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Q: Sim Card Failure No Sim with iPhone 4S Anyone Else?

Got the new 32GB iPhone 4S today from AT&T, activated the phone was working all morning, I started experimenting with Siri and a couple minutes later the phone was hotter than usual and I get Sim Card failure, and Bad SIM messages.  The phone now only says No Sim.  I get home take out the SIM card and put it in my previous iPhone 4 and it works just fine.  I then put in a blank micro SIM into the new iPhone 4S, but it still says NO SIM.  Thinking the SIM reader got fried some how already.

 

 

Anyone else have this problem maybe a bad batch out there, or I just got an unlucky lemon?

 

 

I made an appointment for the genius bar tomorrow, but I seriously doubt they will have replacement stock of the 4S already.  Guess I will find out what my next course of action will be tomorrow trying to get a replacement since new orders are taking 30 days to ship I am afraid I will have to wait awhile to enjoy the new features of my already paid for phone

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 1:53 AM

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  • by shokre,

    shokre shokre Jan 13, 2012 1:36 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Jan 13, 2012 1:36 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    well, got a big problem as I hit restore, thinking it will solve the problem, but now it says I need to insert a SIM card to activate the phone. is there anything I can do without going to an Apple store? The problem is I live abroad (out of my country, not going home for some time - 3 months). I've had my dad send me a new SIM, but not sure that's going to solve the problem (when it arrives). Any possible way of instaling the 5.1 beta iOS?

     

    help!

  • by joembaguio,

    joembaguio joembaguio Jan 13, 2012 4:00 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Jan 13, 2012 4:00 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    i just updated mine:

     

    from: iOS 5.0.1 (9A406) to iOS 5.1 beta 3

     

    from: 1.0.14 to firmware 1.5.04

     

     

    its working now and i hope the sim failure issue has been resolved 100%

     

    i will give update tomorrow

     

    cheers!

  • by shokre,

    shokre shokre Jan 13, 2012 4:20 AM in response to shokre
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    Jan 13, 2012 4:20 AM in response to shokre

    also, another big problem is that when I connect the iPhone to iTunes, iTunes does not see it, i.e. it doesn't react. up to my ankles in s*it I reckon...

     

    please someone help, as I'm not sure if the Italian waranty covers phones bought in Croatia. and I would really love to sort this out myself.

  • by Mr. Luigi,

    Mr. Luigi Mr. Luigi Jan 13, 2012 5:48 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Jan 13, 2012 5:48 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    Has ANYONE installed iOS 5.1 beta 3 and NOT had it fix their SIM issues?

  • by Mr. Luigi,

    Mr. Luigi Mr. Luigi Jan 13, 2012 5:58 AM in response to shokre
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    Jan 13, 2012 5:58 AM in response to shokre

    shoker,

     

    Are you trying to connect via wifi or are your trying via the 30 pin connector cable?  It should recognize your iPhone via the 30 pin "old style" way of connecting to iTunes.  You need to connect to iTunes at least once via the 30 pin connector before it will start to recognize your iPhone via wifi.  However, I too occassionally can not get my computer/iTunes to recognize my iPhone wirelessly despite having gone through the required initial hardwire connection.  What works for me is to shut down iTunes and then restart it.  During restart it will usually "look around" for iDevices it has been paired to and they will once again show up under "Devices" in the left column of the iTunes screen.  Another technique that works for me is to take my iPhone and connect it to its AC adaptor.  Once I do this, that also often will kick iTunes in the pants and cause it to recognize your iPhone.  Once you do get your iPhone to appear under devices in iTunes AND you are wirelessly connected, DO NOT click on the eject arrow next to the name of your iPhone.  Just leave it there.  I do think there is some buggy behavior with this recognizing process right now.  Theoretically I believe once you go through that initial hard wire "pairing" it should forever recognize your iPhone.  That has not always been the case for me.  So, I have had to employ the methods above.

  • by shokre,

    shokre shokre Jan 13, 2012 6:04 AM in response to Mr. Luigi
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    Jan 13, 2012 6:04 AM in response to Mr. Luigi

    it doesn't see it at all. I've tried connecting it via cable, restarting iTunes or event the PC itself, but no game. also, I can't get the iPhone to go into DFU mode. I'll try again this evening, but I'm really affraid that it won't recognize the new SIM card that is on it's way to me. then I'll be iPhone-less for 3 months, and I don't like that one bit.

     

     

     

    thanks for the advice, hope I can get it connected to iTunes and install the 5.1 beta 3 iOS, and hopefully, that will end my sorrows.

