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Q: Sim Card Failure No Sim with iPhone 4S Anyone Else?

Got the new 32GB iPhone 4S today from AT&T, activated the phone was working all morning, I started experimenting with Siri and a couple minutes later the phone was hotter than usual and I get Sim Card failure, and Bad SIM messages.  The phone now only says No Sim.  I get home take out the SIM card and put it in my previous iPhone 4 and it works just fine.  I then put in a blank micro SIM into the new iPhone 4S, but it still says NO SIM.  Thinking the SIM reader got fried some how already.

 

 

Anyone else have this problem maybe a bad batch out there, or I just got an unlucky lemon?

 

 

I made an appointment for the genius bar tomorrow, but I seriously doubt they will have replacement stock of the 4S already.  Guess I will find out what my next course of action will be tomorrow trying to get a replacement since new orders are taking 30 days to ship I am afraid I will have to wait awhile to enjoy the new features of my already paid for phone

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 1:53 AM

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  • by p_rod50,

    p_rod50 p_rod50 Feb 15, 2012 3:32 PM in response to p_rod50
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:32 PM in response to p_rod50

    Here's the latest update. I presently have iPhone #5 here at home. Before I left the Apple store, the genius who was helping me told me NOT to restore my phone...thinking that something corrupted my creep back onto it, so he made sure it was just synched before I left the store. He told me that this particular phone just arrived late yesterday and that it had the most recent firmware loaded onto it. He was, as all the other geniuses I have met there the past two weeks, was sympathetic to my ongoing problems and quite understanding that constantly being on call for emergency surgeries demanded a phone that works consistently is paramount right now and he told me that the new version of the OS is supposed to be being released very soon.

     

    I have absolutely no complaints as to how this particular store has handled my situation. I just wish the folks in Cupertino were a little more on top of this problem. I do know now that I am not the only local person having this difficulty either.

     

    Anyway, besides having a little more to "tweak" on this particular phone becasue a "restore" was NOT performed has not been a problem this afternoon; and I feel that maybe, just maybe, this one will work out a little better for me. (?)

     

    I did ask him about my iHome clock radio and if it could be doing anything to cause this and he told me that the iHomes have a stamp on them "certifying" them for use with the phones and he dismissed my idea of them possibly being at fault. I kind of doubted that it was causing the problem but after this many replacements that was one of the few constants amongst all the phones (I use it every night).

     

    I will certainly keep this forum updated on how this phone works. I am also a little gun-shy now about jumping on any new updates since this problem appears to be related to the update that was made available just weeks after I first purchased this phone. I may not be a 'first on the blocker' when the update appears, just to be sure. ;-)

     

    Pat

  • by aaron1266,

    aaron1266 aaron1266 Feb 15, 2012 11:49 PM in response to p_rod50
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    Feb 15, 2012 11:49 PM in response to p_rod50

    Funny how the very "geniuses" who work at an apple store prevent you from updating a product that is supposed to work all the times. If thats the way how apple addresses all those problems that plagues his products...! Yes, we must be thinking different just to justify thata phone happens NOT TO BE A PHONE!

  • by aaron1266,

    aaron1266 aaron1266 Feb 15, 2012 11:59 PM in response to p_rod50
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    Feb 15, 2012 11:59 PM in response to p_rod50

    As many users wit the little "problem" of the "No SIM" et all. I can confirm that under IOS 5.1 beta 3 All those issues are gone. My worst fear is when the beta expires. Who wants to bet?

  • by IStar_sky,

    IStar_sky IStar_sky Feb 16, 2012 12:08 AM in response to aaron1266
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    Feb 16, 2012 12:08 AM in response to aaron1266

    Before beta expires the new firmware usually comes out officially.

  • by Bhadresh Panchal,

    Bhadresh Panchal Bhadresh Panchal Feb 16, 2012 12:27 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Feb 16, 2012 12:27 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    If Steve Job was alive he would have made this problem solved immediately. Seems like Apple is getting sour Orange now

  • by Bhadresh Panchal,

    Bhadresh Panchal Bhadresh Panchal Feb 16, 2012 12:32 AM in response to Bhadresh Panchal
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    Feb 16, 2012 12:32 AM in response to Bhadresh Panchal

    I bought iphone 4s 16gb factory unlock from USA and now using it in India, having IOS 5.0.1 (406) still i am facing same problems everyday and need to reboot and turn on airplane mode couple of times in a day. My iphone is under warranty but cant even replace it as now i m in India :(((((. I wish apple shud do something immediately or would be sure loosing many customers world wide.

  • by aaron1266,

    aaron1266 aaron1266 Feb 16, 2012 12:45 AM in response to IStar_sky
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    Feb 16, 2012 12:45 AM in response to IStar_sky

    No changes from beta? I would like to double my bet!

  • by Lourenco,

    Lourenco Lourenco Feb 16, 2012 3:21 PM in response to aaron1266
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    Feb 16, 2012 3:21 PM in response to aaron1266

    Here the same SIM problem.

    I've got iPhone 4S since November 2011. Everything right until January 2012. Symptomes: Every day in the morning the message "Invalid SIM". After restart all OK. In the end of the month I got several messages a day: "no sim installed", "Without network". Other times the network indicator was strong but in real i was nor connect to the network. I've changed the micro-SIM 2 times but nothing was solved. I went to the operator that sold me the iphone, in Portugal, and now i'm waiting for a "repair" or a new iphone. Meanwile i have to wait 2 or 3 weeks.

    It's impressive that the called by apple "the best iphone ever" has this problem for so many time unsolved. This is an high-end phone. It should not have ... a SIM problem and a battery problem. Plese Apple, shame on you. Solve the problem.

    If the solution is iOS 5.1, please put it there ASAP.

