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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by Nutes,

    Nutes Nutes Oct 26, 2011 11:19 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:19 AM in response to Scarface.

    I will try the reset for network settings.  However, I think there is an issue with YAHOO Mail.  I've been having many problems with Yahoo mail trying to send or receive emails (which is draining the battery).  It's happening not only on my iPhone 4S but on my MacBook Pro.  In safari Yahoo Mail crashes everytime.  It has forced me to start using FireFox on my Mac.  It doesn't crash in FireFox.  I have deleted my Yahoo mail from my iPhone 4S and it seemed to slow down my battery usage dramatically!  I hope Apple puts out this fire quickly.  I need my battery life and don't want to sacrafice anything (ie. changing my mail account, changing icloud, or general settings that are standard).

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Oct 26, 2011 11:20 AM in response to sturtevant77
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:20 AM in response to sturtevant77

    This has been suggested a number of times in this thread and also on other web sites, but it's hard to find among all of the whining. I'm really glad it worked for you; this has always been one of the ways to fix battery drain problems in other phones and other iOS versions. Macworld even had an article on why it works.

  • by tannercrab,

    tannercrab tannercrab Oct 26, 2011 11:21 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:21 AM in response to Scarface.

    Woohoo!!  I fixed it.  I did the reset all settings function and everything is now back to normal.  Check out this blog post for instructions.

     

    http://speakspress.net/miscellany/an-unbiased-review-of-the-iphone-4s-or-how-i-f ixed-my-poor-battery-performance-life/

     

    I didn't even have to change any settings like disabling location services etc... after doing this trick.  My battery is now lasting like my old iphone, if not better.  Before this I was draining 4% an hour in standby mode.  After resetting all settings I haven't even gone down 1% in the last hour of standby.

  • by drewt1,

    drewt1 drewt1 Oct 26, 2011 11:26 AM in response to sturtevant77
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:26 AM in response to sturtevant77

    OK BEEN ON THESE FORUMS SINCE DAY 1 OF 4S DEBUT AND EXPERIENCED THE BAD BATTERY ON SEVERAL PHONES, SEVERAL SCENARIOS (kids phones too)

     

    I think it is something in the sync in itunes, and using the settings/general/about/diagnostics&usage/diagnostic & Usage data/ really shows you what's going on. Prior to my last successful step, this log showed all kinds of errors.

     

    I finally reluctantly restored on itunes and set up as a new device, and I didn't even let it SYNC MAIL account or anything other than songs. After the restore I manually entered my gmail and mobile me settings on the phone. (I have not moved to icloud but still had the battery issues without it)

     

    THAT DID IT. No heating issues, battery doesn't go down on standby, lasts like the iphone4 did all day.

     

    Yes there is a bug in the sync, and restoring (which resets network and everything) can address the issue. Since there are so many successful reset stories, there is something in the way we used to work/sync that is imcompatible!!

     

    And to those syncing for the first time, (Iphone Freshman) limit what itunes syncs and set up your mail manually on the phone

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Oct 26, 2011 11:33 AM in response to Nutes
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:33 AM in response to Nutes

    If the problem is Yahoo mail Apple can't do anything about it, Yahoo has to.

  • by Dustpile,

    Dustpile Dustpile Oct 26, 2011 11:36 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:36 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    Forget Yahoo mail, exchange, icloud or whatever....  They are all using network settings that I bet have been restored from backup when people got their new iPhones.

     

     

    Setting --> General --->  Reset --->  "RESET NETWORK SETTING"

     

    I'm sure it will fix them all.  If it works, please let others know, of not say so.  I'm sure Apple has enough informaiton to address this. Just want to make it easier for others to find this fix if it is a fix and not have to read through hundreds of messages.  If this works, please say so.

     

    Setting --> General --->  Reset --->  "RESET NETWORK SETTING"

  • by coloradoappleuser,

    coloradoappleuser coloradoappleuser Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM in response to Dustpile
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM in response to Dustpile

    Did this a few days ago--didn't help anything.

  • by mollib,

    mollib mollib Oct 26, 2011 11:45 AM in response to Dustpile
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:45 AM in response to Dustpile

    So, I just did Reset Network Settings 20 minutes ago. I wasn't having the all-out-crazy battery drain some people are having, but it's definitely been on the higher side of normal.

