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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by joeechung,

    joeechung joeechung Feb 26, 2012 9:50 AM in response to alexfromoz
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    Feb 26, 2012 9:50 AM in response to alexfromoz

    It is not a battery issue, its phantom drainage, so you will have to restore your phone as a new device and tweak some settings around. Also fully discharge the phone numerous times to see it the phantom drainage stops. Doing one or more of the things I mentioned may stop this phantom drainage.

     

    RE:

    I have found a solution that worked for me, after numerous tries following other solutions that only sloved my problem partially.

     

    Step one: Reset all settings, when prompted after the reboot, choose set up as new iPhone

     

    Step two (old news): Follow what most people have said, turn off diagnotic reports/ all system services except "cell network search" On the same screen, make sure status bar icon is on so you can see if location services are being used. Turn off location services for things you don't need, the same for notifications. If you can avoid turning on notifications that show up on the lock screen for things that are unimportant. Also enable restrictions and turn off "ping", blue-tooth and for siri, turn off raise to speak, "that way the phone doesnt have to worry about sensing your phone when you put it against your ear. (INSTEAD, just hold the home button and when siri is on, then put it next to your ear to switch to headset mode. )

    For email turn push off. When push is off, any email that has the fetch option on will only check for emails lets say every hour when you set fetch to 1 hr. Emails accounts that are unimportant set to mannual, that way it will only check when you use the mail app. Try to avoid having push set on.

     

    Step three: Recalibrate your battery, drain it completely and let it charge fully to 100% overnight. Let it still charge for hours once it is at 100%.

     

    Step four: restore your phone, and DO NOT restore from backup. You have to somewhat start over again. Make sure you have atleast your apps and music/videos/podcasts etc in your iTunes library.

     

    step five: turn off automatic downloads for itunes, app store and iBooks when purchased on other devices. Somehow, after doing this my phantom drain stopped. Then when I checked these options the next day, they went back to on by "itself"

     

     

     

    This solution doesnt work 100% the first time. I believe there is a bug in the settings that causes the phone to have some sort of phantom drainage. You just have to tweak your settings around. This is why for some people their battery problems were solved and for others, were not. It could be possible they thought doing the original solution guides people have set up indeed fixed your battery issues, when they could had actually fixed it themselves by playing around with the settings.

     

    I tried for almost a couple of weeks doing the above steps, but last night i did step five and the phantom drainage stopped. I now have 1 day 12 hrs stand by and 8 hours of usage ( light web browsing, application downloads, some text, couple of calls, 2-3 hrs of music .)

     

    And I also noticed that my usage is accurate now. Before my fix, i noticed the usage time went up to a number of hours I dont recall using. That was probably the phantom drain. I also noticed before that when i lightly used my phone(listening to music drained 2-3 per hour), it seemed to drain at the same rate as if it were on standby. (losing 2-3% an hour as well)

     

    Tips:

     

    Keep checking if your usage time is accurate, if its not, you still got a drainage problem. Also Standby time includes usage hours altogether. If you dont get a plug icon when your phone is fully charged and get a bolt icon instead, that is another bug. Restarting your phone and plugging it back in again may fix that. Or restorting your phone.

     

    Avoid apps that have lots of ads, it may cause drainage issues, or make sure you dont use too much storage.

  • by EdiMC,

    EdiMC EdiMC Feb 26, 2012 1:47 PM in response to joeechung
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    Feb 26, 2012 1:47 PM in response to joeechung

    Well, good news for me! At least for now...

    I swaped SIM's and the phantom usage is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down!! Could this really have to do with the SIM card?! It's new and recent...there should ne no reason for that...

     

    I'll watch the phone in the next few days to see what happens because when I got the card I was using, the first days were ok...hopefully I've found the cause of my problems...

  • by ladikes,

    ladikes ladikes Feb 26, 2012 2:30 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Feb 26, 2012 2:30 PM in response to Scarface.

    well to hear from You that you handle this with sim replacement but let's think about it...what if it gets worse as first time You noticed the issue...then it means that we are gonna replace sims every few days or in better case weeks?:D that would be frustrating for us and fatal for apple and I mean the way that at least people who posted to this thread would be curious about the solution and if it shows as a true information,...simply I can not even imagine how they want to fix a fault like this could be.

     

    to EdiMC: please let us know whether the old trouble will come back again...and i hope it will not...

     


    And one more question i have for YOU: the old sim card You got away was cutted original sim card or it was micro sim card You substituted for another micro-one after You had noticed a battery issue and suspected the sim card as a ground?????

     

    regards

     

    and just for those who want to try maybe. does this problem appear even when you are in a flight mode? for example leaving the cellphone in a flightmode overnight whit the cca. 4/5 percents usage...there should not be a bigger consumption

  • by grinch420,

    grinch420 grinch420 Feb 26, 2012 2:46 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Feb 26, 2012 2:46 PM in response to Scarface.

    So - I've tried a few full cycle charges and things seem a little better (not great).  But lets recap here:

     

    - Phantom discharge

    - SIM card problems

    - Turning off features that you probably bought the phone for

    - Adjusting things to make it work

    - Resetting the whole system

    - etc..

