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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by kingsorder,

    kingsorder kingsorder Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM in response to phambinh
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    Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM in response to phambinh

    i still have the same battery problem since day onw on the ip4s ,black only , white one is fine, new problem surface since the 5.01 update . the i message sometime would not work , 3g will stop receiving signal (will work after turning phone on / off at the same location) . no carrier signal (again have to turn phone on and off) . Apple , can you please address these issues asap , because fido would not give me refund since its already been use .

  • by Mynet,

    Mynet Mynet Dec 11, 2011 9:44 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 11, 2011 9:44 PM in response to Scarface.

    Possibly, you might get better battery performance by adjusting down the screen brightness. Also, check your apps to see if they are working continuously in the background. Some of the SimCity type games seem to never stop updating and accessing the internet.

     

    Overall, I must say that the iphone 4s has been an excellent product!

  • by Tamarillo,

    Tamarillo Tamarillo Dec 11, 2011 10:26 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 11, 2011 10:26 PM in response to Scarface.

    Day 48 in the morning: Wake up with 94% and phone connected to charger - GREAT !

    Losing 2% every hour with nothing on - GREAT !

    I made yesterday a full reset and lost all my notice - GREAT !

    No solution, no apple statement, keep waiting - GREAT !

  • by miless,

    miless miless Dec 11, 2011 10:48 PM in response to Tamarillo
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    Dec 11, 2011 10:48 PM in response to Tamarillo

    Tamarillo wrote:

     

    Day 48 in the morning: Wake up with 94% and phone connected to charger - GREAT !

    Losing 2% every hour with nothing on - GREAT !

    I made yesterday a full reset and lost all my notice - GREAT !

    No solution, no apple statement, keep waiting - GREAT !

    Switch off the phone.

    Restore iOS 5.0.1 via iTunes

    Reset network settings

     

    if you have not done the above, ... your ranting is PRICELESS.

  • by Tamarillo,

    Tamarillo Tamarillo Dec 11, 2011 10:51 PM in response to miless
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    Dec 11, 2011 10:51 PM in response to miless

    You saw my words: "I made yesterday a full reset and lost all my notice - GREAT !"

    That is what you call:

    Switch off the phone.

    Restore iOS 5.0.1 via iTunes

    Reset network settings

     

    What should i do more?

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Dec 11, 2011 10:56 PM in response to miless
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    Dec 11, 2011 10:56 PM in response to miless

    @miless

     

    Restoring iOS 5.0.1 from iTunes, and/or "Reset network settings" does not fix the issue of battery drain or the static noise issue!!!

     

    Have you miless check if you are affected by the static noise issue? I bet that you have it too!

     

    There are 475 pages here still no conclusive solution has not been found for fixing the battery drain issue.

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Dec 11, 2011 11:18 PM in response to Tamarillo
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    Dec 11, 2011 11:18 PM in response to Tamarillo

    @Tamarillo

     

    my iPhone 4s gives in standby mode the following:

     

    1) like a "dumb phone" with everyting off (wifi, 3G, no emails, no push, no icloud, no location, etc.) except "ready for normal phone calls" => I get ~0.5% battery drain per hour in standby mode (this gives ~200 hours in standby which is what the specification says)

     

    2) wifi on, 3G on, email set on fetch every hour and everything else is off (no location, no push, no iCloud, etc.) => I get ~1.5% battery drain per hour in standby mode (this gives ~67 hours in standby which is far from 200 hours)

     

    NOTE: Please, note that these numbers are for standby mode!!!

     

    When I am browsing in a moving car using Safari thru 3G I get a battery drain of ~1% per one minute!!!

  • by Tamarillo,

    Tamarillo Tamarillo Dec 11, 2011 11:21 PM in response to enx23
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    Dec 11, 2011 11:21 PM in response to enx23

    Thx enx23,

    i know what is the difference between stand by and using - i also know what is the meaning of 200h OR ...OR.

