Currently Being ModeratedOct 16, 2011 9:03 PM (in response to RezX)
Omni group on ther blog explained why the feature was removed from the 3GS.
"We were pretty excited by some of the changes Apple made in their recent hardware, though; they found a way to improve the accuracy of location monitoring without using more power. Specifically, the iPhone 4 (and 4S) include a feature called “region monitoring”, which lets them track the devices’ location via GPS without running down the battery. iPad 2 models with 3G also have this capability. Unfortunately, devices released before then don’t have a low-power way to monitor their location as accurately, so they won’t be able to use this type of reminder in OmniFocus. (The Reminders app included in iOS 5 has the same limitation.)"
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 1:08 PM (in response to RezX)
If Apple had time to put this in the change notes, they had more than enough time to change or footnote their website.
This is classic puffery, if not bait-and-switch. Anyone who goes out and buys or signs up to get an iPhone 3GS has been hoodwinked.
I on the other hand, just encouraged a 3GS owner to update to iOS5, because of location based reminders. We together wastedover an hour to install and recover from installation, and another 45 minutes trying to figure out why reminders weren't working.
Bottom line. Apple handled this badly. What else that was advertised in iOS5 that doesn't actually work on a 3GS?
I hope Tim Cook inherited the reality distortion field generator. He's going to need it.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 1:33 PM (in response to riffraf)
I see nothing about the iPhone 3G or 3Gs, every image and reference is for the iPhone 4 and 4s.
I think the issue here is that people made the assumption that it would be for all devices, and it's not.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 3:09 PM (in response to mihsunnyside)
Right. But there is also no mention that *all* features are supported on the 3Gs. My point was there isnt a single 3Gs or 3G phone shown here, just the iPhone 4, 4s, iPod Touch and iPads.
I think everyones expectations are based on assumptions. Im not saying those assumptions are wrong to have, but they've proven to be innacurate as assumptions usually are.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 3:59 PM (in response to RezX)
Listen, I'm a fanboy too, but I'm pretty sure that if you go back through Apple comunications in general, when they say "iPhone" they have een referring to all iOS supported iPhones and when they have meant iPhone 4 and not all iPhones on the same iOS, they've said so. Check out all the hooha about Facetime.
This was an oversight or a manipulation by Apple.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 4:03 PM (in response to RezX)
Saying that iOS5 is compatible with 3Gs without a disclaimer or footnote, implies that is fully compatible. I agree that is an assumption but I sustain that is the correct assumption.
Having updated a 3Gs yesterday (did you guess?) and wasting hours and hours in trying to figure out why some features work and why others don't, I've been reading a lot and noticed that is no particular set of problems for any iphone model. It would be more correct to say that some 4 owners are more likely to experience "x" problem and the 3Gs owners more likely to experience "y" set of problems. It seems to be pretty random and I'm sorry if I expected Apple to not release an update that is so messed up, that was indeed an assumption
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 5:00 AM (in response to Sisco28)
I'm guessing it's because Reminders.app rinces the battery on my 4 when location-based reminders are on so the 3GS's battery would most like be drained within a few hours leaving users with a sub standard experience. Would have been good of Apple to point this out though if indeed it is true.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 7:25 AM (in response to _11220_)
I understand their reasoning, and, had they offered it, would have accepted and understood. Instead, I wasted hours trying to figure out what went wrong when, in fact, nothing had.
Now, as I explore all the rest of iOS5, if or when something else fails to function, am I to assume that Apple just left it out of the 3GS functionality, or that there is a problem?
And THAT is the problem.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 8:09 AM (in response to Ryner99)
I agree with ryner99... Why can we not use addresses that are not in our address book? Dropping a pin on a map seems like the best solution. I think they missed the boat on this app. So like ryner says, we have to add the grocery store or any other store we go to to our address book? Seems pretty dumb. Hopefully apple takes note and updates this feature. Until then, I probably won't use it.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2011 4:29 PM (in response to J.R.iStuff)
I'd say maybe because it requires that the address you specifiy is in your Contacts, and maybe you don't have Home/Work defined in the contact you specified as "My Info"? I'm not really sure. Mine doesn't pull up Contacts straightaway. It lists for me Current Location, Work, and Home, and it doesn't pull up Contacts until I select "Choose Address..."