Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

dkalchev: they just keep repeating the very same posts with little alteration no matter what others are saying, that's why they most like are paid in order to flame and entice people to Android. Better ignore them.

@dkalchev

 

I am even more confident now that you have no clue what you talk about.

I do not answer to personal attacks! Here I discuss about statement made by me and other persons! One should keep out of discussion things like "you have not idea", "you have low IQ", "you need a license to own a iPhone", etc. It is very easy for one to judge here people but again this forum is about batter life issue of iPhone 4s and it is not about saying to people who post here that "you have no clue"!

How have you confirmed that the issue with applications running in background and draining the battery is a hardware problem, that is, related to that Qualcomm chip?

Yes, it is confirmed that the Qualcomm chipset MDM6610 is the one handling the 3G networks and data transfer and the one which produces the static noise! Of course if there is a hardware issue when transferring data this issue will affect the apps which are using the internet connection and because of it the apps will hang and crash. Killing the apps will not help because the next time when you will run the apps they will crash because of the hardware issue!!!! Here is a vicious circle which cannot be fixed with software updates!

 

Unless you prove your claims, you are spreding FUD!

 

Unless you prove your claims, you are spreding FUD! (note: copy and paster from you)!

 

Go ahead, be as technical as you can. I can handle it. Mind you, my profession requires me to deal with all sort of schematics, hardware AND software.

 

Here is not the place to measure the length of our d***s! This is a forum about the battery life of iPhone 4s! Anyway I have a higher degree than you in case that you are interested in!

 

PS: I tried to reproduce your 'static noise' phenomenon, but apparently either:

- My phone is of the rare species that does not have this hardware problem.

- My GSM operator is better than Verizon or wherever people experience this 'hardware' problem.

- I can't apparently find quiet enough place to hear this 'static noise'.

- You are barking at the wrong tree.

 

Also please exaplain why if I did not have this 'static noise' phenomena I still had short battery life, until I got rid of the background tasks?

EXPLANATION: As I wrote many time ~80% of the iPhone 4s are affected by the static noise issue. You are probably in the 20% case which are not affected by the static noise issue!

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enx23 wrote:

 

Anyway I have a higher degree than you in case that you are interested in!

Good for you But I am not interested. I was hoping that you may provide some facts.

@dkalchev

I have posted here links to the facts regarding the iPhone 4s issues but one ignores them happily!

Also, please provide facts for your claims!

ClayG wrote:

 

I have to say, though, that my iPhone 4 (which was replaced just like week with a 4S) did take a big hit in battery life when it was updated to iOS 5.

It added many (about 200) new features.  Some of them, like iCloud can be a source for higher battery drain.  So it comes as no surprise that more battery power is used until the user adjusts the features to his/her needs.  Initially, when I installed IOS 5 on my wife's 3GS, battery life was much shorter than she had experienced, but after I went through the settings, and turned off a lot of stuff that was defaulted to on, that she wouldn't use, battery life returned to about 90% of what it had been before.  I would say that was a fair trade for the new features she DOES use.

Syafiq Roos wrote:

 

just go to Settings --> Location Services --> System Services --> turn off Setting Time Zone. Done. Let me know if it works (battery drain decrease 40-50%). If the answer is yes, spread it. Next software update for ios5 maybe on March.

Better yet, turn ALL OF THEM off.  Only the time zone thing is really useful, and then only if you cross time zones in the course of your day.  The rest just collect data for Apple to use.

enx23 wrote:

 

@Syafiq Roos

 

 

Syafiq Roos wrote:

 

just go to Settings --> Location Services --> System Services --> turn off Setting Time Zone. Done. Let me know if it works (battery drain decrease 40-50%). If the answer is yes, spread it. Next software update for ios5 maybe on March.

This does not fix the battery life issue of iPhone 4s which is a hardware issue. This has been mentioned on this forum at least 50 times!

Yes, but YOU.  And it isn't any more of a general solution than turning off 'setting time zone'.  Some people have other problems.  Some are software settings, some relate to SIM problems, some are hardware problems, some are just unreasonable expectations.

attaax wrote:

 

 

I do this already, but nothing works, how do I replace, the worst thing is that there is no apple store in Saudi Arabia,

How can I make replacement ? ?

