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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by 182maxtor,

    182maxtor 182maxtor Nov 21, 2011 9:19 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 21, 2011 9:19 AM in response to Scarface.

    This phone is terrible. I'm really missing my iphone4 right now. If apple doesn't fix this soon, I will sell this phone and buy a Galaxy S2 and will never buy another iPhone again. This is my third iPhone now and even my 3GS lasted longer than this. It is slightly faster than iphone4 but not enough to justify the upgrade. Siri is the only selling point for this phone but since I live in Canada, it is nearly useless. My dad has a galaxy s and I think I could get used to android. Just typing this comment, my battery has dropped 2%. Very dissapointed

  • by James Cohen,

    James Cohen James Cohen Nov 21, 2011 1:45 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 21, 2011 1:45 PM in response to Scarface.

    ****!

     

    I don't post for a few days and this is what happens????

     

    All of you sniping at each other should start a new thread to vent.

     

    My battery life seems to contiune to be about 1/2 of what Apple's spec is.

     

    Any news on the "upcoming" 5.0.2 update?

  • by James Cohen,

    James Cohen James Cohen Nov 21, 2011 1:48 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 21, 2011 1:48 PM in response to Scarface.

    BTW,

     

    My 4S charges at least 2X faster pluged into the wall than into my iBook. I don't see any difference in battery either way.

  • by James Cohen,

    James Cohen James Cohen Nov 21, 2011 1:48 PM in response to James Cohen
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    Nov 21, 2011 1:48 PM in response to James Cohen

    I meant MacBook. But it would probably be the same in my iBook.

  • by James Cohen,

    James Cohen James Cohen Nov 21, 2011 1:53 PM in response to doughawaii
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    Nov 21, 2011 1:53 PM in response to doughawaii

     

    To any newcomers here: Go to area's around page 350. Most useful stuff lays there. Explains why is software issue etc., and was a time when some useful info.was posted before the troll's took over. Like SHADYZZ says.... Apple will release a fix, so just relax, and understand all first adapters of any new versions of software are going to always experience glitches. Looking at your logs will also show you how incredibly complicated these little computers actually are. Just turn off all features you are not actively using, and hang in there. Deep in your heart, you know Apple is working feverently on a fix, just like any other company would.

     

    I second this. We should keep quoting this every few pages.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Nov 21, 2011 3:23 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 21, 2011 3:23 PM in response to Scarface.

    I don't think the moderators are bots. They have done their job and shouldn't be pressured.

     

    I don't know James, taking 6 posts at 2 mins intervals to fill out a page instead of editing one post and adding your stuff into it, all the while saying you're "returning" to the thread, quoting Doug's lamest post and hoping for it to be repeated every other page pretty much gives away what you stand for. It's not information or support, it's just brainwash. There is information throughout the thread, not just what Doug deems to be good enough. Doug doesn't have the skill or the objectivity to help people. And then you have Matty's post, which is quite similar to what Shadyz wrote. And GT is there to approve, and can't figure out a way to turn off the email notifications. Pointlessness, anger, capitalization, victimization. If the thread ends up being about people like you, I don't think that will be of any help to anyone.

     

    It's a shame that when one person doesn't have much to say he should resort to this kind of social engineering, posing as victims of the thread... just because he couldn't take it. I'd be ashamed if I had to resort to such tactics to make a point.

  • by James Cohen,

    James Cohen James Cohen Nov 21, 2011 3:32 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Nov 21, 2011 3:32 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    Apple..NoWay.

     

    You are seriously disturbing. And the very definition of a troll.

     

    I think it's best that everyone ignore you until you go away and find someother forum to hijack.

     

    You have served to take a forum that was about reporting problems and posting possible solutions and turn into a flame war.

     

    Are you getting the attention you need now?

