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NeddySeagoon Level 1 (5 points)



What iCloud services are not available to Leopard users?


I know Photo Stream needs Lion and iPhoto '11.


What about @me Mail? Does it need Lion to sync with my Mac and iPhone.


I want to migrate my MobileMe to iCloud so I can set up iCloud on my iPhone.


It is going to be a few weeks before I can buy Snow Leopard AND Lion AND iLife '11 AND iWork '11 plus they'll all have to be Family Packs.



  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    As far as I can tell, none will work in Leopard.

  • NeddySeagoon Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks, BD. :)

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    Turns out I could use a couple in Safari, Contacts, & Calendars, maybe Mail if I had a .me account, but using those things in a Browser just isn't my cup of tea

  • NeddySeagoon Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks BD.

  • The Thoroughbred Level 1 (5 points)

    Sorry to bring this up again, but I think my question could be related. I am using Leopard 10.5.8 on an ibook g4. And had MobileMe working well. As I understand MobileMe is being fazed out and iCloud isn't fully compatible with Leopard. At the moment I have calendars synced, I want my To Do's synced to my iPhone 3GS, which has been updated to ios5. How do I do this?


    Does to do syncing only work through iCloud?

    Does MobileMe specifically not support to do syncing?

    Can I migrate over to iCloud? If so, which MobileMe functionality will I lose?

    And if I don't like it, can I migrate back to MobileMe before it is fazed out?


    Thanks in advance, any help or information will be much appreciated.

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    Hi, no syncing available as far as I can tell in 10.5.8, looks like you can view some of those things in 10.5.8 though. Syncing will be all iCloud.

  • NeddySeagoon Level 1 (5 points)

    If iCloud can't sync with Mail on the Mac, does the mail on an iPhone get adversely affected?

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    I wouldn't think so at all, and even from 10.4.11 I can see all the WebMail, & even send from the Web interface in iCloud, which I'd think would sync to the iPhone

  • NeddySeagoon Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks, BD.

  • WilsonLaidlaw Level 1 (0 points)

    If this info is correct it is a major issue for us. Our servers are Powermacs, which have years of life left in them. They are running 10.5.8 and as Power PC processors, obviously cannot run Slow Leopard or Lion. If we cannot sync calendars and address books we will have to replace them. Thanks a bunch Apple. I thought Mobile Me was c**p but it looks as if iCloud is a an even bigger heap of the smelly stuff.



  • Sjazbec Level 4 (1,670 points)

    PowerPCs are dead for several years already. They might have "life left in them", but there is simply no software anymore, so this is just nonsense to keep such machines in service. They are even a security risk, as Apple does not release fixes for them that adress malware and certificate corruption. Only Snow and Lion are served in this matter. And trojans are very real for OS X, otherwise Snow would not have Xprotector defintion lists and Lion on top of that everything running in virtual sandboxes.

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)
    They might have "life left in them", but there is simply no software anymore, so this is just nonsense to keep such machines in service

    My only useful Macs are PPC Macs, my one IntelMac is a toy not useful for much, especially in 10.6.x, & even moreso in Lion/10.7 !


    I'd be happy to invite anyone to attack any of my Macs, & I'd have least confidence in my Intel iMac.

  • WilsonLaidlaw Level 1 (0 points)

    I am afraid your post shows a lack of knowledge of Macs used professionally. Virtually all people who run Powermacs as servers and use Macs generally in a professional environment, would also run up to date anti virus/trojan/spyware/firewall/phishing software and do not rely on the OS provider to sort this. I have used Intego Virus Barrier for 9 years.


    The PowerPC PowerMacs are considerably more stable than the Intel successors and run much cooler. Our current batch have been running non-stop since 2005, with very few issues indeed, although we do swap out the disk drives as a precaution after 3 years. In France, where we run a MacPro, we get quite a few problems and SBOOD is a frequent and unwelcome guest. The Leopard OS is barely 4 years old and to dump support for it after this brief period, is just plain unprofessional.


    If Apple really do want to continue to attract the professional market and not just become a supplier of over-priced tech toys to teenagers, they really need to improve their support and back up. When we switched to Apple in 2003, their telephone support was fantastic. Now it is just like everybody else: Incomprehensible ignorami. Since they have now stopped making their blade servers, I assume they are not interested in the professional market any more.



  • txinto Level 1 (0 points)

    We have paid for online sync between our macs and our iphones.  Contacts & calendars.  Now, if you have a Windows (Vista and Windows 7!!!!) you can sync, but only if you have the LAST version of Macs, can sync. 



    Why not a panel like this for Leopard?


    I think Apple is making a big mistake here.  Some of us have computers that are old but sufficient.  Most of us have an old-but-brilliant desktop computer in our house, storing our pictures and back ups, and we love it.  Now Apple has decided to steal a functionality to these computers.  The functionality to keep calendars and contact synchronized.  A very easy functionality to keep!  And most of us have already bought a Lion license and paid for iCloud.


    The MobileMe users were excited at the beginning.  Then we continued using it and thinking it is not worthy but is easy and works.  Now we think we are being framed.


    Today is iCloud, but today I think maybe is not a good idea to rely on Apple services for future.



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