Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

thanks so much for the info. i don't actually remember what i did in that 9hr span, but what i remember is during night when i go to sleep ( 8 hours standby ) i loss like 6% that's good right? ang my iPhone's serial is C39G############ if that has something to do with it coz i've other replies w/ their serials. Anyways, i just want to maximize my iPhone's usage, the appropriate battery life they stated

Guizotia wrote:

 

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It makes me wonder whether a lot of people who think they have a problem might not really, but just get caught up in the high battery life expectation and "battery problem" hysteria? 

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It's just high battery life expectation doesn't appear out of the blue... it comes from a)misunderstanding of the spec and b)marketing. In both cases Apple can do better to educate the user and make a clearer spec. You yourself ignore the spec since you ask your question if the push is included in the 0.5% standby. Well Apple includes in "usage" background checking of email - so therefore it cannot be included in standby and has to be on top of 0.5%. Delay(for fetch), network conditions(for push) and load should differentiate the user drain at that point... Coming back to the spec, a typical pattern will be 5-6hours usage and 22hours standby. It is ridiculous to list a spec time that would involve not touching the phone at all from 100% to 0%... no one uses the phone like that i.e. 200hrs standby. Furthermore because there is always background processing, which counts towards usage, standby for the total duration of the battery is vitually impossible. It's rhetorical and confusing.

irinabells wrote:

 

[...] when i go to sleep ( 8 hours standby ) i loss like 6% that's good right? [...]

That means less than 1% per hour. I wouldn't worry if I were you! As was discussed in the last pages you can take a look at your mail setup and experiment with push/fetch settings, put the phone in airplane mode when you sleep or disable stuff etc, but you're quite close to the specs so why bother? Some people here who were having issues have had 7-20% per hour drain on standby...

Take care!

I also set 20 folders to push.  If its easy to do then you do it.  Maybe Apple should add better guidance in the options e.g. are you sure you want to set 20 folders to push?

Well I stopped by the Genius Bar this evening due my iPhone 4S bad battery getting worse than ever...  Today I wrote 22 text messages, one email, read a few news articles, received one phone call... Played NO gaves, did not view any videos....   Phone went from 100% to 0% by 3:00pm...  Yesterday it went to 0% by 6pm...   Light useage... dead battery...  I have eliminated all apps, except those I use on a regular basis...     8 apps use location services...  6 of them use notification services...  Don't dare turn on iCloud services...  Reset my iPhone system almost weekly to keep it totally refreshed, which turns out to be a joke...

Genius Bar advice...   My battery is just fine....   Wait for next battery software update...  Turn off my wifi...   Turn off my blue tooth...  Then he said that the telephone service used a lot of battery trying to connect to better cell towers... (I assumed he was hinting to turn off my phone as well)   He just recommended that I turn the iPhone into a 3 year old iPod...   I was very unhappy...  My iPhone 3GS & 4 battery was NEVER this bad...  And I never had to cripple the phone to get them to work....

I was with a friend today who runs his visual security system for his business from his new iPhone 4S (24 hours a day), plus is a heavier user than I am...  He say he only has to charge his phone every 48 hours...  So there are some great iPhone 4S out there THAT ACTUALLY WORK...

HOW DO WE GET ONE...  I AM TIRED OF PAYING GOOD MONEY FOR A CRAPPY PRODUCT!!!

IT IS CLEARLY NOT A SOFTWARE ISSUE, BUT RANDOM BROKEN IPHONES BEING SOLD TO US & WITH THE HOPE WE WON'T NOT NOTICE...

I MADE THE HUGE ERROR OF TRADING MY WIFE'S 3GS FOR A 4S & THAT BATTERY IS JUST AS TERRIBLE AND I NOW HEAR ABOUT IT EVERY DAY FROM HER...  I AM NOT A HERO IN HER EYES, SHE TOO IS VERY UPSET WITH APPLE PRODUCTS & NON SERVICE... HER COMMENT TO ME AS WE LEFT THE GENIUS BAR, "IS WHY DID WE BUY A PRODUCT LIKE APPLE, WHERE THEY TELL YOU TO QUIT USING MOST OF THEIR APPS IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK...   COULDN'T ANSWER HER!!!!!

To the original post, 3rd iPhone 4S replacement and sti dealing with tech support in which another is being sent. I've tried everything and then some. Here is the FACT: Apple remotely viewed multiple "diagnostic" readings from 2 of the 3 different phones in which they were reading incorrectly, yet they said that the battery was fine. They have "some" phones, which seem to be functioning properly where as other batches are lemons. They need to recalibrate their diagnostic tools because I don't appreciate being called a liar. View my 10% photo and tell me that I'm making this stuff up. They said the phone is within the standard. So I get the 3rd phone...each of the ear piece speakers fizzle with odd levels of distortion, the 1st and 3rd was hot enough to boil an egg, multiple resets and deleting iOS again and again, failed diagnostic readings, screen shutting off...blah blah blah! Crap product!!! I want my contract ripped up or Apple to get me a phone that works. 4 weeks and now the 4th try. Let's get your customer service skills going here NOW! 20 operators and 10+hrs of tech support time, I'm tired of this.