     

    But since I did that, I've lost 5% of my battery in standby, which is about 3x worse than what it was. Also, my CPU is freaking out and my system log is filled with memory warnings. Maybe it just takes some time for things to settle down?

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Oct 26, 2011 11:46 AM in response to Dustpile
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:46 AM in response to Dustpile

    I'm really happy that fixed it FOR YOU. But battery problems are a symptom, not the underlying problem. Reset Network Settings has been a recommended step to fix battery problems for over 4 years, with every phone model and every version of iOS. And it fixes battery drain for some people, BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE. It is only one of the tools for resolving this issue. Many of the others are buried among the messages in this thread. But I agree it is the first one to try, as it is easy and the only thing it does that affects the user is you will have to re-enter WiFi passcodes.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Oct 26, 2011 11:59 AM in response to mollib
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:59 AM in response to mollib

    If you are getting memory warnings it is time to reboot. FIRST hold the SLEEP button until a slider appears, then slide to power off. After the circle stops twirling hold HOME and SLEEP until an Apple logo appears. You will not lose any data or settings. This will probably also help your battery issue.

  • by mollib,

    mollib mollib Oct 26, 2011 12:10 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Oct 26, 2011 12:10 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    Yeah, it rebooted itself after I reset network settings, and then I rebooted it again myself about 20 minutes ago, hoping that would help. I've lost another 5% and I'm still getting memory warnings. I guess my phone didn't really like resetting the network stuff Hopefully she'll calm down shortly.

     

    Thanks!

  • by prk60091,

    prk60091 prk60091 Oct 26, 2011 12:21 PM in response to sturtevant77
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    Oct 26, 2011 12:21 PM in response to sturtevant77

    i was rolling along aok this morning until i received an imessage and then phone got hot battery started to burn

     

    i shut the phone off for a minute or two and i stopped the battery burn - it sure beats resetting network settings evry day

  • by bleepingApple,

    bleepingApple bleepingApple Oct 26, 2011 12:32 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Oct 26, 2011 12:32 PM in response to Scarface.
    • iPone 4s 64gb black. On 02 in UK. In London [England, for those accross the pond]
    • Upgraded from 3Gs. Used back-up of that device to get new phone up and running via PC USB and iTunes
    • Running latest iTunes 10 on Windows 7.

     

     

     

    I noticed early on that the new 4s was draining way more quickly than my 3Gs that was 2.5yrs old. I started to look more carefully and, by yesterday morning, I was losing about 15% per hour and not using the thing very much. I'm freelance so I don't have a pattern to my work and I have to be careful not to jump to conclusions here: it's easy for the variables of use to be a big factor in my perception of this battery drain. What I can say is that the 3Gs certainly didn't need a top up by lunchtime each day!

     

    I've read all 68 pages here. I can confirm that much of what folk are  suggesting we turn off was already off in my case. Hopefully this helps  narrow down certain fixes for some of you. Here's what was not a factor for me:

    • iCloud: already OFF
    • Diagnostics: already OFF
    • VPN: already OFF
    • Bluetooth: already OFF
    • Hotspot: already OFF

     

    I did have the following though:

    • 3 e-mail accounts. 2x POP; 1x Exchange [Google]
    • Location Services: ALL ON
    • Siri: ON with all whistles and bells
    • Brightness: 60% ish [Auto-Brightness: ON]
    • Mobile Data: ON
    • Wifi: ON all of the time, whether hooked up or not. I found with my 3Gs that turning it off made no real battery difference in my world.

     

    So I read all the pages here and decided to do some of the common things suggested:

    1. I limited location services to just Compass on System settings but let all apps have access. I turned on the little icon dart thingy and I can see location comes on very rarely.
    2. I deleted all my email accounts and then reinstated them
    3. I deleted all my Network Settings. About time I did really, if only for security.
    4. I took Siri off waiting for me to put it to my ear but kept the core feature on. [Siri is bobbins, by the way, so I might dump it altogether...]

    I did the above and didn't really notice very much improvement, if any.

     

    I then found the post that linked to this:

    http://speakspress.net/miscellany/an-unbiased-review-of-the-iphone-4s-or-how-i-f ixed-my-poor-battery-performance-life/

    [Thanks to that poster, it was a really useful]

     

    To save you reading it all, the bottom line was that is suggests resetting all settings. [Settings>General>Reset>RESET ALL SETTINGS]

    The advantage here is that all your data is preserved but all other user choices revert to factory default. It only takes a couple of minutes to put it all back.

