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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM in response to zSkeptic
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    Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM in response to zSkeptic

    @zSkeptic

     

     

    zSkeptic wrote:

     

    This will not be a popular opinion on this forum but I do not agree that Apple is wrong on being silent on this battery issue.

    I respect your opinion even that I do not agree fully with you.

     

     

    Apple is a publicly traded company and it's allegiance is ultimately to its shareholders.  This means there are going to be times where they have to make hard business decisions that may include some compromises in customer service levels.  As an example, let's assume that Apple has estimated that one percent (350,000 phones) of 4S customers are affected by poor battery life.

    350 000 phones is quite low number in my opinion. This forum has over one million views! I would say that 66% of this views are iPhone 4s with battery life issues.

     

     

    Let's also assume that  5.0.1, resets, restores, etc. addresses the main drainage for two-thirds of this population (I fall into this category). Then you are left one-third of one percent of users who have a long-term or serious problem phone.

    iOS 5.0.1 did not fix the battery life issue for anyone. iOS 5.0.1 fixed only the SIM issues.

    I would say iOS 5.0.1, resets, restores,.. addresss less that 20% of the main drainage issue.

     

    I can understand why Apple may not issue a public statement because they have determined it may cause unnecessary panic, returns and customer services loads on their stores and phone lines.

    Yes, but this is done at the expense of its customers.

     

     

    I work in operations for a Fortune 500 medical device company and this is exactly how we deal with known defects and problems.  Unless the problem will affect the safety and health of the patient or is mandated by a regulatory agency such as the FDA, how we address and communicate product issues becomes a judgement call.

    Selling medicine and drugs is regulated by FDA and the rules are really tough! The clinical trials and the patients information is handled with a great care! Medical device company is totally different that mobile phone companies! The rules are totally different and I would not put them in the same box.

     

    Unless the problem will affect the safety and health of the patient or is mandated by a regulatory agency such as the FDA, how we address and communicate product issues becomes a judgement call.

    If Apple would have to follow the FDA regulations would not have gotten the approval to for its iPhone 4s to begin with! I know that iPhone 4s is not a drug or medical device so I think that this is not the best comparison (Apple and FDA).

     

     

    I am not saying this is right and some consumers will get the short end of the stick but I can understand why Apple has chosen the silent path.

    I do not understand why Apple has chosen the silent path. One should look to Nokia example! Nokia once was a great company and ruled the world of mobile phones and invented the smart phone and over night is going falling like a rock to the bottom of the sea. I think that if Apple repeat its stunt with crappy battery life with iPhone 5 then we will see Apple selling apples instead of phones. The consumers made Apple great and consumers will bring Apple down!

     

     

    The fact that mainstream media has not published any stories in the past few months tends to support my position.

    For now Apple is king of the hill and media is polishing Apple's image. Apple should know that it needs to make its customers happy and it should not confuse its customers with its subcontractors' workers!

    Where I do fault Apple is the training and consistency of support at their stores and service lines.  From what I have read, some users have been treated well and have been given exchanges even outside of the normal policy window.  Other customers have recieved poor responses bordering on mistreatment (especially from so called Geniuses) and saracasm.  This is an area that I find unacceptable.  If a customer truly has a problem phone that cannot be fixed, Apple needs a more effective system in place to support these situations.

    I agree with you on this.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM in response to susanaz
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    Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM in response to susanaz

    Excellent news! I am glad it helped.

    susanaz wrote:

     

    It Works!!!!

    This process really improved my battery life, I was about to exchange my phone before I did it.

    Now my battery last ALL DAY I even play games.

    Thanks Davidch

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM in response to Duckgirl722
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    Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM in response to Duckgirl722

    @Duckgirl722

     

     

    Duckgirl722 wrote:

     

    O______O Ok, I'm super surprised... After a full charge cycle this morning, 70% battery now with 9 hours, 23 minutes Standby and 47 minutes Usage. Not the best but wow, definitely much better. I wonder what happened O_O

    I do not want to disappoint you but the battery life issue will return soon! Ussualy it comes back in less that 2 days.