    The most infurating thing is the drain it is not constant at same using - i have to carry the charger with me.

    The second phone has no 3G Data, no wifi, no bt....nothing only 30 min music with standard earphone + 10 min call per day and has the same consumption. Believe me this is a hardware issue - we can play with the settings and change nothing.

     

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/12/11/apples-battery-problems-with- osx-10-7-lion-and-what-it-tells-us-about-apple-becoming-a-consumer-electronics-c ompany/


    http://www.thepunditreport.com/2011/11/apple-preparing-to-address-macbook-pro-ba ttery-issues.html

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Dec 11, 2011 11:45 PM in response to Tamarillo
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    Dec 11, 2011 11:45 PM in response to Tamarillo

    @Tamarillo

     

    You are welcome Tamarillo!

     

    i know what is the difference between stand by and using - i also know what is the meaning of 200h OR ...OR.

     

    I didn't mean those explanations for you. I wrote almost in every sentence "standby" just not get not-so-smart-replies afterwards because people didn't read carefully my post.

     

     

    The most infurating thing is the drain it is not constant at same using

     

    I agree 100%. I have exactly the same thing. The drain is not constant and also it is not predictable.

     

     

    The second phone has no 3G Data, no wifi, no bt....nothing only 30 min music with standard earphone + 10 min call per day and has the same consumption. Believe me this is a hardware issue - we can play with the settings and change nothing.

    I believe you. I believe that this is a hardware issue. I have written this in this forum many many pages before. Too much time has passed without having this issue fixed.

     

    I guess that now Apple tries to fix the hardware issue (maybe there are several hardware issues) by trying to fix it using software updates (and experimenting in their labs right now). I guess that this gets even more complicated by the fact that iOS 5 is "young" and has lots of bugs!!! This fits nice nicely with the image of "sellers from Apple stores changing/swapping easily the iPhone 4S". They basically try to buy some time (and wasting our time) to figure out what they should do (recall iPhone 4s or they can still fix it thru software updates).

     

    With every day which passes without having this issue address we are heading more and more towards a recall of iPhone 4s.

     

    I guess also that most of iPhone 4S are affected by the battery drain issue but people just do not notice it for many reasons (like for example: they use their iPhone 4S as a dumb phone most of the time, i.e. no wifi and no 3g and then the battery life is ok).

     

    Also one should keep in mind that 80% of the iPhone 4S are affected by the static noise issue which is a hardware issue too.

  • by miless,

    miless miless Dec 11, 2011 11:51 PM in response to Tamarillo
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    Dec 11, 2011 11:51 PM in response to Tamarillo

    Tamarillo wrote:

     

    You saw my words: "I made yesterday a full reset and lost all my notice - GREAT !"

    That is what you call:

    Switch off the phone.

    Restore iOS 5.0.1 via iTunes

    Reset network settings

     

    What should i do more?

    Drain the battery till the phone switch off by itself

    Charge the phone up to 100%... keep it there for another 2-3 hours.

     

    monitor again, the life...

     

    next step if above fails .... change your SIM card to a new microSIM.

     

    disable auto send diagnostics to Apple.

    disable Facebook location services

    disable  location services>system services> diagnostics & usage, location-based iAds, setting time zone.

    disable notifications>calendar>notification centre>off

    Reminders with location alert ... disable it if you dont use it.

     

    i think thats all its needed to be done... and of course, all apps that do not need location services, disable them.

     

    good luck.

  • by Hotphil,

    Hotphil Hotphil Dec 11, 2011 11:52 PM in response to enx23
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    Dec 11, 2011 11:52 PM in response to enx23

    enx23 wrote:

    I believe you. I believe that this is a hardware issue. I have written this in this forum many many pages before. Too much time has passed without having this issue fixed.

    There may well be some hardware-affected units out there, but the fact there are many people who seem to have been able to get battery life by resetting their phones would suggest that most of the problems are software ones. And there's the tested example where two identical 4S's, one with bad battery life, one with good battery life, were restored from backups of each other - the bad battery life followed the software, not the hardware.

