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in state of crisis viz a viz Eudora and Lion, please help

I have been using Eudora 4-ever, and depend on it completely. It came as a SHOCK after I bought a new MacBook Air with Lion to find out that I cannot run Eudora on it. I have had my Air for a month now without using it yet because I don't know what to do. As I see it my options are:


1) Try to zap Lion and put Snow Leopard on the Air. But I understand this may not work, although it might be my first choice.


2) Get Mailforge or Eudora OSE to replace my Eudora, but in checking out reviews nobody seems very happy with them.


3) Migrate to the Lion version of Apple Mail. This sounds like it might be ok, EXCEPT, many people note connection issues with their ISPs, and say that Apple Mail is much slower than the others to send and receive mail from their ISPs. Because I spend half of my time traveling for work in Third World countries with s-l-o-w internet connections, I wonder if Apple Mail will drive me nuts with dropped connections, no connection at all, or very very slow operations.


WHAT SHOULD I DO? I need advice. I am even thinking of returning my Air and forgetting about the whole thing.


Experiences and advice will be appreciated.

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7.1)

Posted on Oct 12, 2011 8:10 AM

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May 3, 2012 9:09 AM in response to Jeffrey Jones2

I'm trying to learn the Apple Mail program, to make sure I can do what I'm used to doing in Eudora. Here's one thing that has me stumped already: in Eudora, I can search all my emails for a specific word. Let's say I want to search for the word "thing" and don't want to find every incidence of "nothing" "something" etc. Is there some way to do that in Apple Mail? If so, I have not yet figured it out. If it's not possible, it's a good example of something very important that I use daily that I don't want to abandon.

May 19, 2012 6:49 AM in response to PeterR

PeterR wrote:


"loses" messages all the time, I find myself searching for them multiple times every day by keyword because I can't them any other way.


You can force Mail to re-index all your messages by deleting the following "Envelope Index" file in your user Library: You Can rename the file or drag to the desktop if you need to put it back for some odd reason.


~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Envelope Index


Quit Mail and relaunch.


As always back up your data first. See if this help s your problem.


http://support.apple.com/kb/PH4801

Jun 3, 2012 10:41 PM in response to leroydouglas

I've held off upgrading to Lion because I use Eudora and have for years

I've been playing with Gyazmail for a few months. To my way of thinking it is fast and a very close replacement to Eudora. The setup is very similar and familiar. It's not Eudora but it is pretty good worth a look

Hope this helps. I cannot understand why Qualcom didn't upgrade Eudora it was such a popular program

Sep 11, 2012 11:23 AM in response to WYORK

Actually, I just bought a new iMac with Mountain Lion and was able to move my Windows VMs from Leopard Parallels v3 to Mountain Lion Parallels v7.


So, I am still using Eudora on a Windows 2000 VM via Parallels as my primary email client (and more importantly, my email history archive going all the way back to July 1996 when I was using Eudora on Windows 95.)

Sep 11, 2012 1:18 PM in response to polyglotinc

Thanks. One of the main reasons I use Eudora is that I can edit messages in my In Box. This is the only e-mail client I know of that I can do this. Do you know of another?


Since I upgraded to Snow Leopard from Leopard I've had occasional problems when trying to delete messages. I get an error message and have to try a second to third time before the message deletes. Have you had this problem?


I've been using Eudora as my only client since the 1990s (version 3.0) and have few complaints with it.

Sep 24, 2012 1:58 AM in response to PeterR

Sorry to reply with an unhelpful post, but the fact is, since losing Eudora I have tried literally, not figuratively but literally, every single email client available for OS X—in an hour of Googling I can't find one I haven't tried—and none of them are a decent replacement. Every single one of them has some serious bug or dealkiller missing feature that makes it unusable as my sole mail client. I've just accepted it at this point, there is no good email client for Mac. It's not 2004 anymore.


As Apple continues to clamp down on competition and third-party development on the Mac platform, we can expect this sort of trend to continue.

Oct 3, 2012 12:24 PM in response to Mike K

IMHO there is nothing as sophisticated as Eudora.


I can correct all the useless subject lines that people use into something meaningful, make notes within the message and set up multiple processing functions for incoming mail.


I don’t need to tell you guys all of this…


Could any of you imagine installing a Windows version of Eudora by using i.e. Parallels, which I do? I use Eudora 6.2 running under Windows 2000 with Parallels. I have not looked, but I guess that you could export your Mac Eudora setup and import it into Windows Eudora.


Just a thought, because I know what you must be going through… I would be in the same boat if I didn’t have my set-up.


I hope it might help someone!

Nov 1, 2012 7:04 AM in response to WYORK

Yep, had that same issue with Eudora. I'm running it with Snow Leopard. Every now and then, for unknown reasons, the deletion of e-mails will not work. I simply quit and restart -- and everything is fine again.


It only happens every week or two--so it's no big deal and well worth it to keep using Eudora.


The ability to edit the titles of messages is an incredibly valuable feature--they don't even have to be in the In Box, you can retitle them, or add info to the titles of any message anywhere in any mail box. I often get e-mails that are replies to old e-mails on different topics, or get e-mails that have blank subject lines, so this ability is priceless!


Hmm... I was considering upgrading to Mountain Lion, but the thought of losing Eudora and its amazing set of features is a bit disconeerting.

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