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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by 3dmac,

    3dmac 3dmac Nov 7, 2011 9:15 PM in response to Smurfy RN
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:15 PM in response to Smurfy RN

    Smurfy,

    What APPS do you have running in the DOCK RIGHT NOW ??

     

    2x press the home button to open !!

  • by Smurfy RN,

    Smurfy RN Smurfy RN Nov 7, 2011 9:20 PM in response to 3dmac
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:20 PM in response to 3dmac

    None... I have purposely been shutting them down after I use them.

  • by 3dmac,

    3dmac 3dmac Nov 7, 2011 9:40 PM in response to Smurfy RN
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:40 PM in response to Smurfy RN

    What email accounts do u have loaded ? and which are auto push or manual ?

    AS you can see I don't have a Problem !

    Only thing off is auto time Zone.

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  • by mednaen,

    mednaen mednaen Nov 7, 2011 9:43 PM in response to Smurfy RN
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:43 PM in response to Smurfy RN

    Heh i do the same exact thing. I double pressed the home button in order to close apps, more often than I have used the actual touch display. You can never be too sure.

     

    I also purchased Battery Doctor app from the store and followed all the charging instructions. Don't worry, dies just the same but at least the gage showing me that is very BIG and professional looking.

  • by Minakovd,

    Minakovd Minakovd Nov 7, 2011 9:48 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:48 PM in response to Scarface.

    The same thing. New iphone 4S (64Gb) lose 40% of battery charge per night! This is incredible. Should I always carry charger in the pocket?

    Turning off of time zone doesn't help!

  • by miless,

    miless miless Nov 7, 2011 9:52 PM in response to mednaen
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:52 PM in response to mednaen

    mednaen wrote:

     

    whaaa... wwho.. huhh?

     

    My work is not flawless but when someone points out the flaws, I show appreciation as it helps me improve.

     

    I didn’t pay for magic. I paid for a phone, which by the numberof posts on this matter clearly has an issue.

    Not really asking for anything else other than what I’ve agreed to pay for. 

     

    My line of thought here you see… If you constantly add morewood to the fire it will eventually grow. Merely hoping that as the fire grows,so does the concern of those in charge of putting it out.

     

    As for other posts which suggest that I should tinker with my phone in countless ways to achieve normal performance or determine the cause of the problem… are you actually serious? Next time you gas up the car at the GAS pump and your engine fails because you’ve actually pumped DIESEL, pull out your toolkit and start figuring it out. Do not, under any circumstance, let the clerk or other fellow drivers know.

    As with anything else, you have a choice. Go to the store, get a refund. I think your soul will be much more peaceful that you are now. Then go to Nokia store (if you can still find them), and get yourself a Nokia,... probably for free.

     

    Or, you can go to the store and exchange for another piece of magic. And see if you are still unsatisfied with it.

     

    4000 post (many repeated by same users) out of probably 5-6 million phones sold now represents 0.07-0.08% of the production which could be bad. Which is extremely small in numbers if you ask me.

     

    What the forum here did is, help users ascertain if the phone really has faulty battery, or just set up issues. As Apple has openly admitted, there is indeed a bug in the OS which caused some unprecedented battery drain. And they have issued a fix (2 in fact) in beta testing.... to ensure they dont plug a hole and cause another leak.

     

    Get this free app and monitor your battery. You wont have to worrry about going out with less than 90% battery on your phone.

    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/batterysense-by-philips-consumer/id426068946?mt=8

  • by 3dmac,

    3dmac 3dmac Nov 7, 2011 9:56 PM in response to Minakovd
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:56 PM in response to Minakovd

    From iPod touch experience, having an over active email account (one that should be logged from a MAC/PC)

    and set to push WILL kill the battery overnight with constant fetching and combined lownloading. If it's on wifi battery draw will be less but still huge.

  • by miless,

    miless miless Nov 7, 2011 10:02 PM in response to Minakovd
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    Nov 7, 2011 10:02 PM in response to Minakovd

    Minakovd wrote:

     

    The same thing. New iphone 4S (64Gb) lose 40% of battery charge per night! This is incredible. Should I always carry charger in the pocket?

    Turning off of time zone doesn't help!

    Go to Settings>General>Reset>Reset Network Settings

     

    Then, drain you battery down to zero... charge it up to 100%, and leave it charging overnight (normally it takes about 2 hours to charge from zero to 100%). Leave it to charge for 5 hours at least.

     

    Then try again. Download the free BatterySense app (by Philips) from App Store and monitor your phone battery. If it still doesnt work. Go back and get your phone replaced.

  • by Minakovd,

    Minakovd Minakovd Nov 7, 2011 10:28 PM in response to miless
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    Nov 7, 2011 10:28 PM in response to miless

    Thank you. I'll try. Hope it will help, because i can't replace iphone: bouhgt it in another country during business trip.

  • by miless,

    miless miless Nov 7, 2011 10:43 PM in response to Minakovd
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    Nov 7, 2011 10:43 PM in response to Minakovd

    Try it out. I find that my 4S battery life gets better and better as i use and charge it. I got it for about 9 days now and im still trying out new things, new ways to make the battery last longer. I may stop trying now that i can get the phone to last the whole day and still have 50% left in my battery (about 17-18 hours standby with 1.5 hours usage).

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Nov 7, 2011 10:51 PM in response to miless
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    Nov 7, 2011 10:51 PM in response to miless

    I think putting things in perspective helps. And most people can rightfully get a refund if they're not fully satisfied.

