Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My New iPhone 4s battery life is quite terrible. I have done the normal deed of charging up to full capacity once i got it; drain it down to 0% a couple times. I have my notifications turned off, Cell Data off, Bluetooth off, Wifi off, iCloud off... there is really nothing running on this phone at all. Just being used as a normal phone, with most of the time in standby mode, and the battery life is still dying fairly quickly.

why can't the "big" improvement for apple be, a long lasting battery life and a long lasting battery discharge? This would top all smart phones and bring a new light into the world of buying them. Once this is accomplished then start working at the phone re-design again.

Looking at the stats from the original iPhone to the newest one, the battery has not really improved. This is a problem.

Today I read about the Google Nexus "volumegate" issue. The volume rocker on the device receives undue interference from the 900mhz GSM radio spectrum, so for instance if someone is on the phone and someone else who's using 2G for instance passes by, the sound volume on the Nexus is modified. Of course this bears no impact on the Apple issue at hand. But I thought it was interesting to note the following:

-Google acknowledged the issue 6 days after launch

-They have acknowledged finding a fix and promised soon delivery of it (we'll see).

-Systems engineers at Google have come out in the open qualifying the problem as a hardware issue the symptoms of which can be fixed in software i.e. debounce

-Dan Morrill, a well-known Google engineer, has posted on his G+ thread a post which explains the issue

https://plus.google.com/u/0/112413860260589530492/posts/1a4hY7VeqiG

It seems a simple problem compared to Apple's but I found it interesting that a hardware issue can sometimes be solved in software. I also liked the fact that very high level ressources steer the discussions so that the simple user isn't entirely lost in all the speculation. In this thread, some very knowledgeable ressources came to help, but it would really have been interesting to have an Apple engineer join in.

Good luck!

Reminescent in tone to when Apple dissed MS's execution prevention mechanism... now about lifestyle... can't wait for Apple to make a counter ad... who said that feuding couldn't be entertaining lolllll I guess they really really don't like each other's guts lollll.

http://youtu.be/6h5JSojJN3Y

turn the Push off   eMail. then u save some juce

Strange.  The 5.0.1 update initially improved the battery life on my iPhone.  However, days later, I'm back to the same poor performance.  Owning an iPhone the first time, I was certainly surprised to see how hot the back gets when you use the phone with a number of applications.  I guess this must be somewhat related...

Certainly this is common knowledge, But I'll throw it out just in case. Reduce battery usage by double clicking (pressing) your home button. See all the icons on the bottom of your screen, Yes you do, ok! those are open apps and they are chewing through your battery life.... press and hold on one, you will see negative signs in a red circle press each red circle and that will close your open apps...That will help I promise...

1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

 

Today I read about the Google Nexus "volumegate" issue. The volume rocker on the device receives undue interference from the 900mhz GSM radio spectrum, so for instance if someone is on the phone and someone else who's using 2G for instance passes by, the sound volume on the Nexus is modified. Of course this bears no impact on the Apple issue at hand. But I thought it was interesting to note the following:

 

-Google acknowledged the issue 6 days after launch

-They have acknowledged finding a fix and promised soon delivery of it (we'll see).

-Systems engineers at Google have come out in the open qualifying the problem as a hardware issue the symptoms of which can be fixed in software i.e. debounce

-Dan Morrill, a well-known Google engineer, has posted on his G+ thread a post which explains the issue

https://plus.google.com/u/0/112413860260589530492/posts/1a4hY7VeqiG

 

It seems a simple problem compared to Apple's but I found it interesting that a hardware issue can sometimes be solved in software. I also liked the fact that very high level ressources steer the discussions so that the simple user isn't entirely lost in all the speculation. In this thread, some very knowledgeable ressources came to help, but it would really have been interesting to have an Apple engineer join in.

 

Good luck!

You are comparing open with close.

Google and Apple

Google does things openly ...

Apple is always closed....

Also... its easy for Google to dismiss it as hardware issue (not their fault.. .Samsung build the phone anyway)... and can be solved by software ... tada! ... They are the saving heroes.

Its all about publicity and how you steer the media to report the message you want to convey to the public...

unfortunately it doesn't

I brought my phone to the apple store the other day and the guy said some apps were still running/ crashed in the background even when I turned off those by doubling clicking the home button and manually closing them. He suggested me to reboot the phone but to me it doesnt feel like the battery life has imprved. So I just wonder how am I guaranteed that all the apps are properly closed? (I doubt because when I turn on some apps e.g. safai, they are like how I left it before I closed them manually)

Such a disapointment Apple. I bought the iphone 4s with my hard earn money only to have to put up with this battery crap.

Apple said that they're fixed the battery bug in 5.0.1. To my dismay after installing the update, my battery life is now worsen.

I've mention this issue to all my friends and families.

They definitely staying away from your new iphone 4s product until this issue gets solve!

