Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

@zyfert

zyfert wrote:

 

I don't believe anyone is saying anyone else is crazy but there are opposing points of view.

In this instance I have to side with sbailey4.

I bought an iPhone 4S just before Xmas and I have no issues with it at all.

I have everything on except location services.

With normal usage, I get about 4 days battery life.

That is about 30 mins phone use per day, some SMS and MMS, a little web use, occasional email and using Siri for notes etc.

The battery drains at slightly less than 1% per hour.

Am I just lucky?

Are you on GSM or CDMA or EDGE or 3G network?

But also cost me money for the electricity :-)

Rather wait till work and plug into PC or charger! Free electricity!

I am very glad I searched and ended up on this forum.

My 4s is draining like crazy also and all those battery apps say turn off features in order to preserve the battery.

My phone was 100 % after being charged 4 hours ago and I just turned the phone on and I am happy to say it is still at 100 %.

Too bad I have to keep it off to acheive this though.

It drains fast though when on and if I use it at all, I need to charge it twice a day. I am glad some people here are able to get it to last for 4 days between charges. These phones have built in batteries so it is costly to recharge them so often they wear out prematurly.

Now that it appears that I too have a bad one, I try to get another one and hope for better luck!

Gregjon

1 e.g. your bacillus

2 e.g. the phone was dropped down without marks

3 e.g. the battery was charged too often (daily) by an old man

4 e.g. the phone was used by a person which works at very high or low temperature

5 e.g. because it's not a baby and you can produce more

6 e.g. you payed money for a new thing, refurbished one are cheaper on sell

7 e.g. it is not your fault

8 e.g. it is the commerical risk of the manufacturer

9 e.g. it is a normal wish and expectation

rphunte42 wrote:

 

Why?  It's not a baby, its a PHONE.  It is likely that they would have done a reset settings and data, anyway, so if you get a working phone, what's the problem?

 

Hotphil wrote:

 

megakai132 wrote:

 

I think a refurbished but it Looks New ;)

 

Just to put this comment into some perspective.....   APPLE recently announced that 37,000,000 iPhones were sold last quarter.   I'm guessing that a very high percentage of those sold, were 4s models.   While this thread may be one of the longest and most active ever in the APPLE forums, I'm not sure how enx23 has determined the validity of the claim below.   In my view, if the vast majority of 37,000,000 phones would not make it through a day or two, the world would be upside-down and this would be a MUCH larger media issue than it is.

My expectations are for the phone to make it through a day of moderate usage, with anything and everything that I use turned on.   In my case, the 4s delivers, except on those few days where I am away from wifi all day long.   For those days, I have my car charger and usb cable along with me.

Hopefully, iOS5.1 will bring SOME improvements in battery life along with it, but I'm not going to sweat this out, nor will I make wild claims that I cannot substantiate.   YES, I am a huge APPLE fan, with 2 iPhones, an iPAD, MACBOOK PRO and Time Machine in the family.   Everything syncs across devices, backs up transparently and never locks up, freezes, etc., etc..........    APPLE Products just work.   I won't apologize for being a fan and it'll take more than this hiccup to change me.  

enx23 wrote:

 

 

 

The vast majority of iPhone 4s are affected by the battery life issue and/or static noise issue!

Jameson, If you read back he provided a link to an article in a Korean newspaper that interviewed 10 people and 8 of those stated they had static and battery problems. (80%).  So yeah he is correct in that the vast majority of those 10 were effected and had the issues.

Jameson! wrote:

 

Just to put this comment into some perspective.....   APPLE recently announced that 37,000,000 iPhones were sold last quarter.   I'm guessing that a very high percentage of those sold, were 4s models.   While this thread may be one of the longest and most active ever in the APPLE forums, I'm not sure how enx23 has determined the validity of the claim below.   In my view, if the vast majority of 37,000,000 phones would not make it through a day or two, the world would be upside-down and this would be a MUCH larger media issue than it is.

 

My expectations are for the phone to make it through a day of moderate usage, with anything and everything that I use turned on.   In my case, the 4s delivers, except on those few days where I am away from wifi all day long.   For those days, I have my car charger and usb cable along with me.

 

Hopefully, iOS5.1 will bring SOME improvements in battery life along with it, but I'm not going to sweat this out, nor will I make wild claims that I cannot substantiate.   YES, I am a huge APPLE fan, with 2 iPhones, an iPAD, MACBOOK PRO and Time Machine in the family.   Everything syncs across devices, backs up transparently and never locks up, freezes, etc., etc..........    APPLE Products just work.   I won't apologize for being a fan and it'll take more than this hiccup to change me.  

enx23 wrote:

 

 

 

The vast majority of iPhone 4s are affected by the battery life issue and/or static noise issue!

@Jameson!

Jameson! wrote:

 

Just to put this comment into some perspective.....   APPLE recently announced that 37,000,000 iPhones were sold last quarter.

I agree that Apple sold 37 millions iPhones in the last quarter.

I'm guessing that a very high percentage of those sold, were 4s models.

I guess that is around 80% of those being iPhone 4s.

While this thread may be one of the longest and most active ever in the APPLE forums,

Maybe this is this a sign of iPhone 4s being the iPhone with the shorted battery life ever! Right?

I'm not sure how enx23 has determined the validity of the claim below.

I claim that ~80% of iPhone 4s are affected by the battery life issue and/or static noise issue! I have stated several times here (newspapers, links, etc.) how I reached to those numbers. This is my estimation and I look forward for people (and not Apple) trying to come up with better estimations than my numbers. Also, I challenge one to prove that my estimated numbers are wrong! It is very easy for one just to say "this is not true" or "only Apple can do that" and provide no numbers.