     

    I'm done with you.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Nov 21, 2011 4:04 PM in response to James Cohen
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    Nov 21, 2011 4:04 PM in response to James Cohen

    Listen, like your pals you have this idea that you know what's best for other people and that you should think for them. They can think for themselves and it's a free world. I'm not about attention, I'm about opinion, as I've posted often about the problem at hand too - I've proved that today. The thread has slowed down in terms of actual support issues and there is nothing wrong with having discussions about mobiles and all that's related. You see, I - and others - don't have to live up to what you think is right and I don't have to justify what I write, as long as I respect the terms of use. The day moderators decide to warn me or even remove my posting privileges, I'll abide by their decision. They have not done so and I've been on the forum since page 128. Live with it.

     

    Everyone is welcome to post about their issues and nothing of what has transpired today will impede with the support they can get from the thread. You cannot plead you and your friends' own turpitude to motivate further moderation. A forum is something organic and it evolves, it is something human. Such is life.

     

    @w raider. I've read the term of use of the forum. If Apple had wanted posters to own a device as a requirement to posting they could have made it so. It is possible to help and contribute without owning a device. I have done so.

  • by W. Raider,

    W. Raider W. Raider Nov 21, 2011 4:00 PM in response to James Cohen
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    Nov 21, 2011 4:00 PM in response to James Cohen

    Apple...noway signed up on Oct 29th 2011 to post in a forum about a problem they don't have with a product they don't own...ridiculous.

     

    Anyways, staying on topic here, ever since I turned Siri off, rebooted and confirmed that the IR/Sensor/Light that you can see with some lesser cameras like the front-facing one on an iPad2 is off, the battery problem (which I actually have) on my iPhone 4S (which I actually own) has been reduced appreciably.

     

    It's still not solved however but there -in my specfic case- has been a noticable reduction on the drain of the battery since turning the IR/Sensor/light off.

     

    Right now since 100% charge:

     

    Battery = 16%

    Usage = 13 hours, 37 minutes

    Standby = 1 day 3 hours

    Cellular Usage > Call Time > Current Period (meaning since battery hit 100%) = 48 minutes.

    Cellular Network Data = Sent 443 KB

    Received = 1.5 MB

     

    Since I actually go outside unlike some people there was some usage of Waze, Yelp, Find My Friends and iMessage as well as checking weather and about 30 photos taken of friends.

     

    So, turning off Siri and confirming the light is off is a definite improvment but no panacea.

  • by James Cohen,

    James Cohen James Cohen Nov 21, 2011 4:38 PM in response to W. Raider
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    Nov 21, 2011 4:38 PM in response to W. Raider

    Raider,

     

    After the update I was losing 1% per hour or less for a few days. About 4 or 5 days later it went up to 2% and now it seems like it's more (this is all while idling). Apple specs suggest .5% per hour.

     

    I tried turning off iCloud, etc, but there was no difference in the power leak.

     

    Does that sound about the same as what you've got going on?

     

    A 60 minute converstation used up only 10%. I haven't tested it in a few days but this would give me 10 hours talk time, better than Apple's 8 hour spec. That means the hardware is okay.

     

    I suggest that everyone does the talk time test to test the hardware. It it's around 12.5% per hour of talk, this will allay some of the panic and MAYBE give people confidence that it's a fixable software issue.

     

    Oh yes, I actually have, and use a 4S

  • by prkgs982,

    prkgs982 prkgs982 Nov 21, 2011 5:03 PM in response to W. Raider
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    Nov 21, 2011 5:03 PM in response to W. Raider

    How can you turn off IR/ Sensor/Light?

    I got a new phone but it still runs on iOS5.0. I let it complete one charge cycle since yesterday and I had 5 hours 19 minutes usage, 23 hours and 28 minutes standby. Should I do the update to 5.0.1? It keeps popping up in iTunes

    Thanks

  • by W. Raider,

    W. Raider W. Raider Nov 21, 2011 5:14 PM in response to James Cohen
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    Nov 21, 2011 5:14 PM in response to James Cohen

    I've noticed an improvement in ilde "phantom" usage since turning Siri off and making sure the IR sensor is off. (turn off Siri, reboot, and check top front of iPhone 4S against a lesser camera like the front-facing camera on an iPad2)

     

    For me, before turning off the sensor I was -like you- loosing 1, 2 or more percent an hour. Initially it was as much as 5% per hour but that seemed to settle down after a few (maybe four?) full charge cycles (after updating to 5.0.1), meaning letting the phone drain until it turns off on it's own then charging until it hits 100%.

