from the net-snmp project. Yes, the Apple Developer site talks about the MIBS, but they do NOT exist.

How do I know? I called and opened a support tickeet on this topic, and after weeks of confused responses from Apple's support and engineering staff I gave up and closed the ticket and demanded my money back. They basically concluded that there aren't any custom MIBs available (and tried to charge me $500 for the support call!). I complained about the misinformation posted on their Dev site and I was totally ignored (or nobody cared-big surprise). The snmp (mis)information is STILL on the Apple Dev site to this day. Makes we shake my head in disbelief.

They offered to put in a "feature request" for me to add full-featured snmp support in the future(!). Thanks, Apple. Yes, snmp support would be a good thing if you ever want to to take the Enterprise market serious. Can you beleive they brag about the Xserve's power, price and features, but never bothered to build a few basic I/O MIBS for the Xserve? When I bought my first 5 Xserves, I just assumed they would have a least SOME basic Apple-designed MIBS for the Xserve. Nope.

iPod MIBS? Now thats another story...:0)

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Answer 3

loetmann Author

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Feb 7, 2006 3:48 AM in response to loetmann

Thanks, William and Daniel!

Sorry, to be so late with my reply

William, as I said in my posting, I searchged for MIBS on the machines. But I look ed for those pomised hardware specific ones.

Daniel, I awaited something like this.

In the meantime, I had a close look into the Server Monitor conversations with my machine. It´s much like a webservice. You can test it with your browser on port 311 ( https://your.xserve.tld:311). It's pretty artistic and obviously Server Monitor only uses a subset of the given information, since you talk to srvrmgd which also serves Server Admin.App.

In my opinion it would be a snap for Apple engineers to implement a snmp agent and trap-source beside this XML-RPC/Web-GUI thing.

What about a blog exposing the tons of open ends in Apples (Enterprise) plattform mainly OS X Server?

Regards,

Ralf

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