Just to break up the tension:

http://m.collegehumor.com/#/video/6648229/siri-argument

I just got my new IPhone 4s 64gb, was very expensive Im not a new Verizon customer and could not get upgrade , I ended paying retal price, very disappointed about the battery life , was fully charged when left home in the morning , by noon it was on 50% and  I didn't enjoy it yet , couple more call of a minute each , the battery was on 35 % I didn't have Juce to get back home . That's BS! but that not what is buging me , what upset me more is the fact the APPLE , still selling those phones like  everything is ok , making money when all the people is complaining since the first day they start selleng them , Where is the solution to this problem ? , why should I turn some apps off or Siri off , wifi off, if I paid for use them , why did they offer those services in the beginning , if I won't  be able to use them ? Does anybody  can answer these questions?

Im still very upset , this is a really waste of money ...

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miless wrote:

 

You are comparing open with close.

Google and Apple

Google does things openly ...

Apple is always closed....

 

 

google by far has the largest closed propreitary software systems on the internet.  google search, location services, gmail, maps, google+, google analytics, google adware are all extremely closed proprietary and limted interfacing

apple, on the other hand, is one of the largest comercial contributors to opensource including bonjor, webkit, darwin and many quicktime technologies.

in sum, both companies have very closed and open technolgies.  the big difference is that one company is much more hypocritcial about it then the other...

Closing the apps doesn't guarantee an issue is solved.  Hence sometimes the suggestions to erase all settings and not restore from backup or to do hard resets to kill other process that are installed or launched because of apps.

For me, I found my iphone on wifi mysteriously connecting to my mac.  I eventually narrowed it down to the Apple Move Trailers app which keeps a file in iCloud.  The phone was trying to sync the file with the mac in the background even when the Movie Trailers app was closed (hitting the red x).  Based on my macosx logs the iCloud process that was trying to sync was working directly between the phone and the mac without using itunes by connecting to an https address hosted on the phone.  It was connecting every 3 minutes and failing (while phone was awake or awake during during a notification).  I also found that iCloud control panel on OSX would error if I tried to delete the file.  I fixed it by removing the App and doing a hard reset which stopped the sync.  I probably could have turned off iCloud document sync in the phone but didn't think of that.  My battery life has greatly improved while at home on wifi.    I am now at 28 hrs standby, 2 hrs 20 minutes of usage, and 68% battery.  It was ok before where I could get 20-30 hrs standby and 6 -8 hrs usage.  My usage today was phone calls, 3g surfing, and music via bluetooth in the car.

I also found even with Itunes iMatch, if I mass updated tages, art work etc, it would hit the phone on wifi even in standby.  I was amazed.   Granted if I am not doing updates, Match won't hot the phone so this was a once in awhile event.  I could drop my percentage by 5-10% in a matter of minutes when doing updates.   I think a lot of our problems are background processes, associated with iCloud, notification, and apps.  More features means more battery.   I think the key thing is to keep track of what has recently been added or changed if battery life gets worse all of a sudden.   It may be an app that was recently installed and if possible you may want to completely remove it and not just quit it.

davidch wrote:

 

miless wrote:

 

You are comparing open with close.

Google and Apple

Google does things openly ...

Apple is always closed....

 

 

 

google by far has the largest closed propreitary software systems on the internet.  google search, location services, gmail, maps, google+, google analytics, google adware are all extremely closed proprietary and limted interfacing

 

apple, on the other hand, is one of the largest comercial contributors to opensource including bonjor, webkit, darwin and many quicktime technologies.

 

in sum, both companies have very closed and open technolgies.  the big difference is that one company is much more hypocritcial about it then the other...

Voila... that's another way of looking at things.

When i said google is opened, what i meant was Android, their open moat as a strategy to defend their closed proprietary search, ads cash cow fortress.

When i said apple is closed, what i meant is their sandbox approach... to prevend 3rd party from "destroying" their beautiful creation (Jobs' ideal) and distort mainstream users' ability to use the product out of the box, which of course many so call "power users" and hackers hate.... myself include sometimes.

I like both their approaches, and dislike (but live with) both their idiosyncracies. ... hypocritical or not.

Jobs way of running Apple is such that, it has always given users, customers or their partners, an air of snobbishness about them, coupled with its super cool design, zero learning curve usability and fantastic quality of their product; created this ultra desirability which no other product could match. Not BMW, not Flos, not Leica.

I think this is his style and his way of doing things. Its like, you dont need to know how it works. We'll figure it out for you, and it just works for you. Feels like arrogance to many people. That's why many first time customer feel that they are being snobbed at with a problem they cant solve, yet Apple is keeping quiet about it, and refuse to participate in any form of open dialogue like how Google did and/or any other company would have done.

I guess i have learnt a lot more about Job's brilliance as well as his narcissistic nature (tho not entirely true description of him) from Isaacson's book, than i have ever before, that i have come to understand the way how Apple, as a company, works.

I to was having problems with battery life after supposed update, yesterday morning I fully charged the phone and kept using until it went completely flat and turned itself off, about 8.5 hours. I then fully charged the phone and today the phone has been in use for 7.5 hours on and off and is only at 82% !!!!!!!!.

Hope this helps some of you?