     

    Now I see about 1-2% drain per hour, maybe a little more.

     

    I ran a test before the Siri light sensor discovery and found that starting with a fully charged iPhone 4S I could talk continually for about 168Mins until the phone shut of from battery drain (and got really warm).

     

    I need to do that test again since turning Siri off but I suspect that since the light comes on during phone calls, as it should, battery time will be about the same.

     

    The only thing that made any noticable difference for me was turning off Siri then rebooting the phone; turning off notifications, iCloud or anything else seemed to make no difference whatsoever.

     

    I am curious to see (and will probably be my next test once the phone charges to 100%) how turning off WiFi sync in iTunes affects battery life. In the back of my head I have this feelign that the iPhone is maintaining a heartbeat connection with iTunes and using battery. I have iTunes launched nearly 100% of the time I'm home.

     

    Btw, not wifi sync when plugged in, but the sync preference in iTunes so you can upload songs over the air and whatnot. I think it's called "Sync with this iPhone over WiFi" in iTunes at the bottom of the Summary tab.

     

    Yeah, your and my drain seem fairly similar. Standby isn't too bad of an issue battery-wise and seemed to improve overall with charging cycles, but when I use the phone for anything it seems the battery just drains like mad.

     

    One interesting thing to keep track of is to reset your Cellular Usage stat when the phone hits 100% and you pull it off charge. Just to keep a rough mental count of talk time vs. battery in your head.

     

    For me a 60min conversation will use about 50% of my battery so something is definitately wrong there. I even told this to an Apple Genius and all I got was "Apple's working on it."

     

    For what it's worth, I think the "Usage" stat on the phone is fairly worthless for anything relating to the user's usage but it is really interesting that it counts whatever mysterious stuff the phone is using as Usage though. Overnight my phone with no usage initially showed -without me touching it- almost an hour of "usage".

     

    Bottom line for me of things that helped battery life are:

     

    1. Turing off Siri and Rebooting the phone by holding the Home button and Top button down, ignoring the slider, until the phone shut down.

    2. Fully draining the battery, meaning using the phone until it shuts itself off from a drained battery and then recharging it to 100% about 4, maybe 5 times. I charged it both with a Mac and a wall charger.

     

    Hope this is helpful!

  • by W. Raider,

    W. Raider W. Raider Nov 21, 2011 5:17 PM in response to prkgs982
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    Nov 21, 2011 5:17 PM in response to prkgs982

    If you have a camera that can see the light (a good one is the front-facing camera on an iPad2) it's easier to confirm.

     

    But for me and my girlfriend's iPhone 4S's (her's is a 32 mines a 64, both white bought on same day, same store, hers has nice screen whilst mine is yellow-ish) the sensor light was on all the time.

     

    To turn it off we turned off Siri, then held down both the Home button and the top button until the phone turned off. Ignore the slider that will appear, continue to hold until the phone is off or reboots.

     

    The sensor light should be off and should only turn on when you make or receive a call. The sensor light should turn off when a call ends.

  • by Rchapma,

    Rchapma Rchapma Nov 21, 2011 5:49 PM in response to James Cohen
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    Nov 21, 2011 5:49 PM in response to James Cohen

    http://feeds.appleinsider.com/click.phdo?i=5ac499f23497fe3715904697a2adedcb

    Monday, November 21, 2011 3:29 PMApple allegedly delays iOS 5.0.2 to address memory leaksAppleInsider

    Backpedaling on a rumor that Apple would release iOS 5.0.2 to address software bugs this week, a new rumor claims the update has been delayed due to memory leaks in the code.

     

  • by prkgs982,

    prkgs982 prkgs982 Nov 21, 2011 5:50 PM in response to W. Raider
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    Nov 21, 2011 5:50 PM in response to W. Raider

    I tried to make a call from another phone and I don't see the sensor light turned on at all even I hit the answer button. Do you think there is something wrong with the light?

    I don't see it turn on or turn off though.

    Thanks.

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