1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

 

irinabells wrote:

 

[...] when i go to sleep ( 8 hours standby ) i loss like 6% that's good right? [...]

That means less than 1% per hour. I wouldn't worry if I were you! As was discussed in the last pages you can take a look at your mail setup and experiment with push/fetch settings, put the phone in airplane mode when you sleep or disable stuff etc, but you're quite close to the specs so why bother? Some people here who were having issues have had 7-20% per hour drain on standby...

 

Take care!

6% in 8 hours standby when sleeping at night... not too bad. That's what i got the first 2-3 weeks i had the phone.

Now, my battery drain 1% in 7 hours standby when i sleep at night. ... It's been 45 days since i got the 4S.

It gets better and better.

I atttribute it to erratic battery indicator and/or runing in period

@1AppleADayNoWay

 

 

It's just high battery life expectation doesn't appear out of the blue... it comes from a)misunderstanding of the spec and b)marketing.

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c) bad specifications.

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d) bad iOS 5.

What about those people who installed iOS 5 on their iPhones 4, iPhones 3GS and they saw also the battery drain issue compared to iOS 4.X?

Clearly also iOS 5 hammers the battery and any iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS is not within their specification when using iOS 5!!!!!!

In both cases Apple can do better to educate the user ....

I do not want to be educated on my money after I have paid 700€ for a smartphone! Nobody needs a "smartphone-user license"! I want to be told clearly before I buy a smartphone about what are its limitations and specifications for every day life usage!

To me it looks like iPhone 4S lasts ~200 hours on standby when Wifi and Celular data are off and everything else is off or on manual (location, notifications, etc.). If I just turn on Wifi and Celular data immediately the iPhone 4S standby life drops to ~67 hours (still everything else is off or on manual, no notifications, manual fetch, etc.).

Did anyone see in the specifications that if Wifi is on and Celullar data is on the iPhone 4S lasts ~67 in standby mode (with everything set off or on manual)? I wish that I have been told this before buying iPhone 4S!

Guizotia wrote:

 

I also set 20 folders to push.  If its easy to do then you do it.  Maybe Apple should add better guidance in the options e.g. are you sure you want to set 20 folders to push?

Well, they should explain the difference between push and fetch, and not just suggest that turning off push may save battery life. I guess Apple are somewhat stuck between there existing complex conditions and them wanting an easy experience for the user. Push is affected by network conditions whereas fetch is not. But they can't know what your conditions will be, or your level of expertise in ascertaining what's happening. So one solution is for push to log and for the user to be taught to analyze his logs and for the logging tools to be intelligent, or for them to build something that will enable fetch automatically if push is always reset or inconsistent. But that doesn't address the issue of malformed data and the idiosyncrasies of the mail server or provider itself. This is why, amongst other things, I think I should use mail on my PC and skip this generation of smartphones lolll.

Good luck!

miless wrote:

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Now, my battery drain 1% in 7 hours standby when i sleep at night. ...[...]

so 0.14% per hour... are you sure it's not now that your battery indicator has become erroneous lollll. Seriously? That much below the spec? I mean even davidch has never been optimistic lolll. I don't have the phone, you do, but for the sake of support I think 0.5-1.5% is quite reasonable to start with. But if it gets better then more power to you!!!

Take care!

@woolie

woolie wrote:

 

Well I stopped by the Genius Bar this evening due my iPhone 4S bad battery getting worse than ever...  ....

Probably would help to tell them that your iPhone 4S does not last too long and you have to recharge it very often (like for example every X hours instead of 200 hours). If one tells that the battery is bad someone will check only the battery and not the iPhone 4S!!!

 

Genius Bar advice...   My battery is just fine....  

Exactly what I was saying.... they checked only your battery and I guess too that the battery is fine. The issue is with iPhone 4S and/or iOS 5. Probably there are some hardware issues because iPhone 4s and iOS 5 take much more energy they are supposed to!

You replied to me? I don't know what to say. Clearly some people have had terrible issues with the phone and some others not. I'm all for being demanding as a consumer and not settling for less that what you bargained for. That much I can say...

I mean sure, I was really more talking about a first time buyer who doesn't know about the spec, but what you say is valid i.e. other devices with 5.0.1, and knowing before buying. That's why I said the spec should be made clearer, with examples maybe and such. But are you really that attached to the 200hrs standby spec?? I mean, it's really about using the phone right... having updates when it sits, taking a peek etc. Someone who has no issue, from what I've seen here, will hit the 6hrs mark for 3G internet... there cannot be 200hrs on top of that... standby can only exist in what's leftover from real usage... if there's 6hrs 3G internet, there can be no standby at all no?

Don't take it out on me lolll. I understand you're unsatisfied by it all and I see why. You wanted more and the full options. This is why I questionned the 200hrs standby spec a long time ago. To me it's simply ridiculous. It's really a phone for which the battery will be maxed out during a 30hrs day with real usage.

But then I just lost 10% in 45 minutes of being outside of my wifi network.

With just some very light Internet usage.

So please ignore everything I said.

Day 50: No solution, no apple statement, keep waiting and something new: yesterday i turn all connections off to test "the real standby" and in the evening appstore shows one update ready to download (from one app i buyed) - *** how does this work?

This Phone drives me crazy!