In my view, if the vast majority of 37,000,000 phones would not make it through a day or two, the world would be upside-down and this would be a MUCH larger media issue than it is.

There are boycots aimed at Apple, Apple got slapped with 1.2 million euros fine in Italy for bad customer practices, Apple got eggs thrown at its stores in China, Apple customers start to not be happy with the working conditions of workers which make the iPhones/iPads/iPods, etc. Apple's image lately is a PR disaster. Do not worry because more is coming!

The thing is that the battery life issue of iPhone 4s appears only when uses the iPhone 4s on 3G networks and/or Cellular data. This means that if the faulty chipset which is responsible for 3G is not used then there is no battery life issue. A big part of iPhone 4s owners are leaving in countries/regions where there are no 3G networks and they use 2G networks. There is no battery life issue if iPhone 4s is used on 2G network. This is why Apple even put back the 3G/2G toggle. Also it looks like also the iPhone 4s if it used on CDMA network with 3G will not have a batter life issue. Because of these reasons one sees all the time the claims "the battery life of me iPhone 4s is fine!". Shortly, if one uses his/her iPhone 4s on a 2G network (most likely he or she is not even aware of this fact) will have no battery life issue but immediately will have the battery life issue if he or she moves to a 3G network!

My expectations are for the phone to make it through a day of moderate usage, with anything and everything that I use turned on.

I am happy for you that you are happy with your iPhone 4s.

In my opinion a smartphone should last at least 2 days of moderate use so if one forgets to charge it one night then one will have the chance to charge it next night. Also the specifications of iPhone 4s should be according to the real battery life! Let's say that if I would be selling a car for which I am saying that its consumption is 6 liters/100 km and in real life the consuption is 33 liters/100 km I would end up in jail (33 liters => 200 hours; 6 liters => 36 hours)l!!!

Shortly, the battery life of iPhone 4s in real life is ~18% of what is stated in the specification!!!

For those days, I have my car charger and usb cable along with me.

I am leaving in Europe, and here it is more common to commute by train/metro/tram/bus than using a personal car like in USA. This means that there is no opportunity to charge a mobile phones while one is commuting.

I don't know the number and never claimed to know it, unlike you, who seems to believe you have proven your 80% claim.   My only point is that with 37,000,000 sold last quarter, your 80% claim would put just under 30,000,000 problematic phones out there in the world.   My gut tells me that if the number were anywhere near that high, APPLE's problems would be MUCH begger than they are and this would be a much bigger story.

enx23 wrote:

 

Also, I challenge one to prove my estimated numbers wrong! It is very easy for one just to say "this is not true" or "only Apple can do that" and do nothing.

 

 

@Jameson!

Jameson! wrote:

 

I don't know the number and never claimed to know it, unlike you, who seems to believe you have proven your 80% claim.   My only point is that with 37,000,000 sold last quarter, your 80% claim would put just under 30,000,000 problematic phones out there in the world.   My gut tells me that if the number were anywhere near that high, APPLE's problems would be MUCH begger than they are and this would be a much bigger story.

Most of the iPhone 4s owners are not on 3G (UMTS) networks so this is why they do not have/report any battery life issue!!!! The battery life issue of iPhone 4s appears only and only if it is used on 3G networks with Cellular Data!!! If all the owners of iPhone 4s would be using 3G networks and cellular data instead of 2G networks then Apple would have had recall all the iPhone 4s.

Another claim that you cannot substantiate.......  

enx23 wrote:

 

 

Most of the iPhone 4s owners are not on 3G (UMTS) networks so this is why they do not have/report any battery life issue!!!! 

@Jameson!

Jameson! wrote:

 

Another claim that you cannot substantiate....... 

Yes, I can! It is well known that the culprit is the Qualcomm chipset MDM6610 which is used only in iPhone 4s! This chipset is the first one to combine CDMA and GSM/UMTS capabilities and gives the unique feature of iPhone 4s being a "world-wide phone"!!! Also it is known that this the chipset which has the arcing and which produces the static noise when 3G (UMTS) networks are used with Cellular data. Being the first chipset of its kind to join these two capabilities might explain its "childhood diseases".

@Jameson!

Jameson! wrote:

 

Another claim that you cannot substantiate.......  

enx23 wrote:

 

 

Most of the iPhone 4s owners are not on 3G (UMTS) networks so this is why they do not have/report any battery life issue!!!!

Also it is known fact that there are a lot more 2G networks than 3G networks!!!!

Also, it is known fact that if one uses iPhone 4s in airplane mode or without a SIM card then one will get easily 6-7 days of battery life!

It is also known that if I turn my phone off, battery life is indefineite.   Here's what I DO know........

In all of your posts above, you use the words "MOST", "LOT MORE", to justify your 80% claims, then tell the rest of us we need to provide evidence to refute your numbers.   I admit to having no idea of what the numbers of problematic phones truly are and I also claim that you really have no idea either!   The odds of you having any real facts are pretty darn slim..........   JMHO

@Jameson!

The odds of you having any real facts are pretty darn slim! (note: this is copy and pasted from you but I am using here to answer to you!)

I admit to having no idea of what the numbers of problematic phones truly are and I also claim that you really have no idea either!

Great! You basically are saying that because YOU do not have any idea then it means that nobody has any idea either!

Ummmm......   No!   I'm saying that YOU very likely have no idea either.   I'm sure someone more closely aligned with APPLE has a very good idea of what the real numbers are.    I admit that I have no idea of the exact numbers involved.   YOU seem to have a real problem admitting the same.........   YOU apparently believe that if YOU make enough repetitively vague statements, with no real facts on the issue, everyone should simply believe you.......

It's like telling lies.......   If a liar tells the same lies enough times, they can actually come to believe it themselves.   Know what I mean?????