 

You bought it from someone, somewhere.  Start there.

Pavan Kulkarni wrote:

 

Mine's kind of same....I got my phone replaced which did good on standby....It stayed on 100 for 6 hrs and dropped 1 percent every 2 hrs from 99 but the usage drain was too heavy on the phone....So got it replaced and my new phone is giving the same....it stays on 100 few hours and drops 1 percent every 2 hrs....The phone is working fine....I just have that no audio problem on call and on call, the battery drops little too quickly......Actually, on usage the phone is according to the specs....but quite close....

You are complaining about 1 percent drop every 2 hours?  What do you want?  A perpetual motion machine?  The specs say up to 200 hours standby, and that's what you are getting.  Rejoice! Sing praises to whatever diety you favor!  You are doing better than ANYONE on here.

Duckgirl722 wrote:

 

I wish they would make iOS 5.1 beta 3 available to those who are experiencing the battery drain, or at least just a temporary fix that involves the fixes for battery life. I don't want any new features, I just want my phone to not be plugged to a charger once in a while.

 

Also I think you guys should stop fighting and being mean just because you don't agree with each other. We should all just be calm and helpful and nice, because we're all just trying to help

Hey!  I want the new features.  It seems to me that 5.1 being at beta 3 for several weeks indicates that it should be released by now.  Not a problem here, but I really would like to be able to delete PhotoStream images.

EdiMC wrote:

 

- Had the two builds installed (405 and 406) and made no difference - Usage time is always going up, even if I don't touch the phone;

- Added my contacts ONE BY ONE, from scratch;

- Did an experiment without the SIM Card - the battery lasted for 6 days!

- Only have the native apps of the builds installed...

 

Man, you name it...by now, I've given up!! I'm only waiting to see if the 5.1 will make it better (or not)...if it stays the same, I'll activate warranty...

Hummm.  Without SIM card you get 6 days, with it battery drains quickly.  Does someone need to hit you upside the head to get your attention.  GET A NEW SIM!  Even if they make you pay for it, they are about $10 around here.

EdiMC wrote:

 

dkalchev wrote:

 

EdiMC:

 

Thing is, if you have very high Usage time compared to Standby time, then something IS running in background on your iPhone. There can be no other reasons.

 

What happens if you Restore the phone to defaults and don't install anything -- just charge it and let is stay few hours? Do you still see large Usage time?

 

If yes, you may have ghost in your device and should return it, except if you like ghosts, that is.

 

Yep. 20minutes after the resets, with the phone staying still on a desk, I get something like this:

Waiting time: 20minutes

Usage Time: 16 minutes.

 

I don't know what it is!

Yesterday, in about an hour, I lost about 10%...it's not linear, sometimes it stops counting, and the battery drain stopps a little bit.

But, without touching the phone, then it goes again!! Usage time going up, battery level going down!!

 

Going crazy with this!!

Try the reset all settings and data, then SYNC (not restore) to get your data back.  If that doesn't solve the 'phantom usage' problem, then return to the store where you bought the iPhone, or your carrier's store, and request a new SIM card.

enx23 wrote:

 

@dkalchev

 

 

Please stop spreading FUD!

 

One should first stop himself spreading FUD by pretending that the vast majority of iPhone 4s are not affected by the battery life issues! The battery life issues of iPhone 4s are due to the faulty Qualcomm chipset MDM6610 which produces also the static noise and also draws more energy when using the UMTS networks than it was designed!

 

 

You seem to have absolutely no clue what you talk about, especially the 'static noise' you keep throwing in here.

The static noise issue is a proven fact of iPhone 4s and it affects 80% of iPhone 4s!!!

 

Please, also prove your statement that I have not clue!

 

Check it out here:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3393647?start=810&tstart=0

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2123488/users-furious-iphone-4s-static- bug

 

By the way, did you check your iPhone 4s for the static noise issue?

Do you know what a 'one trick pony' is?  Look in mirror.

If you think ALL the problems people have with battery life are due to a single cause, you aren't as smart as I think you are (and that's saying something).  I am beginning to think you work for Google.

rphunte42 - Sure, new features would be cool... but then for unfortunate people like me, it would be cool to just be able to open the iPhone and not groan at how much the battery has dropped while just sitting there. :-/