     

    I tell you what though, I'll probably not have another Apple product. I just can't believe the way they've handled what is clearly an issue. All those opinions of the brand I'd formed over years but not actually owning one have been blasted away - they're actually worse at usability than anyone else.

  • by miless,

    miless miless Dec 11, 2011 11:56 PM in response to enx23
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    Dec 11, 2011 11:56 PM in response to enx23

    enx23 wrote:

     

    @Tamarillo

     

    The most infurating thing is the drain it is not constant at same using

     

    I agree 100%. I have exactly the same thing. The drain is not constant and also it is not predictable.

    The battery indicator is inconsistent... which is software issue.

    Also one should keep in mind that 80% of the iPhone 4S are affected by the static noise issue which is a hardware issue too.

    I do not have static noise issue at all.

     

    My 4S did initially have some battery issues. Drains fast.

    but with tweeking, restoring, and more tweeking... charging, drain to zilch, charge it up again.

    Now, i am having a normal 4S. as normal as my previous 4. In fact it gets better and better as i use it.

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Dec 12, 2011 12:18 AM in response to Hotphil
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    Dec 12, 2011 12:18 AM in response to Hotphil

    @Hotphil

     

    Hotphil wrote:

     

    enx23 wrote:

    I believe you. I believe that this is a hardware issue. I have written this in this forum many many pages before. Too much time has passed without having this issue fixed.

    There may well be some hardware-affected units out there, but the fact there are many people who seem to have been able to get battery life by resetting their phones

     

    Yes, I agree that resetting the iPhone 4S helps but it helps only for maximum a day or two and afterwards one is back to square one. Should I reset my iPhone 4S every day?

     

    Also turning off 3G and Wifi helps but what is the point of it on iPhone 4S?

     

    For example the static noise issue is a hardware one? Have you checked your iPhone 4s for it?

     

     

    And there's the tested example where two identical 4S's, one with bad battery life, one with good battery life, were restored from backups of each other - the bad battery life followed the software, not the hardware.

     

     

     

    I think that this example still does not exclude the hardware issue. For example let's assume that both iPhone 4s in this experiment have a hardware issue with the  Wifi/3G. If one iPhone 4S has the wifi off and 3G off and the other one has Wifi on and 3G on then just by swapping the backups from one to the another one would get the same result (i.e. like the issue has moved from one to the other phone)!!!!!

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Dec 12, 2011 12:07 AM in response to miless
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    Dec 12, 2011 12:07 AM in response to miless

    @miless

     

    Hi Miless, it looks like you got lucky! How long does your battery last? How often to you charge your iPhone 4s? Are you using Cellular data (3g)? Is Cellular data (3g) on all the time?

  • by miless,

    miless miless Dec 12, 2011 12:21 AM in response to enx23
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    Dec 12, 2011 12:21 AM in response to enx23

    enx23 wrote:

     

    @miless

     

    Hi Miless, it looks like you got lucky! How long does your battery last? How often to you charge your iPhone 4s? Are you using Cellular data (3g)? Is Cellular data (3g) on all the time?

    usually i unplug from the included charger in the morning at about 7am ... 100%

    end of the day when i get home at 8pm ... 60+%

    By the time i get to sleep there is about 45-48% left ... but i plug into the charger anyway.

     

    i use 3G when on the go, wifi when at home. On the go, i do email, imessage, sms, talk on the phone, go to app store to download updates (everyday.. via 3G if app is <20mb, via wifi if >20mb), twitter, facebook, camera, instagram, snapspeed, flipboard and zite (recently). bluetooth when im in the car. never switch off bluetooth (its on all the time). never switch off wifi. everything else is on except those mentioned above.

     

    maybe i got lucky. ... i can be counted as 99.93% of the possibly 20+mil iPhone 4S users who didnt have battery problem.

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