Q: Delete single photos in photostream

Good explanation, Tunderhill.  I like it.  But I don't think it's that people confuse photostream with an album.  The problem is with the way that photostream intervenes in our ability to manage our albums. 

iCloud works great for contacts, calendars, and apps.  I love it.  It limits file manageability in Pages and iPhoto -- it adds intervening steps and is too restrictive in some ways. It needs to duplicate or mirror my file management to be really useful without adding intervening steps.  Instead, it removes the ability to manage files until the file is exported.  For that reason, I suspect, my Pages files duplicate/update in iCloud and my iPad but not on my Mac. That's unwieldy if you have hundreds or thousands of files that follow any kind of organization at all, which most people do. 

The problem is its ******$$,  it's totally useless hence they are in the process of fixing it. It's like saying they built Skodas as rubbish as they were so everyone else could build engines and gearboxes to plug into it and make it work

LOVE the fan boys and this thread s seriously funny :-)

It works fine with no plugs. Apple uses iCloud for syncing basic functions of its own apps. Apple creates platforms. iOS osx iCloud are all platforms for others to innovate on top of what apple created. They don't want to debate on whether angry birds or temple run is more popular. They don't want to compete with Dropbox or box. They say we have the system. We have the user base. You guys fight it out for who has the best storage service or airline reservation app. We will take 30% of the revenue of whoever wins. They create the sandbox and they put in a shovel but if you want a bulldozer then you need to build one because we don't know what kind of bulldozer you want. So let the best and brightest minds out there create their own versions and then you as the customer have choices to make it the best experience possible. The biggest proble, that I think most people have here is that the first wave of iCloud compatible apps has not come out yet. This will all be a moot point. It's like getting an iPhone where there are no apps yet and being forced to use apples weather app. Some people may like it and some don't but you don't have the ability yet to get weather channel or weather hd. It's an infant. Give it time.

They don't want to compete with Dropbox? Thats why they tried to buy them nd DB told them where to go then?

Just because you write essays will not change anything PS is garbage ....

Thanks Chap.  That was a really beneficial post.   Have a nice day.

From the first sentence on: http://www.apple.com/icloud/

"This is the cloud the way it should be: automatic and effortless. iCloud is seamlessly integrated into your apps, so you can access your content on all your devices."

I am still hopeful....

Interesting thread...

JJR has every right to be frustrated when Photostream won't allow users to delete a single photo. At least not yet.  I am sure Apple is working on it. 

I must thank Tunderhill for taking all the time to explain what the Apple Marketing department tried not to tell us.  For those of us who relied on the www.apple.com/icloud web page to determine if Photostream is a good thing, we now know much better.  Photostream is not the improved replacement for MobileMe Gallery which Apple will take away.  iCloud is for App Developers.  Anyone who rushed out last Christmas to buy new iMac / MBP, bite your knees. 

Until recently, Apple was more a toy than a corporate data processing system.  Photographers like Apple because of the beautiful monitors and Photoshop.  But Apple is a hardware manufactures not too deeply into consumer software development.  iPhoto, Garageband, iMovies are all great toys that do one little thing at a time, barely.  When we play with one toy, we always find its limitations quickly and then find another toy to supplement it.  Pulling music only out of a Karaoke disc is fun with Apple: MVCD / Handbreak / Quick Time / Sound Booth / iMovie... no way a PC can go through all these without a glitch!  I love my Apple toy.

With more kids graduating from schools that used Macs, and as they became supervisors, managers, Mac is slowly moving into the office world. And Apple is very happy to talk so the people in this market share will consider Apple.

Unfortunately, in this case, photostream was promoted to be a big part of iCloud.  We bought the idea, bait, hook, and sinker.  Then, one by one, we begin to turn Photostream off.  It is a great toy for the 5 year old running around with the ipad in camera mode.  For the rest of us, there is no right or wrong, there are only lessons to learn.

Let us learn that next time, when Apple tells us something, we should read what they did not tell us instead of getting too excited about what they said in politically correct words.  Their marketing people did a great job.  We are just sold. Having trusted Apple since the Apple IIe, the first unfortunate thing that happened to us after Steve left was: Can we still trust Apple to be reliable, up front, one small step at a time?  (That was what we pay the extra dollars for, wasn't it?)

I think I mentioned this before, but all of my longtime Mac user friends told me never to buy v.1 of anything that Apple put out.  Wait for at least v.2 when they've worked out the kinks.

I won't give up on Apple.  I am confident the new CEO will prove himself worthy of his pay.  The stock value is too high to risk it.  We all know that Apple without Steve will grow to a business solution instead of staying as a toy store.  Then they will be conulting professional photographers to help with iphoto and photostream; bring back retired employees to coach the young creative programmers; Lion will downstream control to apps so it can run faster, focus better and a lot more reliably; etc. etc.  Tomorrow will be better. Give the poor guy time. 

Hold your cameras, horses, and your patience. iOS 5.1 (not yet released) will have the ability to DELETE individual photos from your iphoto Stream. Should be out an the end of march (a guess). In the meantiem take your pictures and either turn offf iCloud for now or from the iCloud Stream  save and edit your pictures in iPhoto.

Not the end of the world folks!

Fingers crossed it does get fixed soon. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall

in the meeting it was decided to cripple PS without any editing abilities.

Also would love to hear the argument in favor of no deletions...I could really use a good laugh lately.

Carl

Irritating that when it comes to the deletion of photostream photos, it's all or nothing. I opted for all. Most of the photos on Photostream are still on my camera roll anyhow. Meh. =/

Thats well and good, but the other part of it was:

"The only exception will be photos taken on pre-iOS 5.1 firmware: you can still delete these, but you’ll have to manually remove them from each device."

This means that all of your other devices will need some attention if you want to stay organized. Since the feature isnt retroactive to the previous images taken, I see no other choice than turning it off until 5.1 is here.

Now they just need to fix Contacts, (so they dont delete them from your default Outlook folder and MOVE them all to your iCloud Contacts) This makes clicking the To box in emails to select from your address book and extra step each and every email sent.

Fix mail so it doesnt shut down 75% of the time when I open it.We call that Auto-Close at work. "Hey Tom, is auto-close working on your iPhone??"

"Hold on, let me check <opens mail, then immediately crashes> Yep, its working great!!"

I like how most of it work, I really do. Calendars is the greatest part of my work day, scheduling appts and meetings is a snap and updates to all my other devices including my MS Outlook without effort. Im disappointed in their decline in polished software and experience. This is the reason for the premium price and with rough edges and hastily created software patches, they are starting to resemble something different than a polished and premium experience

It is so silly to not be able to delete individually from photostream cuz not only do I have blurry pics in photostream but I also have screen caps and other temporary photos mixed in with regular pics.  but I don't want to delete the good ones so I guess I have to keep the useless ones along with the good ones.  To the apple iphone genius fixer uppers, this really does need to be be fixed....thx in advance!  d[^o^]b.

I understand how you feel but I think many of us are still confusing the difference between a storage device and a distribution device.  Photostream is a tool for distributing photos (and whatever). 

Photostream is a great toy.  You take a picture with your iPhone (ok, ipad, ipod whatever), call your mom, "Hi mom, watch TV now."  Oh... Wow... yap, yap, yap, happy mother, happy daughter...

Delete all.

Next time, take a picture with your i.....

Hug.

You want to keep something selectively up in the cloud, Dropbox it.  Really.  It's so good.  My wife sang a song, 30 minutes long.  She streamed it with Dropbox all the way to London.  It's a different tool  (OK, toy).