  • by p_rod50,

    p_rod50 p_rod50 Feb 18, 2012 10:01 PM in response to Lourenco
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    Feb 18, 2012 10:01 PM in response to Lourenco

    The saga continues....

     

    iPhone number 5 failed. This was supposed to be "a new shipment that hasn't been seeing this problem". Well, I saw it again yesterday morning after disconnecting it from my MacBook AIr. I was able to capture the screen showing the warning with a digi cam so I can prove the problem exists, so I guess I'll have to head down to the Apple store for another replacement.

     

    Should I even bother burning the gas to go get another phone?

     

    Five replacements.....five failures.

     

    I am really tired of dealing with this.

     

    I really feel sorry for those of you out there that do not have access to a store where you can get a replacement, but from what I have been dealing with, what they replace your failing phone with will be no better than what you presently have.

     

    Unbelievable......

     

    Pat

  • by aaron1266,

    aaron1266 aaron1266 Feb 19, 2012 2:07 AM in response to p_rod50
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    Feb 19, 2012 2:07 AM in response to p_rod50

    There is no need for a replacement. The PROBLEM IS just from software and the only solution is the 5.1 beta 3. Everyone with a iphone 4s with IOS 5.0 have no problems until they "upgrade" as Apple dictates. Now, it would be just nice if Apple lets the user go back to previous versions of his OS but they cant afford to be wrong. (that way of thinking it`s soooo windows, thats not thinking different!)

  • by Mr. Luigi,

    Mr. Luigi Mr. Luigi Feb 19, 2012 7:09 AM in response to p_rod50
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    Feb 19, 2012 7:09 AM in response to p_rod50

    Hi Pat,

     

    First, I want you to know that I am very sorry that you have had all the difficulties with your iPhone.  Of course, my feelings don't help you at all.  Still, I am sure there are many posters here, like myself, who can empathize with your situation.

     

    I am sure you have read many posts in this forum looking for solutions.  When you have, I am sure you have noticed that I, and quite a few others, have posted that our iPhone 4S's (2 of them in my case) went from having Big Time SIM problems to none with the installation of the iOS 5.1 beta 3 software/firmware.  In my personal case, it was a striking change and immediate after installation.  I think my experience, and the experience of others, indicates that a fair amount of the SIM problems (not ALL as SIM issues can be generated by multiple causes even without a software "bug") are fixed by the 5.1 beta 3 version of the software.   It is Feb. 19th as I write this.  I certainly have no insider information, but I am betting we will be seeing iOS 5.1 being released in early March.  When we do I think a good percentage of these SIM problems will be solved.

     

    If you have been reluctant to install the beta software I totally understand.  It is so close to early March that I don't know if I would bother installing it myself now.  I also don't want to appear to be a Pollyanna about this, but I believe you should allow yourself  a modicum of optimism that your long, frustrating SIM journey may be over in a couple weeks.

     

    For all the comradery that shared misery generates, I am sure we are all looking to the day when this discussion forum can be put to rest.

     

    My money is on March 7th.

     

    Best, Mr. Luigi

  • by p_rod50,

    p_rod50 p_rod50 Feb 19, 2012 7:32 AM in response to Mr. Luigi
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    Feb 19, 2012 7:32 AM in response to Mr. Luigi

    aaron1266:

     

    Yes, I do wish that there was someway I could 'retro-fit' my phone with the original firmware that came on it (IOS5.0), but as I understand it, that is not an option. I will be the first to admit that my strong suit is NOT having the knowledge on how to download the beta 3 proggie that is supposed to "cure" this SIM problem...and I am just afraid of doing something wrong and winding up with a very expensive paperweight. :-) 

     

    Mr. Luigi!

     

    Thank you for your response too. I think I will just cancel my appt. @ the Apple Store this afternoon. Why drive that far, receive another phone that most likely will still be exhibiting this SIM card problem? Then come home and have all the hassles of setting up everything again..the last couple of times we did not use the restore option, thinking we may be 'restoring' something bad, so a simple synch was done but still lots of data was not synchced.

     

    I think I'll just wait for the update to come out, wait a few days for others to beta test it, then download it and give it a try.

     

    And thanks to all that have posted to this topic, giving many of us less 'tech savvy' individuals something to go on.

     

    March 7th???  We can only hope, Mr Luigi! :-)

     

    Pat

  • by Rusdi,

    Rusdi Rusdi Feb 19, 2012 8:42 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:42 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    Hi, after following this thread since the beginning now I am totally worried. Can someone from Apple give me a confident level whether the "sim failure" phenomenon is caused by Software or Hardware? If iOS 5.1 is the solution I am happy to wait but if it is a hardware issue then this is really a nightmare as I bought my iPhone 4S in Australia but I live in Indonesia. Mr. Cook (Tim Cook) please do quick action.

     

    Rusdi

  • by suryopras,

    suryopras suryopras Feb 19, 2012 12:58 PM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Feb 19, 2012 12:58 PM in response to robsdoghouse

    I have no problem with the carrier here, but sometimes the 3G is gone after I use WiFi for long time. All I have to do is switch on the Airplane mode then turn it off again, no need to reset network / reboot.

     

    So far, I am fine with it but hope will see a fix in iOS 5.1.

  • by VRSmart,

    VRSmart VRSmart Feb 20, 2012 12:02 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Feb 20, 2012 12:02 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    Hi,

    My iPhone 4S sim card problems seem to be solved. My guess as to what happened is:

     

    iPhone 4 S early batch.

    iOS update

    Corrupts SIM card

    Network provider sends me new SIM card. My original iPhone 4S corrupts that as well.

    Apple replace my iPhone 4S but put corrupted SIM card into the new iPhone so probelms continue.

    Network provider sends me another new SIM card.

    No more SIM card problems :-)

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