iPhone 4s Battery Life?

Yes, maybe you should get your battery checked. Even the hardware issue was small, but it happened. I returned my phone because of the defect of the battery. It was hot like the oven no matter what I did. My second one doesn't have that issue. So it is good to let it checked out.

However, the battery is no where near Apple specs. I wait for next update.

Thanks

Earlier this evening, I had decided to go to Sprint tomorrow and purchase an iPhone 4S.... my very first Apple purchase. My Blackberry Curve (3 years old) died yesterday.

With all this talk of battery problems, now I don't know what to do. I'm low tech (senior citizen), so I don't want a phone that won't work without me becoming a tech wizard.

It should work as advertised straight out of the box. This sounds awful and a very very very poor reflection on Apple. I'm afraid to buy an iPhone now.... Maybe I should stick with an upgraded Blackberry or look at a Samsung instead......

SusanMcL wrote:

Earlier this evening, I had decided to go to Sprint tomorrow and purchase an iPhone 4S.... my very first Apple purchase. My Blackberry Curve (3 years old) died yesterday.

With all this talk of battery problems, now I don't know what to do. I'm low tech (senior citizen), so I don't want a phone that won't work without me becoming a tech wizard.

It should work as advertised straight out of the box. This sounds awful and a very very very poor reflection on Apple. I'm afraid to buy an iPhone now.... Maybe I should stick with an upgraded Blackberry or look at a Samsung instead......

Ma'am, if you are comfortable with blackberry, you should go and buy another blackberry and I am sure you will be happy. Since you are not tech savvy, you probably won't miss the bells and whistles of an iPhone or Samsung android phones.

If you are considering Samsung android, you could have more problem figuring out how to use it.

Maybe you should consider giving Nokia's windows phone a try.

Notwithstanding above, iPhone is probably the best option for you if you want somethig that just works. Just remember to buy AppleCare.

Miless - Thank you for your reply. I was looking forward to the challenge of learning how to use the iPhone 4S. I am quite adept at reading user manuals and figuring out how to do the things I want a device to do. I know I would never use any smartphone to its full capacity, but I like to attempt to keep up with the new technology.

However, I expect a cell phone to work.. as advertised.. right out of the box. I shouldn't have to fiddle with a multitude of settings to "force" the battery to do what it is supposed to do.

I want a phone that works properly from the get go and, clearly, from all the posts on the 438 pages of this thread, the iPhone 4 S does not work as advertised. There are too many posts saying that people are returning the phones to the Apple Stores and that those who still have their phones still have unresolved issues with no official comment from Apple acknowledging the problem nor an announcement about how and when they will fix it.

All in all, not a comforting feeling for someone who was about to purchase her first Apple product...... just sayin'.

Shees... after getting a day and a half without a charge, I'm already down to 50% on maybe 5 hours (an hour of actual use). There's some inconsistency for ya. My 30 day return deadline is looming... The Samsung Nexus is sounding more appealing.

🙂

Miless's answer is really a sensible one - go with what one is familiar with and what do other choices stand for. I wish more Apple users were like that...

I thought maybe some complementary info would also help, for you and other readers of the forum. Well I did not know how much Apple care costs and I did find out here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480#overview i.e. 99$(for the iPhone). The initial Apple limited warranty lasts 1 year and technical support lasts for 90 days. Apple will extend both to 2 years and allow for 2 incidents of accidental damage being serviced for 49$ each when Apple care is purchased.

Also recently theverge.com came out with a really great article on smartphones, and in the little time that site has been up it has established itself quite nicely for its in depth coverage of stuff. Here it is : http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/16/2565102/smartphone-buyers-guide

Finally, if you buy the Iphone and are faced with some battery life issues, I've set up this thread with some of the main tips I extracted from the current thread:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3526981

Good luck!

AMRosario wrote:

Thanks. I haven't done what you asked. Not sure why I needed to in the first place. Not of the 8 iPhones I've had to deal with in the past have ever had this issue straight out of the box. Somehow I feel that isn't really the problem. I mean, if Apple is shipping these things out as fast as they build them (mine was in China only 2 days before I got it) would that really affect the battery's charge, or ability to hold one? The thing is draining power as I watch it. Never seen that happen since some FUBAR update once on the 3GS.

Anyway, if the battery requires that kind of TLC, shouldn't there be some kind of instruction to deal with this packed inside the box?

