Wow, iConfused, and iNotAlone!
Been looking forward to ios 5 for some time, but now it looks fairly useless.
4 in the family, one apple Id across three phones, one iPad and iPod touch. How do we use iMessage? How do we push common pictures and songs, yet have separate calendars, contacts, email and messages??
Right there with you. So confused right now about what to do with imessage, find my friends, icloud, etc. with mutiple people using the same apple id.
imessage uses either ur apple id (email address) or ur phone number. Since you guys are sharing an email account it won't work properly. In fact if someone messages that account (using the email address), all of you will get it.
I think you have two options. Either create a bunch of new apple ID's (you don't need to use these for the app store etc, just for imessages). Then go to settings->messages->receive at and remove the email address there and input the new address you have created). This way, only for imessages, you guys will be using your own unique account.
The second option is to remove the email address under messages completely and just use the phone number.
By the way, you can't use 1 apple id for icloud unless you want all phones, ipads etc to have the same email, same calender, same contacts etc. I'm assuming the reason you share one apple ID is because you have bought apps using one account (i've done same thing with between myself and gf). What you can do is again create a bunch of new icloud accounts, and use these accounts on the other devices. You can STILL use one single apple id only for the apps store portion (i.e. you go to settings->store and use the shared appleID, but under settings->iCloud use the new individual accounts I have just told you to create). This way each person in your family will have their own email, own calendar (which you can allow others to view/share), own contacts etc, but you will all be sharing a single apple ID for teh APP STORE portion only.
Just to break things down further. Let's say your shared Apple ID is brian@gmail.com
Let's also say you have an iphone, and 3 other devices (iphone 2, 3, 4).
On all 4 devices you go to settings->store and enter brian@gmail.com. When you use the app store you will use brian@gmail.com).
Now create 4 icloud accounts (if using a mac update to 10.7.2 and it should prompt you to create one. On iphone go to settings->icloud and create them there on each device). Lets call these icloud1@me.com, icloud2@me.com, etc
Now you will go on your phone, under settings->icloud enter icloud1@me.com.
on the second iphone (iphone2) go to settings->icloud and enter icloud2@me.com,
etc.
Now you will have individual iclouds on each device, but share a single appleid for the APP STORE portion.
Brian Findlay wrote:
Wow, iConfused, and iNotAlone!
Been looking forward to ios 5 for some time, but now it looks fairly useless.
4 in the family, one apple Id across three phones, one iPad and iPod touch. How do we use iMessage? How do we push common pictures and songs, yet have separate calendars, contacts, email and messages??
iCloud is meant to be used on ONE person's devices, to sync them all across the household - but with only ONE Apple-ID.
Say ipod uses abc@xx.com and iphone the same but then there is a ipad that uses 123@xx.com.
The ipod and iphone would be able to share their data but the ipad not.
Got it. A big problem I see with this is that we share the iPad in our house. iPads need multiple logins like the Mac now.
Following up, how can you share a Calendar across multiple iCloud accounts so that everyone can see and edit it? Also the photostream if wanted as well?
how it will work with the Photostream? how to use "Find my iPhone" ?
For sharing iCal calendars from multiple iCloud accounts...
This one is easy and you have two options:
1) Share the relevant calendars from within iCal on the Mac. Use the email address of the recipient iCloud users with whom you wish to share.
2) Add the additional iCloud account to your iCal on the Mac. So you are now browsing two iCal calendars. This options seems to be limited to Mac users though.
For iPad and iPhone, I think option one is the better. Also, option 2 requires the other iCloud user to share their account details which may not be appropriate.
That is not Correct. iMessage uses your Apple ID email address by default, BUT it will acept other email address' subsequently, once you have enter another email address you can delete the address associated with you apple ID and have messages onle come to your iPhone or iPad and not others on your Apple ID
I've been going CRAZY over this because I have the same problem and everything on my husbands iPhone 4 and my iPhone 4 are now merged and the contacts have single name now but two of the same phone numbers. I have lost all my pictures and his pictures as well.
So I went to the apple store and the genius guy told me that for me to keep th contacts and other stuff separated, I would have to create a new iTunes account for my husband. He did not want to do that because we already have one that we both use. The genius guy did not say that I can create another iCloud account. So now... Just to clarify what you said... Do I create a new iCloud account for him and new account for me? Or can I leave it the same as the iTunes account on my phone and just create a new one for him? The iCloud account that is on both iPhones are the same ID as the apple iTunes account. You said that the apple iTunes account are only for things that are purchased on the app store.. but my husband has different apps on his phone .. Are these kept separate by creating new iCloud account?
I'm so confused.. I figured turning off iCloud on his phone would do the trick.
Why is this so difficult than it should be? Something that is seamlessly done shouldn't be confusing!
Please reply. Thank you.
I found that,
When you are using an apple id's Email in your Caller ID in many iphones or ipads, all of them will receive the same incoming message, and the Notifications will show on.
If you are using another Email, then only the Email which used to sent will receive the message.
Everything is reasonably seperable. You can make an iCloud account for each iDevice, there by not mixing two owner/devices together. devices you want to sink together should be on the same iCloud account/ID and you can still keep any and all devices on the same iTunes account so thet you can buy one song, app, book, etc. and use it on all iDevices.
My wife and I:
If you need more explanation let me know
If we are synical about this. Apple may have planned this event / catastropy to have people creating more iTunes accounts. However the opposite is happening and they are being bombarded with more icloud accounts than they wanted requiring double / triple the storage space and syncing bandwidth. Resulting in this system slow down yesterday and today.
Is this a MicroSoft or an Apple product? A family needs to keep an excel file of its icloud and itunes IDs and manage them? Are you kidding me???? When the devices already have unique IDs that itunes uses to synch them? Why did something that was easy in itunes become impossible in icloud? Personally, I did not use mobile.me and i have stopped using icloud, after spending a couple of days and too many wasted hours on this.
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Ok... I understand now that I look at the chart but when I looked at the imessage/facetime part, I am confused about that. Facetime is video chatting, what is there to sync about this? lol Also... now that I know imessage/facetime is part of icloud after you mentioned it.... I thought you can only create one icloud account for all these features?
Also...how the **** do I sync notes with icloud? Why the **** are they asking me to create a @me.com account just for this? They better fix this and update it. That is stupid and this is getting more and more confusing.
grayalne wrote:
Everything is reasonably seperable. You can make an iCloud account for each iDevice, there by not mixing two owner/devices together. devices you want to sink together should be on the same iCloud account/ID and you can still keep any and all devices on the same iTunes account so thet you can buy one song, app, book, etc. and use it on all iDevices.
My wife and I:
My Wife iPhone iPad iPhone iPad iTunes Example@itunes.com Example@itunes.com Example@itunes.com Example@itunes.com iCloud 123Example@icloud.com 123Example@icloud.com ABCExample@icloud.com ABCExample@icloud.com iMessage/Facetime iPhone@myemail.com iPad@myemail.com iPhone@HERemail.com iPad@HERemail.com
If you need more explanation let me know
iMessage, iCloud between multiple family devices, with a single apple I'd?
