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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Nov 25, 2011 7:57 PM in response to davidch
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    Nov 25, 2011 7:57 PM in response to davidch

    Fair enough, I take back what I said in the sense that 0.47% is indeed less than 0.5% - although one could say it is negligeable. I would ask if you have anything "on" on the phone with such standby drain i.e. push/pull mail, FB or twitter or similar apps with notifications and such - do you leave the phone on airplane mode or cellular data off during standby and close background apps? My point here is figuring out if a normal setup yields 0.5% on standby or if it yields 0.5% + a margin more, based on setup.

     

    I can appreciate the fact that you replied, the fact you help other fellow users, and your tone. I will add a few things here, and because of my stance in the forum, I have to add that nothing of what I say is meant as irony or sarcasm.

     

    -The 3% drain you alluded to looks good, yet I would ask, on top of what I asked earlier on, if this drain is linear throughout the entire charge - as on more than one occasion, the battery indicator was "flaky".

    -I acknowledge that you and buxbuster are readily helpful, yet I would ask why then do you only have 5 points and him, 0 points. Yet you guys have been more helpful here than the multi-level guys. What I'm getting at is this awarding of points is based on what after all - being helpful or being politically correct? The answer is simply that multi-level guys rehash KB stuff onto clueless users. Mind you they're good at it and it is helpful, yet they could easily be replaced by DrPork's support bot, and one day they will be. The point is there is not much creative support like you guys have been doing because the policy is that uncovering the gist of a complex issue is not "support", it is rather "engineering" and it would look bad and weak to do that in these forums. Rather what happens here is briefed to people "up there" and silence is maintained. I make the argument that it would be really empowering for the user base to collaborate with higher level Apple ressources beyond receiving a phone call.

    -You should not forget that the remedy you talk about is really only resetting the phone and going through one full charge cycle. It is not rocket science. I'm not even a smartphone user but doing what you advise goes without saying for someone like me. I believe either all users should be educated in doing so (by Apple), or the patch should disclose the need to do that and implement it i.e. say "this patch will reset your phone and then will drain it to shutoff - we ask that after that you fully charge the phone to 100% before using it". In the case of buxbuster, his "remedy" is actually conceptually the same but applied to iCloud. But you know what, despite that, if someone comes here and he has an issue, and you "solve" it through resets, then you've done more for him than the multi-level guys and Apple itself - and I commend that.

    -I am certain that you guys don't help out of bias, yet that doesn't mean you can't be biased nevertheless. I do believe your summarizing my contribution as "grumbling" is testimony to that. Mind you I don't really care as I know what my contribution is and I stand by it entirely. The truth is a bit annoying as I'm not an Apple fan, but it is that if all my constructive suggestions were implemented (I did rant on many occasions, I'll concede, but always in a thought provoking way), support for the end user would be better, more efficient, more pleasurable and more intelligent. Some of my suggestions cannot be implemented because it's how Apple is, and I don't have to live with that, but people who come here do. Hence the shame.

     

    You see davidch, I'm not as much about grumbling and rant as you think.

    Take care.

  • by Jim Bob, Wasilla,

    Jim Bob, Wasilla Jim Bob, Wasilla Nov 25, 2011 8:45 PM in response to davidch
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    Nov 25, 2011 8:45 PM in response to davidch

    Firstly if I want to grumble about Apple you of all people will not stop me. Got it pal?

     

    I have bought a $1000 phone in good faith and it doesn't work as advertised. It is not fit for purpose so Apple better do something about it quick or they'll have a BatteryGate on their hands.

     

    What a pi$$ poor record apple have with their releases. Every single one has had problems but Apple followers just live in denial. Shame really as Apple rely on this to push out inferior hardware/software and charge stupid prices to boot.

     

    I've got a new Apple Airport Express and iPhone 4s and they don't like eachother. See other threads.

     

    If Apple can't design two bits of equipment which are meant to talk to eachother seamlessly but don't, then what does that say about the company?

  • by Hotphil,

    Hotphil Hotphil Nov 25, 2011 9:03 PM in response to Jim Bob, Wasilla
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    Nov 25, 2011 9:03 PM in response to Jim Bob, Wasilla

    Jim Bob, Wasilla wrote:

     

    I have bought a $1000 phone in good faith and it doesn't work as advertised. It is not fit for purpose so Apple better do something about it quick or they'll have a BatteryGate on their hands.

    The appending of "gate" to anything bad always make me cringe. No idea where/when how that started. My guess would be the Watergate scandal. Which had nothing to do with water.

    Anyways, if it's not fit for purpose, return it and get a refund. Problem solved.

  • by KiwiAdventure,

    KiwiAdventure KiwiAdventure Nov 25, 2011 9:11 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 25, 2011 9:11 PM in response to Scarface.

    It's Saturday in New Zealnd and my 4s looks to only last 8 hours with no phone calls.

     

    Come Apple fix the battery problem or replace the phone with a better battery. My old 3g lasted two days over a weekend the 4s doesn't even last a day.

  • by Kinst,

    Kinst Kinst Nov 25, 2011 10:15 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 25, 2011 10:15 PM in response to Scarface.

    How to switch PUSH notifications off?

     

    Actually I'm partly in the boat as my iPhone (4s, 5.0.1) is able to live 24 hours even with very active use... But if it could be better - why not.

     

    The question is about PUSH as it indicated as battery drain reason. I found in settings direct mention but in MAIL section, and I guess it works only on mail accounts. But I put it to OFF. Then, at NOTIFICATIONS settings I remove almost all programs "out of notification center". And in that list I set to OFF all green switches at every program.