Antonio

You really need to follow apple's recommended battery callibration TODO's they list. This goes for every Lipo based battery. Be it Macbook, ipod, iphone, iPad, OR any WIndows Laptop. These procedures have been req. for yrs.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/

PG# 35 in the manual Chapter 3

SusanMcL wrote:

Miless - Thank you for your reply. I was looking forward to the challenge of learning how to use the iPhone 4S. I am quite adept at reading user manuals and figuring out how to do the things I want a device to do. I know I would never use any smartphone to its full capacity, but I like to attempt to keep up with the new technology.

However, I expect a cell phone to work.. as advertised.. right out of the box. I shouldn't have to fiddle with a multitude of settings to "force" the battery to do what it is supposed to do.

I want a phone that works properly from the get go and, clearly, from all the posts on the 438 pages of this thread, the iPhone 4 S does not work as advertised. There are too many posts saying that people are returning the phones to the Apple Stores and that those who still have their phones still have unresolved issues with no official comment from Apple acknowledging the problem nor an announcement about how and when they will fix it.

All in all, not a comforting feeling for someone who was about to purchase her first Apple product...... just sayin'.

I cannot say that i am not pro-Apple. Because i am. But ... look at the stats. There should be at least 10mil iPhone 4S sold worldwide since Oct 14. Looking at the number of post here, there are 6600 (or there abouts) of them. Assuming that each post represent each person who has problems with iPhone 4S (tho there are many many multiple posters here, but there are also many who suffered in silence, and we know there are many Samsung, RIM, Nokia, MS, Google, LG, Motorola, etc... employees, fanboys, afficionados here.), it represents 0.066% of the total number of iPhone 4S in circulation worldwide. When you are doing QC, how many % do you taken in to consider it as bad QC ? Is 0.066% considered bad QC?

Notwithstanding that, Apple admits there is a problem. And promises a fix.

As far as i am concerned, all my ipad, ipad 2, iphone 3GS, iphone 4, iphone 4S, ipod touch 4th gen ... are updated to iOS 5.0.1... none had battery issues illustrated (exaggerated) in this forum. True, i felt that the battery life of the iPhone 4S is not as long as i wish for it (shorter than my previous iPhone 4). But it lasts a whole day and more. To me it is suffcient. And it meets the specs given by Apple. I have 4 friends who owns iPhone 4S. One had no problem whatsoever from day one. Another 2 complain about battery drain rapidly, but the issue was solved after a few charge. One keeps complaining ... still complaining now after 2 weeks of owning the device, but without any evidence of battery drain.

Other than battery issues, i have not had any issues with the iPhone 4S. Or any of the older iPhones i had... even the 3G which i bought in 2008... still works fine... albeit a little slow now. My blackberry has more problem than any of my iPhones.

Now, the bottomline. My bias opinion, go ahead and take the plunge. You will never regret owning any Apple product. As long as you can afford it.

Caveat emptor - Carrier IQ .... this is an issue newly brought up by some people in the hacker community. Android is badly affected... today's news is iOS up to 3.1.3 was affected... not sure about later versions. Windows Phone and Blackberry was not reported.. yet. Then again, this opens another fresh can of worms which is fit for a new thread.

I have also a battery drain issue with my iPhone 4s (32 GB). I have tested many combinations of settings. In the end this gives me the best battery life (left with 70% battery life after two nights and one day of light usage which means phone calls, text messages, listening music, browsing on WIFI and 3G):

- WIFI is always on

- Bluettoth is off

- cellular-data (a.k.a 3g) is most of the time off (I turn it on only when I need it and immediately I turn off when I do not need it, e.g. browsing when commuting)

- in Notification Center are only Messages, Phone, and Remindes (no Calendar!!!)

- Location services are ON for most of my apps (Camera, Compass, Find Friends, Maps, RunKeeper, Safari, etc.)

- Location Services -> System Services are all off

- Vibrate is on

- Brightness is on 30% (auto-brigthness is off)

- iCloud is off (except Find My iPhone)

- Fetch New Data is Off (for Mail, Contacts, Calendars) and Fetch is set on Manually and both my email accounts are set on Manual

- kill all apps and reboot the phone after all these settings are done

- kill all apps and reboot the phone in the evenings

My best guess what really makes a difference here is:

- "Calendar" not being in the "Notification Center",

- keeping the 3G off when I do not use it

- Location Services -> System Services off

- kill all apps and reboot the phone in the evenings

I agree that this is not the best way to use a smartphone but for now I am just trying to figure out what should I do with my iPhone considering the issues which it has.

