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Q: iOS 5 AVRCP is it version 1.3?

Does the final iOS 5 for iPhone and iPad have Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3 support?  Supposedly the betas have/had it.  I have a Kenwood DDX418 car stereo that according to the owner's manual supports AVRCP 1.3 that enables showing tag info like artist, song, album info.  I have my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 updated to iOS 5 but the song info doesn't seem to be tranmitting so I'm wondering if the AVRCP is still at 1.0.  Thanks.

Posted on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM

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  • by Derek Ivey,

    Derek Ivey Derek Ivey Apr 13, 2012 6:45 PM in response to dlj23
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    Apr 13, 2012 6:45 PM in response to dlj23

    I don't think you can type in a name for the device, unfortunately. It usually gets it from the BT device. If you pair it using the voice prompts, it will ask you to say the name of it, however. When you change devices with the voice prompts, it will say the name of the device that is selected and you can cycle through them I believe.

  • by dlj23,

    dlj23 dlj23 Apr 13, 2012 7:36 PM in response to swill00net
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    Apr 13, 2012 7:36 PM in response to swill00net

    Hello. I tried using the voice command to pair. Although it does ask me for a name and I do provide, it still says "No Name" when i try to change the link. I'm wondering if it's related to the other issues mentioned in this thread.

  • by swill00net,

    swill00net swill00net Apr 19, 2012 4:15 PM in response to swill00net
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    Apr 19, 2012 4:15 PM in response to swill00net

    I got a Sony MEX-BT3000P ($130 single DIN radio) to replace the Kenwood DDX-418 that got stolen out of my car last year and the metadata actually shows up with my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 running iOS 5.1 while being sync'd via Bluetooth A2DP.  I can see the track name, artist, and album on the display.  This was a complete surprise to me and I was not expecting it since this data didn't show up on the $500 double DIN Kenwood with a display that actually had a specified area on it for metadata to show up.  And I don't think I've seen anyone in here say they have seen the data show on their systems via bluetooth either since I started this thread last year.  The Kenwood's manual states that AVCRP 1.3 is supported if the device supports it so I had to assume that iOS was NOT supporting 1.3 and of course all this time there has been no official word at all from Apple whether it's there or not.  I had iOS 5.01 back in November when my Kenwood was stolen so I don't know if iOS 5.1 has anything to do with it or not, I doubt it though.

     

    Well I still don't know if iOS 5.1 has AVCRP 1.3 or not but I am seeing track info on this Sony unit, and I'm only connected via bluetooth, I do not have a USB connection, the radio doesn't have a USB connection.  I have not been able to find any bluetooth specs on the sony radio to whether or not 1.3 or 1.4 AVCRP is in it or not.  I didn't even realize a 1.4 spec was out, I haven't been keeping up with this since last year.

     

    Go figure?

  • by Michael j K,

    Michael j K Michael j K Apr 19, 2012 11:00 PM in response to swill00net
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    Apr 19, 2012 11:00 PM in response to swill00net

    Hey Guys, I found this under Iphone support. its a recent article posted by apple. Here are all the bluetooth files supported it looks like A2DP and AVCRP 1.3 are supported by any iphone 3s and later.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647

  • by Derek Ivey,

    Derek Ivey Derek Ivey Apr 20, 2012 7:51 AM in response to Michael j K
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    Apr 20, 2012 7:51 AM in response to Michael j K

    I don't see any mention of 1.3. They just say AVRCP and don't list a version. I wish Apple would do something about this...

  • by philip.c,

    philip.c philip.c Apr 23, 2012 6:54 AM in response to Derek Ivey
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    Apr 23, 2012 6:54 AM in response to Derek Ivey

    I assume it would be some sort of implementation of 1.3 because it does work on some vehicles (Toyota mostly). I can confirm metadata working in a Toyota Venza. Too bad it doesn't work on plenty of others. Not working in my 2012 Mazda 3 and didn't work on a JVC AVX740 HU.

  • by Alan Somers,

    Alan Somers Alan Somers Apr 23, 2012 12:06 PM in response to philip.c
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:06 PM in response to philip.c

    I would agree.  Audio playback, up/down track control, and metadata works really well in my new 2012 Highlander, which indicates to me it's 1.3.  The manual says that the Highlander BT audio system supports browsing, which I assume means 1.4, but my iPhone won't do that.  Maybe we'll get 1.4 in iOS 6.