     

    BUT! Today I receive a news from application which is for sure was not launched (I use it a days ago and I every time clear the background list). This mean PUSH, am I right? And this mean it's active! Inside this app (Magic Piano) I found no other settings.

     

    The question is - how to CHECK and how to OFF apps using PUSH?

     

    Thanks!

  • by kostas137,

    kostas137 kostas137 Nov 26, 2011 12:05 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 26, 2011 12:05 AM in response to Scarface.

    Same here on iPhone 4s 10%/hour

  • by buxbuster,

    buxbuster buxbuster Nov 26, 2011 1:21 AM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Nov 26, 2011 1:21 AM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    After all, conceptually, all you guys are doing is sanitizing harware/software elements with reinitializing - something Apple should have implemented directly within their 5.0.1 patching process. Furthermore Apple should "burn in" the batteries directly at the factory to save time for its users. There is no magic.

    Solving a problem with just a few tweaks is extremely magical to me. It shows beauty and grace if you solve a problem in the easiest possible way. To point out where the problem is , that's one thing, to actually be able to solve it outside the box itself is another. The solutions themselves can be very simple but in order to find just the right sequence is an enormous task.

    Just to give you an impression I'll paste my iPhone battery Numbers sheet below. I use it to track my iphone battery drainage workaround activities and results. Almost every row is a measurement.

    buxbusters_testsheet.png

     

    Regards.

  • by ahbin,

    ahbin ahbin Nov 26, 2011 1:49 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Nov 26, 2011 1:49 AM in response to Scarface.

    100% Full Charge at 10:20am.

    It's now 5:45pm at 96% battery life.

     

    Used it briefly for an incoming call.

     

    Usage: 20 minutes.

    Standy: 7 Hours, 25 Minutes.

     

    Fixed?

     

    What I did:

    Turned CELL NETWORK SEARCH off.

     

    Hope this helps someone.

  • by ahbin,

    ahbin ahbin Nov 26, 2011 1:51 AM in response to ahbin
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    Nov 26, 2011 1:51 AM in response to ahbin

    Oh and I turned off PUSH for all email accounts.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Nov 26, 2011 2:25 AM in response to buxbuster
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    Nov 26, 2011 2:25 AM in response to buxbuster

    buxbuster wrote:

     

    Solving a problem with just a few tweaks is extremely magical to me. It shows beauty and grace if you solve a problem in the easiest possible way.

    [...]

     

    Regards.

    You're a hopeless romantic, but that's all right. I don't mean that as an offense. Maybe it's something in the Apple user base psyche I had failed to grasp. I just wished I had been able to see your actual data, yet I never questioned the efforts you guys put into this... quite the contrary. It may also be I underestimate my experience in terms of support.

     

    So good luck with all that!

    Regards,

  • by hdradaza,

    hdradaza hdradaza Nov 26, 2011 2:29 AM in response to ahbin
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    Nov 26, 2011 2:29 AM in response to ahbin

    I posted a few pages back the other day that out of all the settings this is the one setting that really made a difference.

     

    CELL NETWORK OFF.

     

    This can be found under LOCATION SERVICES then on the bottom SYSTEM SERVICES.

     

    It has also minimized my phantom usage, and now I am getting a more realistic reading in the USAGE setting.

     

    For those of you who haven't tried it yet, please try it, and if it works, let us  know!

  • by jessica r.,

    jessica r. jessica r. Nov 26, 2011 3:24 AM in response to jessica r.
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    Nov 26, 2011 3:24 AM in response to jessica r.

    Update:

     

    I bought an iphone 4S 16GB on 5.0 on Wednesday, and I found about this tread today. Here is my status after 2 completely charging cycles.

     

    Always OFF - bluetooth, push, setting time zone, location-based iAds , celular data, iCloud

     

    Always ON - WiFi , Siri (with raise to speak) , all other location services

     

    IMG_0037.PNG

    what you think guys ?

  • by buxbuster,

    buxbuster buxbuster Nov 26, 2011 3:35 AM in response to jessica r.
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    Nov 26, 2011 3:35 AM in response to jessica r.

    Hi Jessica,

     

    I can't really judge if you have a problem with your battery, since I don't know what you did in those 6 hours usage? Although a complete drainage to 0 percent battery with light usage in 1 day is not according to spec.

    Can you try to leave the phone idling for an hour and mark your usage and battery loss in that hour? That tells me more.

     

    Regards.

  • by jessica r.,

    jessica r. jessica r. Nov 26, 2011 3:44 AM in response to buxbuster
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    Nov 26, 2011 3:44 AM in response to buxbuster

    @buxbuster before I went to sleep the battery level was 19% , after 8 hours 20min  of not using it the battery droped to 14% ( usage 5 hours, 25 min standby 1day, 0 hours) , after that is like on the screenshot. Thanks in advance !

     

    edit:

    here is a screenshot IMG_0036.PNG

  • by buxbuster,

    buxbuster buxbuster Nov 26, 2011 4:09 AM in response to jessica r.
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    Nov 26, 2011 4:09 AM in response to jessica r.

    @jessica :

    The battery dropping 5 percent in 8 hours idling seems pretty okay to me. In setups without the battery drainage those numbers are almost the same. In setups with the battery drainage you would lose more than 25 percent charge in 8 hours and that is (probably) not the case here.

    But that is only my verdict. Maybe others would like to comment too because only 1 day of standby with a full charge and light usage is very low.

     

    Regards.

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