P.S. I am wondering if the battery drain issue is connected to the static bug https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3393647?start=0&tstart=0 in any way?

Their is quite a lot of good suggestions here.

However myself and my team have investigated this issue and found that a smal trojan is sleaping inside of your ROM and when your device starts up the ROM terminal command startup tell iOS it is a priority to start this program up.

iOS relises that something is wrong and starts to frantically search and to try to stop it.

This is currently one of the only know iOS viruses.

If you guys believe me just ask and I will tell you our fix

miless wrote:

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Caveat emptor - Carrier IQ .... this is an issue newly brought up by some people in the hacker community. Android is badly affected... today's news is iOS up to 3.1.3 was affected... not sure about later versions. Windows Phone and Blackberry was not reported.. yet. Then again, this opens another fresh can of worms which is fit for a new thread.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/30/2601695/carrier-iq-controversy

Not all Android (not found on the Nexus for instance - tbc) but ouch, yes - tons. So happy I don't have a smartphone lolll. The situation on iOS is different, and evolving as we speak... most likely it is present in 4 and 5 now, but not active by default in 5 (http://blog.chpwn.com/post/13572216737 - turning off "diagnostics and usage" might undo it in 4 - TBC). In any case soon this will be cleaned up and Carrier IQ will be undone. The carriers should expect to reap lightning soon too - and it's going to hurt. Contrary to what you say, I believe because of the visibility of this thread, awareness can be raised by discussing it summarily here. Sure other threads will delve into the details...

Privacy is a very important concern for smartphone users.

Good luck!

Haha don't tell me I'll guess... Your team (the power rangers) will romve the virus for a nominal fee, you'll show up at my house each armed with bull s**t shovels and simply dig out the virus at source?? Was I close?

I noticed my battery life is improving everyday .. I didnt change any settings.. everything is turned on excpet bluetooth.

I have 2 mail accounts as well with fetching set to every 30 minutes....

I am happy now with my battery

Guys,

Good News!!! In fact Great News!!

After I did the "Reset phone settings" --> Battery drain to NIL --> Recharge to FULL --> + 2-3 hours of more recharge, I am getting a significantly HIGH improvement.

Almost 7 hours now on STANDBY and battery still at 100% (can't believe it... 🙂 🙂)

Earlier it was draining like 20-25 % in 4 hours.

This is huge improvement!! I think my battery problem is solved. 🙂 🙂

Keeping fingers crossed for some more time now...so to check if the battery works normally with the Wifi, location services, and other stuff.

(iPhone 4S 64 GB iOS 5.0.1)

1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

miless wrote:

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Caveat emptor - Carrier IQ .... this is an issue newly brought up by some people in the hacker community. Android is badly affected... today's news is iOS up to 3.1.3 was affected... not sure about later versions. Windows Phone and Blackberry was not reported.. yet. Then again, this opens another fresh can of worms which is fit for a new thread.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/30/2601695/carrier-iq-controversy

Not all Android (not found on the Nexus for instance - tbc) but ouch, yes - tons. So happy I don't have a smartphone lolll. The situation on iOS is different, and evolving as we speak... most likely it is present in 4 and 5 now, but not active by default in 5 (http://blog.chpwn.com/post/13572216737 - turning off "diagnostics and usage" might undo it in 4 - TBC). In any case soon this will be cleaned up and Carrier IQ will be undone. The carriers should expect to reap lightning soon too - and it's going to hurt. Contrary to what you say, I believe because of the visibility of this thread, awareness can be raised by discussing it summarily here. Sure other threads will delve into the details...

Privacy is a very important concern for smartphone users.

Good luck!

Seems that iOS 4 & 5 has it too.... i certainly notice awd in the diagnostics data when fiddling with the settings while trying to improve battery life. And i realize that once you set it to Send diagnostics data to Apple,... awd log files pop up almost every 2 hours. What does it contain? Well, tons of data which i didnt bother going thru. But i doubt it include my password, user id, keystrokes, browsing history, etc... but i'll never know. I set it to "dont send to Apple" now.

Windows Phone 7 seems to be the only platform where CIQ rootkit was not found. Blackberry, yes it's in there too. sigh......

Will we ever get our privacy ? I doubt so. I guess this CIQ rootkit is everywhere,... PCs, iPad, tablets, TVs, cable boxes, wireless routers, ...