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM in response to Faragondk
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    Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM in response to Faragondk

    @Faragondk

     

     

    Faragondk wrote:

     

    Have you tried to get a new SIM card for your iPhone?

    I have tried everything. I even got a new SIM especially for my iPhone 4s from my carrier.

    The battery life issue of iPhone 4s is a hardware issue and the software updates, resets, etc. do not help.

     

     

    I can get 3 days on standby, and 6.5 hours use.

    You get 3 days! Wawww... I guess that you are keeping most of the time Cellular Data off.

     

    more than 3 bars reception,

    I get most of the time 5 bar reception because here where I live the coverage is excellent. All I am saying is that compared to other phones which I had/have there are places where I get less coverage bards on my iPhone 4s than I get one other mobile phones! Somehow it looks like iPhone 4s is not that good with getting the coverage compared with other mobile phones.

     

     

    I still have the static noise issue, and I hate that,

    Sorry to hear that.

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 11:02 AM in response to Jameson!
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:02 AM in response to Jameson!

    @Jameson!

     

     

    Jameson! wrote:

     

    enx23,

     

    Did the iPhone 4 meet it's claimed battery life of 300hrs standby?

    If you mean by 300 the 300,000 hours then the answer is no. In real life the iPhone 4 gets ussually 3-4 days with light/moderate usage which is ~33% of what is claimed! If I compare to iPhone 4s then one gets  ~18% of what is claimed. All I am saying is that iPhone 4s is the worst at lying among all mobile phone regarding its battery life and should get the first prize for the "worst lier"! With Nokia phones one gets around ~50% of what is claimed in specification. But come on.... 18% of iPhone 4s... is way to big lie....

     

     

     

    Standby claims are totally useless, IMO.   Much the same as Highway MPG ratings used to be with car companies.

    Really?

     

    So if you buy a car and you are told that the car should get 50 MPG and in realife would get 9 MPG (which is 18% from 50) would you still keep the car? Is not the difference between 50MPG and 9 MPG too much?

  • by Kiasportwagon,

    Kiasportwagon Kiasportwagon Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM in response to Scarface.

    My phone was charged to 100% last night. Did not use it and went to bed.

    In the morning the battery was down to 78% (7 hour sleep) and stats shows that i hade used it for 6 hours to, !!!!! What tha fuc.......!!!! Wy is my phone working behind my back?

     

     

    Somethings is fuc... wrong. My friend did charge hid phonre ladt night, when we compared, he hade 95% lelft i hade 65%, whata fuc......!!!!! This is pretty ******* bad.

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM in response to Jameson!
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM in response to Jameson!

    @Jameson!

     

     

    Jameson! wrote:

     

    I hear you enx23 and empathize with you, I really do.   That being said, as you say, you are now stuck with the phone for the time being. 

    Thanks!

     

     

     

    Rather than dumb the phone down, why not carry a car charger and usb charger to charge it at each opportunity?   This way, you can keep the features on that will allow you to get the most out of the phone. 

    First, I live in a city where is more convinient to go by metro. So I cannot charge a phone in the metro or in the bus. Also I move all the time and I need the phone to me. This is why I bought a mobile phone.

     

    What is the point of having a mobile phone if I have to carry with me its cable with me?

    Also I would have wanted to be informed before I bought the iPhone 4s that iPhone 4s is that king of landphone (sarcasm) which one needs to carry the charger and charge it at every sinble oportunity. Then I would have chosen a different mobile phone

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 11:09 AM in response to Duckgirl722
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:09 AM in response to Duckgirl722

    @Duckgirl722

     

     

    Duckgirl722 wrote:

     

    Ignoring the people who are taking this too personally

     

    Can anyone recommend a good battery management app that will tell me more accurately how much battery I have left? The indicator seems to be super wrong on my iPhone - it stays on 100% for like two hours and then when it drops to 99%, it drains 5% per hour from there.