     

    Seriously.  This should not be the consumer's fault or problem.  You pay very good money to get a device that works.  Have we become so desensitized to substandard consumer wears that we're willing to accept this?  I still feel as though apple should be embarrassed and do something about this.  Put out an app that checks the phone.  Send out a message to everyone...I don't know but putting this at the feet of the consumer to troubleshoot and try random things to make it better is simply ridiculous.  Having us waist our time gong back and forth to the store is ridiculous.  Basically, anything short of them taking a proactive approach to resolving this is ridiculous and I hope Jobs is rolling in his grave.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:28 PM in response to EdiMC
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:28 PM in response to EdiMC

    EdiMC wrote:

     

    Regarding the battery reaching it's full potential after a few cicles, that's what happens with most equipments...that is why the first days can be misleading...

     

     

    As I stated earlier, the only way to know if the battery itself has a problem is: take out the SIM card and watch what happens.

    In my case, the difference was HUGE!

    I went from 1day and 6 hours with the SIM on to 6 days with no SIM.

    This let me know that the battery itself is fine and that the problem is somewhere else.

     

    Cheers!

    There could be several causes for this.  First, the obvious.  With no SIM card, no battery power is sent to the cellular netwrok radios.  Second, some SIM cards appear to have apps on them from the service provider, which appear to be related to some of the phantom usage.  Third, some people are using old standar SIM cards that have been cut down to fit.  These sometimes short against the frame of the phone when the card holder is inserted, or when jostled while in the holder.  There are internet articles about what to do about this problem, but the best choice is to get a new SIM card from your service provider, and make sure it is provisioned for the 4S.  Then there is the possibility that you are on a fringe area, and the phone has to max out the power to the transmitter to maintain contact with the cell tower.  This can result in a LOT more battery drain.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:32 PM in response to Kinst
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:32 PM in response to Kinst

    Kinst wrote:

     

    Hi All!

     

    I found one of the reason of battery drainage. I'm sure by 100% and that's why:

     

    Since the day 1 I have very good battery life: about 0.3-0.5% battery off during standby, charge needed 1 per 2 days etc. Nothing to complain. It was during 2 months already. Most of things on.

     

    I use the iPhone with 2 simcards and change it about twice a month. Today morning I did the next exchange. I put in the same card I mostly use. I was in a car and plug the iPhone to charger. I found that the phone became unusual warm during charge and most strange that it became warm near the sim-slot.

     

    I charged it for 100% and unplug. And I was wondered - the battery drained to 1% within 6 hours! It was a 15 hours drive so I had time. I charge the iPhone for 25% and was noticed then that discharge was about 1% every 3-4 minutes. AND! The sim slot still little bit warm.

     

    At home I take the SIM away and went to sleep with 55% of charge. After 6 hours of dreams I got 52% - about 0.5% per hour as usual.

     

    I put the SIM back but clean it (by ditry t-shirt honestly). And now the discharge is normal again and nothing warm.

    The SIM card can short against the frame if it isn't seated firmly in the holder.  This may be your problem.  Be careful when you change it that it is in the holder firmly.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:35 PM in response to Hanani
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:35 PM in response to Hanani

    Hanani wrote:

     

    very frustrating reading this 736 page thread how weird Apple ignores the feedback ! 4S losing battery in 4 hour  daily use, exchange server mail on Push - this is why we need smart phone! GPS only one hour in the morning but I use the phone when it is plugged to the car. ODDLY IT IS GETTING WARM ! could this be a result of a faulty sim card ?   WHY ? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO ? Shall I ask Apple to check the phone, maybe replace a battery or give me a new devise  it is only 3 months old

    OK, first, using the GPS for an hour can drain 1/3 of your battery power. Second, PUSH can be a power hog if you get a lot of email, such as images, etc.  GPS use while on the charger does seem to generate some heat.  Don't know why.  If the heat is near the SIM holder, then it could be shorting.  Remove, and reseat the card.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:36 PM in response to EdiMC
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:36 PM in response to EdiMC

    EdiMC wrote:

     

    And iOS 5.1 will only be (hopefully) released  two weeks from now!! I'm getting soooooooooo tired of waiting! 

    My device has 3 months too...

     

    Already given up on finding a solution. Just waiting for the update...

    Aren't we all.  Waiting is...

    Hopefully, it willl appear about the same time as the iPad 3 debut.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:41 PM in response to UKdanny
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:41 PM in response to UKdanny

    UKdanny wrote:

     

    I had an Iphone 4 and upgraded to 5.0.1 and got Iphone 4s and haven't had any trouble at all.

    I'm not using siri, i think it's silly. Fully charged my phone 1 night before ( not last night but the night before ) and battery is still half. I've been using emails, WhatsApp, msgs, browsing so not sure where the problem is. First

    I set up as the old phone to save contacts then i set it up again as a new phone so I did restore twice. Battery is fine , for both Iphone 4 and 4s, no problem so far.

