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Q: iPad photo sort order changed with iOS 5

The Photos application packaged with iOS 4 always sorted the photos by the "date taken" from the EXIF data.

The Photos application packaged with iOS 5 uses some other sorting scheme.  Possibly "none".

 

Can anyone shed any light, or is this a bona fide bug?

Posted on Oct 13, 2011 10:43 AM

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I found this discussion by Google search. I must say I originally have bought the iPAD (2) as photo displaying device. First shock was to find out that it was not possible in the photo app to make one's own custom order by simply rearranging pics in albums by touch screen operation. What? "Custom sort" is a feature of even the most basic photo management programs.

 

Then I slowly got used to the time stamp (photo taken on....) order. WIth iOS 5 everything seems messed up now.

 

I mean this is the lamest software fail I have come across in a long time. Does any at Apple think about what they do? I read that there are people here who have thousands of photos ordered since the iPAD came out.

 

Now not only do they give a choice of how to order the photos, they also change the way the crap software "itunes" syncs them automatically and without any  user option.

 

This is beyond useless, beyond useless. Apple needs to finally give the user a "custom sort" option. Let them quickly sort photos as you can sort the aps on the iPAD desktop. Easy with your finger.

 

Until then, the photo app is the user- unfriendliest piece of software I know.

 

User friendly? Hardly! Sorry, but this is so frustrating...

 

Bernie

Posted on Nov 7, 2011 2:10 PM

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  • by ekosonic,

    ekosonic ekosonic Nov 12, 2011 12:56 PM in response to Orthonormal
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    Nov 12, 2011 12:56 PM in response to Orthonormal

    Not being able to downgrade to IOS4 I hoped 5.0.1 would fix this error, but it doesn't. Waiting for 5.0.2.

  • by Petr80,

    Petr80 Petr80 Nov 17, 2011 6:31 AM in response to Orthonormal
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    Nov 17, 2011 6:31 AM in response to Orthonormal

    I don't know, if I have the same problem as you have.

     

    All was fine when I imported photos from local drive (ie. drive in my MacBookPro). But when I imported photos to iTunes from network drive via AFP protocol (on Ubuntu server) then all photos are sorted wrong.

    I have this problem on my iPhone and iPad since iOS5. Therefore I must copy all new photos to desktop, import to iPad and then deleted from desktop :-(

     

    To all above - where you have your photos ? On local drive or on network as me ?

     

    (sorry for my poor English)

  • by EvilHyperion,

    EvilHyperion EvilHyperion Nov 17, 2011 7:00 AM in response to Petr80
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    Nov 17, 2011 7:00 AM in response to Petr80

    Hi Petr80.

    Interesting fact, which I can agree with. When I sync my iPad 2 from files on a network drive the all get scrumbled on my iPad. When they are on the local disk on the machine where iTunes is installed they are 99% fine (I only found one picture not in order). So the problem does not seem to be only iOS5 related. Most likely it's the new async way of synchronizing iTunes with the iOS which scrambled things up...

    Does have anybody more experience with this? Is there anybody who also has the random sorting problem with pictures on the local drive?

     

    Cheers.

  • by markus238,

    markus238 markus238 Nov 17, 2011 7:21 AM in response to Petr80
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    Nov 17, 2011 7:21 AM in response to Petr80

    Hi Petr80,

     

    good point. I too have this problem since IOS5. My files are on a Samba-Share on a QNAP-NAS. This was no problem under IOS4. Now the sort-order seems to be completly random. I use symbolic links to point to the folders I want to sync.

     

    I wondered why there were not much more complaints about this issue - if this is limited to people storing their files on network share this could be a explanation.

     

    So to me this makes it a bug - the sort order should not be affected by the storage location. It worked under IOS4.

     

    Cheers

  • by chx84,

    chx84 chx84 Nov 17, 2011 7:47 AM in response to markus238
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    Nov 17, 2011 7:47 AM in response to markus238

    I have the random sorting problem with pictures on my local drive (Windows 7).

  • by tmronin,

    tmronin tmronin Nov 17, 2011 8:08 AM in response to markus238
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:08 AM in response to markus238

    same here with local files (mac OSX).

     

    thanks apple for making me buy a 3rd party app to be able to use my ipad for the use that i purchased it for in the first place.  Displaying images and showing clients my work.