    I guess that the best application for this is pen and paper. One could write on paper the time and the battery indicatications every hour and draw a curve. This curve would allow to see/predict how much battery life you have left.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM in response to enx23
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM in response to enx23

    OMG you are so clueless!   Duckgirl Ignore him. 75% of these pages are his unsubstainted rants and "facts" about 10 versions of iOS that have all and forever will have problems (eventhough one of his most recent posts he admitted he ONLY updated from 5.0 to 5.0.1),  80% of iPhones dont work, NO ONE got resolution with 5.0.1 (totally false as I know for a fact 100%). No resets or restores have fixed anyone, again completely false. On and own with completely false posts and FUD as another user posted. Of course you dont need me to tell you this. Simply click on his name and see all the posts he has made. (well you only really need to read one because all 7000 say the same thing) "Dooms day, return your iPhone, its a faulty chip, all faulty hardware, all 10 versions of iOS even when merely an idea in Steves head has battery issues, run, hide, crawl under a rock, the sky is falling."

     

    <sigh>

     

    I know Appleaday, I thought I was gone LOL but you have to admit, a few here are totally entertaining! 

     

    Betty: "I went outside and it was raining and I got wet."

    enx23: "No you didnt, the qualcom chip had enough heat and static that it kept you dry, you only THINK you got wet because all the chips have static and heat and will keep everyone dry if they go in the rain. Dont believe what you see or feel, believe what I tell you. Dont be happy your iPhone is now working, look for any possible reason to complain about it because 5 years from now the battery wont be new like it is now then what will you do?"

     

     

    enx23 wrote:

     

    I do not want to disappoint you but the battery life issue will return soon! Ussualy it comes back in less that 2 days.

     

    Duckgirl722 wrote:

     

    O______O Ok, I'm super surprised... After a full charge cycle this morning, 70% battery now with 9 hours, 23 minutes Standby and 47 minutes Usage. Not the best but wow, definitely much better. I wonder what happened O_O

     

     

     

  • by dkalchev,

    dkalchev dkalchev Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM in response to enx23
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM in response to enx23

    enx23 wrote:

     

    @Duckgirl722

     

     

    Duckgirl722 wrote:

     

    O______O Ok, I'm super surprised... After a full charge cycle this morning, 70% battery now with 9 hours, 23 minutes Standby and 47 minutes Usage. Not the best but wow, definitely much better. I wonder what happened O_O

    I do not want to disappoint you but the battery life issue will return soon! Ussualy it comes back in less that 2 days.

     

    My iPhone 4S is apparently magical. Not only does it not have any static noise, but it's battery life improves with every next charge, even if I turn on more and more features. Since last charge it has Location Services ON, Push e-mail ON and is currently at 8% with 1 day 21 hours Standby and 4 hours 54 minutes Usage. Most of that usage is real clock time with different apps. Ah and it still has this "unimpressive" background VoIP app with constant 3G/WiFi connection.

     

    Maybe the key is to actually use the iPhone?

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM in response to dkalchev
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM in response to dkalchev

    @dkalchev

     

     

    dkalchev wrote:

     

    enx23 wrote:

     

    If there is true audible noise, I suggest to exchange the device. The noise that is so quiet that it's barely audible could be present in electronics, I belive, am I wrong?

    You are wrong! I strongly suggest that you speak to someone who does electronics for a living!

     

    I do.   I have dealt with electronics for at least 40 years now.

    Almost all of today's electronics use circuits to pump up or down voltage. These chips require a number of different voltages each! The most efficient known today technology to do this sort of things involves transformers. Anyone ever done something with electronics knows that transformers make noise. Better transformers make less noise, but it can't be avoided. Not in today's (2012) electronics.

     

    I am even more convinced you have absolutely no clue what you talk about.

    Really?

     

    Read this!

     

    ==================================================

    ce1 wrote:

    ....

