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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by werner.fletcher,

    werner.fletcher werner.fletcher Mar 6, 2012 4:30 AM in response to EdiMC
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:30 AM in response to EdiMC

    Yeah I agree, this is total BULL!!  I am very unhappy with this phone.  I cannot get through a normal work day without charging it.  Are they waiting for the iPad 3 release before they release this 5.1 update?? I cannot believe there is no feedback from Apple regarding this battery problem.

  • by EdiMC,

    EdiMC EdiMC Mar 6, 2012 4:34 AM in response to werner.fletcher
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:34 AM in response to werner.fletcher

    Apparently they are! With so many complaints, I just can't understand this delay.........

  • by werner.fletcher,

    werner.fletcher werner.fletcher Mar 6, 2012 4:36 AM in response to EdiMC
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:36 AM in response to EdiMC

    Probably because the iPad 3 suffers/suffered from the same problem and now it runs on 5.1....

  • by jonathanCJ,

    jonathanCJ jonathanCJ Mar 6, 2012 4:39 AM in response to j_brahma
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:39 AM in response to j_brahma

    heii , J brahma , i just wanna ask , how often did you use battery doctor app?

  • by werner.fletcher,

    werner.fletcher werner.fletcher Mar 6, 2012 4:44 AM in response to jonathanCJ
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:44 AM in response to jonathanCJ

    Guys, I'm not trying to be rude, but NO battery application will make ANY difference.  If you paid for such an app, you got ripped off.  This is a huge problem from Apple's side.  I got this "smart" phone to use all its features, but if this continues after the update, Apple can take back my phone and put it somewhere dark, smelly and damp.

  • by Jameson!,

    Jameson! Jameson! Mar 6, 2012 4:54 AM in response to werner.fletcher
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:54 AM in response to werner.fletcher

    While you're absolutely correct that the battery APP does not change how charging works, some of them DO provide more detailed info on status and what's running on the phone.   Not a total waste of $$$$ but not a fix either.

    werner.fletcher wrote:

     

    Guys, I'm not trying to be rude, but NO battery application will make ANY difference.  If you paid for such an app, you got ripped off.  This is a huge problem from Apple's side.  I got this "smart" phone to use all its features, but if this continues after the update, Apple can take back my phone and put it somewhere dark, smelly and damp.

  • by Jameson!,

    Jameson! Jameson! Mar 6, 2012 4:59 AM in response to werner.fletcher
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:59 AM in response to werner.fletcher

    Why are you acting so surprised?   This is standard procedure for APPLE and with 40,000,000 phones out there, makes perfect sense.   While many phones are having problems to one degree or another, a blanket annoucement of a problem would cause mass hysteria and APPLE is not that foolish.  

     

    iOS 5.1 will be out in a matter of days.   HOPEFULLY, it will improve the situation for those who are having problems, but I personally, don't have high hopes for a miracle fix.   I'm more expecting a smallish, incremental improvement, but that's just my opinion............

    werner.fletcher wrote:

     

    Yeah I agree, this is total BULL!!  I am very unhappy with this phone.  I cannot get through a normal work day without charging it.  Are they waiting for the iPad 3 release before they release this 5.1 update?? I cannot believe there is no feedback from Apple regarding this battery problem.

  • by DouginCMH,

    DouginCMH DouginCMH Mar 6, 2012 5:03 AM in response to j_brahma
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    Mar 6, 2012 5:03 AM in response to j_brahma

    I'll be trying this again tonight. I simply haven't had the time to do it in the past week. In part because I also encountered an iTunes problem that hopefully will be fixed by a total uninstallation and reinstallation of iTunes.

     

    Anyway, assuming iTunes cooperates, I'll try a factory reset, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm not going to restore from back-up, since that may reintroduce the problem.

     

    Note that I did a reset and a restore from iTunes on my first 4S a few weeks ago; it worled fine for several days, then the same battery draining problem remerged. Hopefully, not restoring will avoid that, but at this point, I'm not betting anything on a positive outcome. I'll only restate, then, that I'ver had two phones work fine for a while, then plummet into the battery draining abyss. Be wary of any good results until they stand up over time.