  • by karate-kid,

    karate-kid karate-kid Apr 23, 2012 12:12 PM in response to Alan Somers
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:12 PM in response to Alan Somers

    "Maybe we'll get 1.4 in iOS 6."

     

     

    I think many people had similar thoughts regarding iOS 5.1....

  • by toolgrl919,

    toolgrl919 toolgrl919 May 1, 2012 8:05 AM in response to swill00net
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    May 1, 2012 8:05 AM in response to swill00net

    I'm currently in a 2012 Hyundai Sonata for a rental & the iPhone links up perfectly with it  You can plug it in with the cord, or connect with Bluetooth.  All the information from the iPod displays, it even displays the information from apps like I Heart Radio. 

     

    I wish my 2012 Mazda3 worked like that...

  • by RKay77,

    RKay77 RKay77 May 1, 2012 10:14 AM in response to swill00net
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    May 1, 2012 10:14 AM in response to swill00net

    Hey folks,

     

    I'm picking up a 2012 Mazda 3 sedan GT in about 30 minutes(!), and found this thread in doing some pre-research into pairing my iPhone 4s to play music over bluetooth in the new car.

     

    I'm disappointed to hear about this issue, but am grateful this community is here to share perspectives and try to get things solved...

     

    Just a shot in the dark, but has anyone considered whether this issue is related to the PLAYER being used on their iPhone? I intend to try using the default music player app (and expect it to fail to show track info etc. as described by everyone else), and will then also try playing my music with Soundhound (the only other music playing app I currently have installed).

     

    Any reason to believe this might make a difference? Anyone alreayd tried these/other music playing apps?

  • by Derek Ivey,

    Derek Ivey Derek Ivey May 1, 2012 10:20 AM in response to RKay77
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    May 1, 2012 10:20 AM in response to RKay77

    Congrats on he new purchase! Did you get the iGT or the sGT? I have the iGT hatchback and love it!

     

    Good theory, but I think it is something with Apple's implementation of AVRCP. When I pair my HP Touchpad to my car, the screen shows something else besides "BT Audio" I forget what exactly, but it always just shows BT Audio when I pair the iPhone. I hope Apple gets this fixed soon... I've had a ticket open since January and still no fix.

  • by philip.c,

    philip.c philip.c May 1, 2012 11:06 AM in response to RKay77
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    May 1, 2012 11:06 AM in response to RKay77

    I have a Canadian GT (analog to sGT in the States) with the Bose system and have not had success with any app. I've tried the built in music player, last.fm and soundhoud (at least i think I tried that one).

  • by RKay77,

    RKay77 RKay77 May 1, 2012 12:18 PM in response to swill00net
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    May 1, 2012 12:18 PM in response to swill00net

    Thanks Derek and Philip. I'm in Canada too so I guess my GT is equivalent to the U.S. sGT(?). And I can confirm that song info is not displaying on my MID regardless of music app  .

     

    FWIW, I asked my salesman about the BT issue, and he said he's heard that all models will be equipped with more capable BT modules by 2015 but could offer no other insight. Then again, he also told me to drive around with my headlights adjusted to their down-most position, and that my rearview mirror has the HomeLink feature (which it doesn't), so his input is probably pretty meaningless.

     

    Sorry if this is a bit off topic...but while we're talking about the Mazda 3 sound system, can anyone enlighten me regarding what settings I should use (Bose system)? I thought I shouldn't have to play around with bass/treble/fade etc. if the system is set up well to start with, but a quick look online brings many different perspectives. Especially regarding the Bose Audio Pilot and CenterPoint systems. Should I turn these features off for better sound? Anyone know, or know where to find the best advice on this??

     

    Thanks in advance!

  • by Will121,

    Will121 Will121 May 2, 2012 9:37 AM in response to swill00net
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    May 2, 2012 9:37 AM in response to swill00net

    Just wanted to add to the discussion again.  I just upgraded phones from an iPhone 4 running 5.1 to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus running Anroid 4.0.3 and the name still doesn't display on my 2012 Mazdaspeed Tech.  I was hoping that switching to Ice Cream Sandwich would let it work but still no such luck.

  • by Derek Ivey,

    Derek Ivey Derek Ivey May 2, 2012 9:38 AM in response to Will121
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    May 2, 2012 9:38 AM in response to Will121

    Stock ICS lacks AVRCP 1.3 support for some reason. You will need to find a ROM that has it. I am running CM9 on my Touchpad and it works. I was running an older version of CM9 which was the base ICS and it didn't work. I just recently upgraded it.

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