     

     

     

    any other useful advice?

  • by Mr. Luigi,

    Mr. Luigi Mr. Luigi Jan 13, 2012 7:51 AM in response to shokre
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    Jan 13, 2012 7:51 AM in response to shokre

    Dear Shokre,

     

    Not recognizing your iPhone when connected via the 30 pin connector is troubling.  That really should work.  Connecting the iPhone to its AC adaptor should also have initated a connection between your PC/iTunes and your iPhone as long, of course, as you have iTunes on.  (Duh, why did I even say that?)

     

    Have you tried deleting iTunes from your PC and reinstalling a fresh copy?  Maybe iTunes has somehow become corrupted and is causing the non-recognition of your iPhone.  Of course, it does take two to tango and it could be the iphone.  Do you have other iDevices (iPad, iPod, etc.)?  Will your computer recognize them when connected via the 30 pin connector?

     

    Have you gone to iTunes Preferences, clicked on Devices, and checked to make sure that "prevent iPods, iPhones, and iPad from syncing automatically" is NOT checked?  Does your iPhone even appear on that same Devices screen under "Device backups?"

     

    Just trying to think of anything and everything.

  • by Benstevensuk,

    Benstevensuk Benstevensuk Jan 13, 2012 7:56 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Jan 13, 2012 7:56 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    it would also be worth checking your usb ports are working properly - device manager type test, or even the wire itself.

     

    but to back up the post above, i have an old ipod classic which wont connect to the itunes store with a 30pin due to turning off the auto sync. it stops it from even showing up.

  • by Benstevensuk,

    Benstevensuk Benstevensuk Jan 13, 2012 7:57 AM in response to robsdoghouse
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    Jan 13, 2012 7:57 AM in response to robsdoghouse

    oh, and nearly 24 hours on 5.1 beta, phone has been out and about, working perfectly so far!

  • by Sethmns,

    Sethmns Sethmns Jan 13, 2012 8:09 AM in response to Benstevensuk
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    Jan 13, 2012 8:09 AM in response to Benstevensuk

    I have also some info regarding 5.1 beta 3. I had today very strange effect. Once my phone had call failed and signal bar began jumping from 0 to 5 bars. It was a loop procces. I could not call during that time. Reboot helped. 3 hours after that phone works ok.

  • by joefromRI,

    joefromRI joefromRI Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM in response to shokre
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    Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM in response to shokre

    You're hosed unless you want to try and jailbreak it, but if you cant get it into DFU mode you're hosed.  If you restored and it still doesn't recognize the sim, you have the same hardware issue I had, and you need a new phone.

  • by shokre,

    shokre shokre Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM in response to Mr. Luigi
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    Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM in response to Mr. Luigi

    is it possible that it doesn't want to connect because I have no SIM card? once again, I hit restore and now I can't activate it. When it restored it was connected via cable to iTunes on my PC, but I couldn't get to the screen where you can choose to restore or update, it just said "No SIM card". The trouble is, I disconected it afterwards

     

    Any possible way to re-activate it (DFU mode or something) so I can reach this screen and try either syncing it back or install 5.1 beta?

  • by joefromRI,

    joefromRI joefromRI Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM in response to shokre
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    Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM in response to shokre

    You restored it and there's no sim in it, therefore the phone is now deactivated.   you need to insert the sim and go through the activation process before the phone will come up in itunes.  Given that you've restored (which downgrades to 5.0 from 5.0.1), you can rule out the fact that it's a software issue.  Your phone has a hardware defect and needs to be replaced.

  • by shokre,

    shokre shokre Jan 13, 2012 8:36 AM in response to joefromRI
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    Jan 13, 2012 8:36 AM in response to joefromRI

    could it really be the SIM card? I'll wait for it to come (hopefully soon), and if that doesn't help, send it back to Apple. What a bunch of BS.

  • by joefromRI,

    joefromRI joefromRI Jan 13, 2012 8:39 AM in response to shokre
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    Jan 13, 2012 8:39 AM in response to shokre

    No, it isn't the sim card.  It's a hardware defect with the sim reader inside your phone, I'm willing to bet money on it.  You're going through the same process I did except a new sim was the first thing I tried.  Chances are your bad sim reader also ruined the sim you have in the phone, so when you go to get a new one, that sim won't work in it either.  My bad sim reader fouled my original sim as well as the new one that I put in it, so that when I got a new phone, I also needed ANOTHER new sim as the others wouldn't work.

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