  • by Samithb,

    Samithb Samithb Mar 6, 2012 5:10 AM in response to rphunte42
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    Mar 6, 2012 5:10 AM in response to rphunte42

    Correct.. after two cyccles it has really a good battery life... Ohh Apple... Now the speaker doesnt work on new handset... So I have to change it again....

  • by j_brahma,

    j_brahma j_brahma Mar 6, 2012 6:55 AM in response to werner.fletcher
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    Mar 6, 2012 6:55 AM in response to werner.fletcher

    yes you are correct, the app does not do something extraordinary to improve battery life. I do not recommend this app for people whose battery is draining rapidly, its no use, because their rapid battery drain is due to software related problems. I have suggested this app only for people with acceptable battery life, to calibrate their battery in a better way and gain better battery life.

     

    now look, for example take an iphone whose battery is at 60%, now this phone needs charging. so what we do is connect the phone to a wall charger and let the phone charge to 100%. Now normally what we all do is, we unplug the phone as soon as it show 100% charged in the phone's status bar with no more lightning symbol (charging symbol) by around say 1 hour. But the phone is not completely charged. The phone has completed only "FAST CHARGING". For longer battery life you need to do trickle charging, which takes around 3 hour or sometimes more.

     

    see this, straight from apple's website :

     

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    " Standard Charging :

    Most lithium-ion polymer batteries use a fast charge to charge your device to 80% battery capacity, then switch to trickle charging. That’s         about two hours of charge time to power an iPod to 80% capacity, then another two hours to fully charge it, if you are not using the iPod while charging. You can charge all lithium-ion batteries a large but finite number of times, as defined by charge cycle. "

     

     

     

     

     

    NOTE : This applies to ipod and iphone batteries. For full details click here      :        http://www.apple.com/batteries/

     

    so what this app does is, it shows us at what stage we are charging and how much time left for total charge to complete. this app is also usefull for keeping track of charging records.

     

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    Don't worry trickle charging won't harm your battery, i do it every day.

     

    I have even read in many forums about people keeping their iphones plug to charger all night long till the morning and no harm at all. Which i do not recommend though.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Mar 6, 2012 6:55 AM in response to j_brahma
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    Mar 6, 2012 6:55 AM in response to j_brahma

    j_brahma wrote:

     

    I have even read in many forums about people keeping their iphones plug to charger all night long till the morning and no harm at all. Which i do not recommend though.

    Charging overnight will not harm your battery. When the battery reaches full, it will stop charging. I do it (and have done it with every cell phone I've ever owned) because it's the simplest way of always having your phone charged and ready to go in the morning. I know very few people who don't do this.

  • by j_brahma,

    j_brahma j_brahma Mar 6, 2012 6:58 AM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Mar 6, 2012 6:58 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

    hmm thanks.

     

    I said that becuase some people here thinks that charging your phone for 3 hours will damage it. the phone will charge as much as it needs to, and will stop charging itself when its completely charged

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Mar 6, 2012 7:00 AM in response to j_brahma
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    Mar 6, 2012 7:00 AM in response to j_brahma

    j_brahma wrote:

     

    I said that becuase some people here thinks that charging your phone for 3 hours will damage it.

    Some people think a lot of very strange things about batteries.

  • by Michael Battenfield,

    Michael Battenfield Michael Battenfield Mar 6, 2012 8:42 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Mar 6, 2012 8:42 AM in response to Scarface.

    I am absolutely blown away at the number of posts on this thread - 90%+ of which are pure uninformed speculation, accusations, and disgruntled people who wouldn't be content of our phones could be used heavily and contstantly for a week at a time without a recharge... the question would then be "why won't this piece of junk last two weeks?".

     

    Seriously - if anyone actually took the time to read through the posts on this thread (if the issue is that important, then read through), one would find a handfull of helpful posts that really do help to identify if you have one of the relatively small portion of iPhone 4s devices that DO indeed have battery issues.