    Siri can be quite useful in some circumstances.  If you are in a strange city, and looking for a place to eat, for instance.  It is also really good at changing appointments in your calendar, and can handly mathmatics, such as splitting a 20% tip on $147 food bill among 5 people.  It is just an app in its toddler stages.  It will be much more useful when I can tell it to 'run settings, general, usage' and go right to uasge stats.  It could also be made to clear apps from the 'recently used' multi-tasking toolbar., or move apps from screen 1 to screen 4.  LOTS to be done to make it really reach its potential.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:45 PM in response to EdiMC
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:45 PM in response to EdiMC

    EdiMC wrote:

     

    Well, good news for me! At least for now...

    I swaped SIM's and the phantom usage is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down!! Could this really have to do with the SIM card?! It's new and recent...there should ne no reason for that...

     

    I'll watch the phone in the next few days to see what happens because when I got the card I was using, the first days were ok...hopefully I've found the cause of my problems...

    It could be that the old SIM wasn't properly provisioned for the 4S, or that it was not inserted in the holder properly and was shorting to the case.  Also, I have heard that some providers place apps on the SIM card for their own use and these don't work well on the 4S/IOS 5.01.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Feb 26, 2012 3:48 PM in response to grinch420
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    Feb 26, 2012 3:48 PM in response to grinch420

    grinch420 wrote:

     

    So - I've tried a few full cycle charges and things seem a little better (not great).  But lets recap here:

     

    - Phantom discharge

    - SIM card problems

    - Turning off features that you probably bought the phone for

    - Adjusting things to make it work

    - Resetting the whole system

    - etc..

     

    Seriously.  This should not be the consumer's fault or problem.  You pay very good money to get a device that works.  Have we become so desensitized to substandard consumer wears that we're willing to accept this?  I still feel as though apple should be embarrassed and do something about this.  Put out an app that checks the phone.  Send out a message to everyone...I don't know but putting this at the feet of the consumer to troubleshoot and try random things to make it better is simply ridiculous.  Having us waist our time gong back and forth to the store is ridiculous.  Basically, anything short of them taking a proactive approach to resolving this is ridiculous and I hope Jobs is rolling in his grave.

    I have Bluetooth off, because I don't use it.  I have 'system services' off because they are just ways for Apple to monitor and track your location, and usage.  I have location turned off for apps that have no need to know where I am.  Otherwise, nothing is off.  Right now, projecting use to 0%, I would get 3 more days on this charge.  So, It isn't something affects all phones.

  • by EdiMC,

    EdiMC EdiMC Feb 26, 2012 4:00 PM in response to ladikes
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    Feb 26, 2012 4:00 PM in response to ladikes

    ladikes wrote:

     

     

    to EdiMC: please let us know whether the old trouble will come back again...and i hope it will not...

     

     


    And one more question i have for YOU: the old sim card You got away was cutted original sim card or it was micro sim card You substituted for another micro-one after You had noticed a battery issue and suspected the sim card as a ground?????

     

    regards

     

    and just for those who want to try maybe. does this problem appear even when you are in a flight mode? for example leaving the cellphone in a flightmode overnight whit the cca. 4/5 percents usage...there should not be a bigger consumption

     

    Here is the story:

    - Bought the iPhone and got a new Micro-SIM at the store, because I wanted to keep my original number;

     

    - Had the "Invalid SIM" issue shortly after;

     

    - Bought a new Micro-SIM to see if the problem had to do with the phone or with the SIM (it was related to the SIM - never had it again);

     

    - BUT, because I wanted to keep my old phone number, I asked my carrier for a substitute of the first Micro-SIM that I've bought.

    It arrived in a few days and never had the "Invalid SIM" issue, but the battery was going down very quickly, with Usage Time and Waiting Time very close.

     

    - Today, I swaped SIM's and the Usage time is very low compared to Waiting Time and I notice a much better behaviour from the battery.

  • by EdiMC,

    EdiMC EdiMC Feb 26, 2012 4:51 PM in response to EdiMC
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    Feb 26, 2012 4:51 PM in response to EdiMC

    BAM! It's back!! Turned ON the Cellular Data, surfed the web for a little bit, turned it OFF, and since then, usage time is going up (while the phone is in standby).

     

    I give up..............

  • by chad0018,

    chad0018 chad0018 Feb 26, 2012 5:53 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Feb 26, 2012 5:53 PM in response to Scarface.

    i got the same issue as you all have. but the point is this iphone 4s would be nothing if youre not using what its best. turning off all the stuff that make this phone so awesome isint it pointless if you bought the iphone 4s and not using its features.  ive tried all the things that suggested in earlier posts as i was reading it. but well if we were just patient enough to wait what apple might have to do to fix this problem. i love the iphone 4s and i dont really care about about its battery usage ( well sometime it ****** me off) but the point is iphone 4s is nothing without its awesome features. hehehe

  • by Kinst,

    Kinst Kinst Feb 26, 2012 7:31 PM in response to rphunte42
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:31 PM in response to rphunte42

    I use GPS from time to time. It's not GPS circuit who eats battery - the application which is using GPS could drain. For instance when notification set to location it uses GPS constantly, but for me it means nothing, as usual 0.2-0.5% discharge per hour of standby.

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