     

    Today I took the thing off charge at 09:00 today and noticed through the morning that I was seeing much more expected battery readings. It is now 19:30 and I'm on 38%. Yesterday I was on that by 15:00. Today I've made several calls; listened to at least 1.5hrs podcast; been in and out of Wifi signal; sent and received about 20 emails; used a map; read the news on BBC app and I've been in and out of good and poor reception all day. Basically I've hammered my phone as I always do.

     

    Now, I still think that on my 3Gs I would have 50% at this point in the same parallel day, but naturally I can't prove that...

     

    So If I were you and you don't fancy wiping the thing completely, I'd try the settings reset first and see how it works for you.

     

    In general I'm not seeing many clear patterns in this whole saga by reading all the posts so far. For some a fix like mine works well, for others location, iCloud, wifi sync, Siri etc all seem to give results. For others too, the whole clear-it-out-and-load-it-all-up-again seems to work well. Also we have to assume that many users of the 4 million or so handsets sold are not seeing this issue at all, and that fact should be born in mind as it shows it is unlikely to be as basic as a major hardware flaw. Equally those that have had exchanges aren't all that happy still. I take some encouragement from that alone.

     

    To my mind I think were looking at basic iOS and 3rd party software issues and I think each fix suggested here, and all over the wibbly-wobbly-way, does something towards a better battery life. I also think that until all apps get a full iOS5 compatibility update, each might leak a bit, with some probably noticeably worse than others. [E.g, FMF seems a culprit. As I don't have it I can't test with that on or off but it crops up on this thread many times]. So some of us might be unlucky enough to have all the bad eggs, while others only have apps that are working well in the new OS. I also suspect that the OS itself is probably in need of a bit of tightening. I can't fault Apple here: they need 4million phones in proper use before they can see all the glitches on all the networks in all the diverse a hands that this device gets put. You may not agree and that's fine.

     

    Lastly, I do remember that my 3Gs was a little rubbish at the very beginning. Lithium batteries do need breaking in and heavy use and full charges do help them settle into life. And no doubt Apple snuck a few memory leak bungs into the early updates, all that time ago.

     

    Personally, having got myself from 15% drainage an hour down to just 5%, I'm happy enough to see what happens in the next few weeks. Developers will issue updates to apps, Apple will no doubt have an iOS5.1 out and my battery will have had a couple of months to bed in. If it's no better by then, that's when I'll get down to the 'Genius Bar' and start making a stink.

     

    The hardest problem to fix is one with many causes and that's what we're surely seeing here. However, those that feel this isn't good enough should certainly exercise their consumer rights and demand attention, refunds or exchanges. Those squeaky wheels will help us all get oiled in time. Whatever works for you, well, works for you... So good luck.

     

     

     


     

    Message was edited by: bleepingApple [edited a few silly misteaks]

  • by rs1n,

    rs1n rs1n Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    Lawrence Finch wrote:

     

    If you are getting memory warnings it is time to reboot. FIRST hold the SLEEP button until a slider appears, then slide to power off. After the circle stops twirling hold HOME and SLEEP until an Apple logo appears. You will not lose any data or settings. This will probably also help your battery issue.

    I wish more people would actually try this. It's really no different from rebooting your computer when something goes awry.

     

    That said, I wish that there was an option to prevent my iPhone from automatically trying to set up a hotspot. I know for sure that I have not set anything up with my carrier, but my iPhone keeps insisting on checking every so often. The only way I can disable it is to turn off my data carrier's connection altogether, which isn't an option for me.

  • by prk60091,

    prk60091 prk60091 Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM in response to Dustpile
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    Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM in response to Dustpile

    RESET NETWORK SETTINGS AND RESET ALL are just temporary fixes....

    something is polling the phone continuously and it is network  or chip related (who knows icloud/siri/imessage) it is something and until Apple figures out exactly what the issue is- they can't fix it...

    i am sure (based on the reports of people being asked by Apple to download an app to log the usage) Apple will have a fix sooner or later and it will be fixable by software (either an update on their side) or an update rolled out to us

     

    as I posted yesterday chill....nothing we can do to fix it

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