     

    Lets all keep in mind - "battery life" is measured based on the initial test units, and just like every other electronics measure or estimates, is based on ideal conditions and "best-case" scenario.  In other words - If you have good wifi coverage, flawless 3G, have no additional software (and especially hacks), and essentiall use the phone as a phone.  This is much akin to how you can go out and buy a new laptop that claims "up to 5 hours of battery life"... that is assuming screen brightness is turned WAY down, processor is throttled WAY back, no upgraded/faster hard drives, no extra peripherals, no high-demand processes (and those PC stats NEVER include the drain of constant-monitoring/running anti-malware).  I have never seen a laptop that actually lasted the length of time claimed with full-blown use (not even Apple, though my experience with Apple laptops - especially my old iBook, that thing had great battery life, even after hundreds of cycles...but I digress).

     

    It goes back to reasonable expectations.  In my experience (and with several friends who always buy the latest Android-based top-of-the-line phones) - smart phones from any manufacturer NEVER achieve anything like the claimed use/standby time.  Some do a bit better than others, but in general, Android phones don't come close, nor do Windows-based phones.

     

    But again - if someone were to actually try some of the common sense steps posted repeatedly, ad nauseum, in the previous 751 pages to see if it really is a battery issue, or something else going on (corrupt firmware, software, hacks, or other trouble), then there would be a lot less confusion.

     

    3G coverage can create serious battery life issues in ALL phones.  3G is flakey, even where it has been firmly established for a long time.  Urban areas, even with lots of towers sees some serious signal issues with constant switching of towers as signals bounce around. 

     

    Other issues that affect battery life - extreme temperatures (heat and cold).  Heat has a permanent impact, cold more temporary, but also more dramatic (cold batteries drain MUCH faster in all devices and uses).

     

    From many posts, it appears any even remotely serious complaint of battery life results in Apple replacing phones.  I don't see how this is bad service.  Replacing phones with a simple suspicion of battery trouble would seem to be taking ownership. How man iPhone 4s have been made? Millions and millions.  No battery manufacturer has a perfect record.  even a 1% failure/refect rate (which would actually be below the industry average), still results in a WHOLE BUNCH of batteries with issues.   Anybody ever bought a car battery that died before the warranty ran out?  Sure - many of us have.  The battery was quite possibly defective from the get go.  A small portion of those early-failed automotive batteries may have failed due to other issues (alternator, electrical short, or "mystery drain" which some vehicles show -).  There are lots of pitfalls to "hurt" batteries, on top of the percentage that will always come out defective.

     

    No app, short of possibly some kind of high-tech hack into the iOS to change how the device actually DOES the charging, can increase battery life magically.  It might help you see what activities and useage patterns do to your battery life.  They might even help you to understand WHAT is going on "in" your device.

     

    But I will repeat what I posted previously - we ask our smartphones to do a LOT - far more than our big and bulky laptops of a not-so-distant past.  The price of our devices sets us up to have high expectations.  If someone cannot live with charging their device daily -then they are likely going to be disappointed with any brand/OS/model.  Do some iPhone 4s users get 2 days+ of use between charges?  Maybe so, I don't know all the details of how and where they use their phones, or the quality of service in their area. 

     

    I have LOTS running on my iPhone 4s, purchased about a month ago - location services turned on for the apps that I use frequently, a few with notifications turned on.  Not much "push", email checks every 30 minutes. Screen brightness about 40% (unless I'm in a very bright location).  I probably make/receive a handful of actual calls, totally 30-40 minutes.  I spend significant time using Safari, TwitPal, a bit updating/checking facebook, quite a few texts, take a few photos, etc.  Sometimes I even pick up my phone instead of my MacBook Pro (which is probably better suited) to do some quick google searches.  I use this iPhone more than my previous iPhone 4, and the 3g before that.  Yesterday, since I didn't go in to the office, my phone was used a bit more.  By the time I plugged it up when I went to bed, it was down to just under 10%.  It was "off the plug" for 15 hours.

     

    I am unsubscribing from this thread - 20-40 inane and mostly unhelpful posts every day is driving me nuts.

  • by EdiMC,

    EdiMC EdiMC Mar 6, 2012 9:03 AM in response to Michael Battenfield
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    Mar 6, 2012 9:03 AM in response to Michael Battenfield

    I partially agree with you. Some of the problems reported here are in fact related with unrealistic expectations about the battery lifetime.

    But many aren't!

    Look at my case: I get 1 day from 100% to 0% with no use at all and with EVERYTHING turned Off. Isn't that pathetic?! I think it is!

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