     

    i had to buy Photo Manager Pro (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-manager-pro/id393858562?mt=8) which allows custom sorting and everything else that IOS4 had built in.

     

    feh.

  • by frankfromhove,

    frankfromhove frankfromhove Nov 18, 2011 1:29 PM in response to Orthonormal
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    Nov 18, 2011 1:29 PM in response to Orthonormal

    A good workaround is using the FileBrowser App.

    While its main function is accessing files on remote computers, it has got a very nice Photo Library function.

    This allows sorting and viewing pictures in a folder ordered alphabetically and 4 other sorts. Problem solved.

     

    It also can show the name of a (photo) file.

     

    If not so much annoyance for all of us, it would be funny that a secondary function of an app outperforms the native iOS5 Photo Viewer.

  • by Pedro Bernardo,

    Pedro Bernardo Pedro Bernardo Nov 19, 2011 8:37 AM in response to Orthonormal
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    Nov 19, 2011 8:37 AM in response to Orthonormal

    Hey everybody. I also had a problem with my iPad photo library and ios 5.

    But now I fixed and it is working great. Here is the answer:

    http://leimobile.com/faq-how-to-fix-ios-5-photo-sync-issues/

     

    cheers

  • by Orthonormal,

    Orthonormal Orthonormal Nov 19, 2011 11:36 AM in response to Pedro Bernardo
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    Nov 19, 2011 11:36 AM in response to Pedro Bernardo

    Deleting the iPad photo cache does not solve the problem in the Windows version.

  • by alba63,

    alba63 alba63 Nov 19, 2011 12:29 PM in response to frankfromhove
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    Nov 19, 2011 12:29 PM in response to frankfromhove

    Wel, I got 2 of those 3rd party apps, they both allow different sorting types, alphabetical, date of photo taken etc. Photo manager Pro allows alos simply dragging around of photos to the place you want it to have. Seems that everybody else seems to get it right, except Apple. The only thing that goes for the iOS photo app is its elegant Gui.

     

    It is long overdue that they leave it to the user how to sort photos and finally add that to this app.

     

    Bernie

  • by Petr80,

    Petr80 Petr80 Nov 20, 2011 12:36 AM in response to Pedro Bernardo
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    Nov 20, 2011 12:36 AM in response to Pedro Bernardo

    Hi Pedro Bernardo,

    your linked manual not working for me. I think that this solution is working only with photos saved on local drive (maybe directly in iPhoto library).

     

    Petr

  • by Zwockel,

    Zwockel Zwockel Nov 20, 2011 7:09 AM in response to markus238
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    Nov 20, 2011 7:09 AM in response to markus238

    Hi i have a similar configuration: my Photos are stored on a thecus nas and access from iTunes is via SAMBA. I found out that the actual sort order of the photos equals the order the files are listet by the DIR-command in the directory respectivley. Unfortunately the DIRCMD Option /ON does not work as a workaround.

     

    I tried a lot differnent worarounds:

    - change the EXIF-dates

    - change the filenames

    - rewrite the whole folder

    ...nothing worked for me.

     

    So it seems to me, that iOS 5 ignores the EXIF-Tags, and ignores the Date and Times-settings of the files and it ignores the filenames.

     

    I would call this definetly a bug.

     

    And of course it is not possible to sort the Potos manually on the iPad in an extra folder.

  • by alba63,

    alba63 alba63 Dec 14, 2011 3:13 PM in response to Zwockel
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    Dec 14, 2011 3:13 PM in response to Zwockel

    So are there any new insights?

    I tried to rename photos in a folder after my custom sort, but after sync via iTunes they still have the same chaotic and wrong ordering.

     

    Where can one write to directly contact Apple about that problem?

     

    thanks

    Bernie

  • by Petr80,

    Petr80 Petr80 Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM in response to alba63
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    Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM in response to alba63

    alba63: nothing changes. I have up to date iTunes and 5.0.1 firmware in my iPhone and iPad2 as well and I have still the same problem. All of my synced albums are sorted wrong.

  • by ekosonic,

    ekosonic ekosonic Dec 15, 2011 11:23 PM in response to Petr80
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    Dec 15, 2011 11:23 PM in response to Petr80

    I switched to non-native FileBrowser. This app is not free but offers all flexibility on pictures and more. You easily connect to other computers around the house. Too bad that Apple is not fixing this bug. Maybe in a next IOS version?

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