     

    Venturing a guess, it appears as though all iPhones are affected. It seems almost impossible for so many of these units, all purchased at different times and locations, to be affected in such a consistent way. The majority of users probably do not notice the static either because they can't hear it or think it's normal or simply don't want to appear crazy. When I took it to the Genius Bar the woman dialed the phone from a house line and swore to me should could hear no static. When I took the phone from her I heard it immediately, but that's because I knew what to listen to. I work in the microelectronics industry and when integrated circuits make this kind of noise, the issue tends to be related to (1) incorrect voltage or (2) a faulty component. Faulty components can continue to work within expected parameters, but will emit an electronic buzz/humm/static/whine/crackling. I'm doubtful that Apple can ever solve this issue with a software fix, but they may be able to fix it by identifying the issue and fixing it in their future production. At that stage it's probably going to be worthwhile to get a replacement -- assuming that Apple's service stock has caught up, which is definitely not going to happen for a while even after the issue has been fixed.

    ===========================================

     

    from here:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3393647?start=705&tstart=0

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Feb 7, 2012 11:20 AM in response to Kiasportwagon
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:20 AM in response to Kiasportwagon

    @Kiasportwagon

     

     

    Kiasportwagon wrote:

     

    My phone was charged to 100% last night. Did not use it and went to bed.

    In the morning the battery was down to 78% (7 hour sleep) and stats shows that i hade used it for 6 hours to, !!!!! What tha fuc.......!!!! Wy is my phone working behind my back?

     

     

    Somethings is fuc... wrong. My friend did charge hid phonre ladt night, when we compared, he hade 95% lelft i hade 65%, whata fuc......!!!!! This is pretty ******* bad.

    It looks like a hardware issue. I suggest to get a refund or a new replacement!

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM in response to dkalchev
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM in response to dkalchev

    Nope, its not possible. Just ask enx23, 80% dont work at all and the other 20% have static, and heat and bad chips and faulty software,and.............  You just THINK your phone works, it really doesnt.

    dkalchev wrote:

     

    enx23 wrote:

     

    @Duckgirl722

     

     

    Duckgirl722 wrote:

     

    O______O Ok, I'm super surprised... After a full charge cycle this morning, 70% battery now with 9 hours, 23 minutes Standby and 47 minutes Usage. Not the best but wow, definitely much better. I wonder what happened O_O

    I do not want to disappoint you but the battery life issue will return soon! Ussualy it comes back in less that 2 days.

     

    My iPhone 4S is apparently magical. Not only does it not have any static noise, but it's battery life improves with every next charge, even if I turn on more and more features. Since last charge it has Location Services ON, Push e-mail ON and is currently at 8% with 1 day 21 hours Standby and 4 hours 54 minutes Usage. Most of that usage is real clock time with different apps. Ah and it still has this "unimpressive" background VoIP app with constant 3G/WiFi connection.

     

    Maybe the key is to actually use the iPhone?

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM in response to enx23
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM in response to enx23

    Yeah In "looking" at it with xray glasses across the internet it would appear so.

    enx23 wrote:

     

    @Kiasportwagon

     

     

    Kiasportwagon wrote:

     

    My phone was charged to 100% last night. Did not use it and went to bed.

    In the morning the battery was down to 78% (7 hour sleep) and stats shows that i hade used it for 6 hours to, !!!!! What tha fuc.......!!!! Wy is my phone working behind my back?

     

     

    Somethings is fuc... wrong. My friend did charge hid phonre ladt night, when we compared, he hade 95% lelft i hade 65%, whata fuc......!!!!! This is pretty ******* bad.

    It looks like a hardware issue. I suggest to get a refund or a new replacement!

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM in response to Scarface.

    OK guys, to the rest of you here. I hope you found the last several replies as entertaining as I did. Sorry I got out of the "helpful" hat and put on the "i cant stand it any more" hat. Just one of those days I guess. haha

     

    Anyone with remaining battery issues.  RUN dont WALK to the nearset Apple store and demand an exchange for an Andriod (any model will do) device. I read they are doing even exchanges plus a free basket of Red Delicious or Macintosh apples for your trouble.   (its a joke just in case)

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