     

    Yet calling the Iphone a "piece of magic" is slightly over the top. I respect your opinion though. But please don't make fun of Nokia because the Nokia N9 is a piece of magic like the Iphone could never aspire to be in its wildest dreams - the only thing missing is a real app ecosystem and it'll never happen. So is the Lumia 800, albeit to a lesser extent.

     

    See, I'll never understand Apple users and their fairy tales. Honestly I have an Audi car. I find it's beautiful. But at work I never try to convince my coworkers that it's "magic" or anything like that, yet I think it's much better than many American cars. I like that there are American cars around and I don't make jokes about GM dealers and such. I just don't know why I should always put down other brands simply because I like my car. I wish Apple users would see the light... of humility. I'm not talking about you because you showed in prior posts some sound logic which I could appreciate, but the more I hang around the more I find Apple users not only slightly girlish, but in the end very insecure. I hadn't noticed.

     

    Take care.

  • by agaltsoff,

    agaltsoff agaltsoff Nov 7, 2011 10:52 PM in response to miless
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    Nov 7, 2011 10:52 PM in response to miless

    miless This is not magic. This is just a phone. And its more than just 0.07-0.08%, Becouse all my friends are using iphone, and the battery work worse too. But they dont wont to write here mesages. And people like them a lot.

  • by mednaen,

    mednaen mednaen Nov 7, 2011 10:58 PM in response to miless
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    Nov 7, 2011 10:58 PM in response to miless

    Common Miless, lets not get philosophical here. You don't really have a choice with everything. What if I bought the phone from eBay, am I supposed to pay shipping back and forth untill I'm gonna get lucky with a working model. I doubt anyone in their right mind would take an open box iPhone 4S back once they sold it sealed.

     

    What if I went on some amazing 3 year contract with a certain company? Do you think I could just tell them I've changed my mind without paying penalties. I guess all these are my problems right? I guess I should happily deal with them and cultivate a "peacefull soul".

     

    After all that I should go and get a free Nokia. You know whats funny? That the free Nokia might actually do what it claims even if it doesn't claim all that much.

     

    You've maged to write down  a random percentage number using the word "probably" as a resource. And even if that would be precise information and I am part of the unlucky minority which has issues does that mean it shouldn't be adressed.

     

    Then you say: "What the forum here did is, help users ascertain if the phone really has faulty battery, or just set up issues." Which means what exactly? That the forum determined what? Not even apple determined the issue yet. That is why I am posting about the problem.

     

    And you say I should get another app which does the same exact thing: gives me detailed information about my battery power which just depletes anyway.

     

    Yeah.. To sum it up, I've only come to this forum to report my issue with this device, and while it wasn't very helpful, it was definately entertaining. Now I shall go to sleep and use my 20$ Ericson phone for alarm purpuses, as my brand new iPhone 4S will probably die untill the morning.

     

    Cheers and may Apple help us all.

  • by StephanGenevaCH,

    StephanGenevaCH StephanGenevaCH Nov 7, 2011 11:10 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 7, 2011 11:10 PM in response to Scarface.

    Could there be both a software and a hardware problem???

     

    I have finally got my 64 GB 4S replaced with a new unit yesterday after an unsuccessfull visit to the Geneva (Switzerland) Apple Store 10 days ago. This because I bought my unit in France at launch and could not have it replaced in Switzerland as 4S wasn't launched there yet although Apple Support told me to go there....

     

    So finally returned to my home base last week end after 1 week spent abroad and went to the Geneva Apple Store yesterday (4S is now launched in Switzerland). The replacement I was given was brand new and I immediately got it charged to 100% which it did around 4:30 PM yesterday. I also made sure that I disabled everything (and I do mean everything turning my 4S into my grand dad's telephone from 50 years ago despite the look of my 4S) so that I could compare apples to apples . It is now 8 AM Geneva time (day 2) and my battery went down by a mere 13% for 15.5 hours of "usage". Well in fact 15.5 hours of virtual standby as I made sure I did not use my 4S for anything else but answering a few text messages or phone calls. My orignal unit would have been dead since long under the same conditions as a fully loaded battery at 9 PM was flat the next day at 7 PM. And again same settings....

     

    I will now work at getting my 4S work as a smartphone which is what I bought it for. First test will be email but I won't set my account to push immediately. Then I will look at more sexier features such as Siri if all goes well.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Nov 7, 2011 11:30 PM in response to StephanGenevaCH
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    Nov 7, 2011 11:30 PM in response to StephanGenevaCH

    The answer to your question is basically "yes" in my opinion. And you proved that you don't have a hardware problem with your new phone. Yet you give no explanation as to how you had set up the first phone and if you had proceeded carefully like you're doing now. The way you proceed sounds logical to me. 0.5-1% per hour drop on standby sounds really fair to me and would yield 100-200 standby hours. Apple claims it's a 6hrs usage 3G internet device and I believe them as I've seen users in the wild with numbers very similar to that. The whole philosopĥical thing is in how to make the 6 hrs or a few hours more with mixed usage stretch as long as possible with intertwined standby periods. Apple gives some pointers here... http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html

     

    And basically all the posts in this thread are an application of such guidelines.

     

    Good luck!

     

    p.s. I would say remain careful, as something I have noticed is people having a stable situation deteriorate, and inversely, people with issues having improvements after full charge cycles. It's a shame we'll never really know what went wrong. I'd gladly read an entire book on that. Apple please make my dream come true and publish a book on the antenna gate and the battery gate. Thank you!

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