Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

@ed_bot888

ed_bot888 wrote:

 

Regarding the voice call issues, i think it only happens when you are in a weak 3G area, and the fone trying to switch to 2G while still on a call.

I agree! It looks like iPhone 4S is not "smart" enough to switch smoothly from the 3G network to the 2G network even if the 2G network gives much better signal than the 3G network (for example 3G network gives 2 bars and the 2G network gives 5 bars)!

Also there is no toggle for 3G/2G anymore which has been removed in iOS 5.X.X

So now my white 4S is gone and I'm waiting for the 7th unit.

For the time I'm using my old 3G. And you know whats really interesting guys? This phone is really old. It still has more battery power than the 4S ever did.

@tombor

tombor wrote:

 

So now my white 4S is gone and I'm waiting for the 7th unit.

 

For the time I'm using my old 3G. And you know whats really interesting guys? This phone is really old. It still has more battery power than the 4S ever did.

You are completely right! I agree that iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 4 are much better from all points of view than iPhone 4S!

I recommend already to all my friends who are asking "what iPhone to buy" to buy iPhone 4 because is the best iPhone and it is also cheap nowdays comapred to iPhone 4s!

enx23 wrote:

There is science behind polls and they are NOT voodoo!

The thing you have to remember with those polls is that only people with a point to make will register a vote - the results aren't usually very representative.

But the fact is that the battery life on many, many iPhone 4S's suffer from a shockingly bad software issue (that's the only conclusion that can be drawn from this thread). Those on their 5th, 6th or 7th hardware units are still going to have the same software - so other than making a point to Apple's "returns" deparment (who just re-package those for the next person exchanging their new unit for a reconditioned one) there seems little justification in swapping a brand new bit of hardware for a repackaged unit.

@Hotphil

Hotphil wrote:

 

enx23 wrote:

There is science behind polls and they are NOT voodoo!

The thing you have to remember with those polls is that only people with a point to make will register a vote - the results aren't usually very representative.

Are you having the static noise issue?

But the fact is that the battery life on many, many iPhone 4S's suffer from a shockingly bad software issue (that's the only conclusion that can be drawn from this thread). Those on their 5th, 6th or 7th hardware units are still going to have the same software

If Apple would be 100% sure that it is a bad software issue then I am pretty sure that Apple Stores would have had not swapped so many iPhone 4s! Also more than two months have passed and the software issues have not been fixed! This tells me that the issues are much more deeper than just some software bugs!!! Already there is proof that the static noise issue is a hardware issue. I think that Apple even now after more than two months is still trying to find out if these all issues with iPhone 4S can be fixed via software updates or not and in the same time hoping that the buyers will not notice the issues!

If Apple would be 100% sure that it is a bad software issue then I am pretty sure that Apple Stores would have had not swapped so many iPhone 4s! Also more than two months have passed and the software issues have not been fixed! This tells me that the issues are much more deeper than just some software bugs!!! Already there is proof that the static noise issue is a hardware issue. I think that Apple even now after more than two months is still trying to find out if these all issues with iPhone 4S can be fixed via software updates or not and in the same time hoping that the buyers will not notice the issues!

This battery draining problem is so obvious that even an idi0t will noticed it! Unless Apple thinks that all iPhone buyers are more idi0t than idi0t. Without Steve Jobs Apple no longer making product 'just works', instead it's 'just suxx'!

@dannywonglh

dannywonglh wrote:

 

If Apple would be 100% sure that it is a bad software issue then I am pretty sure that Apple Stores would have had not swapped so many iPhone 4s! Also more than two months have passed and the software issues have not been fixed! This tells me that the issues are much more deeper than just some software bugs!!! Already there is proof that the static noise issue is a hardware issue. I think that Apple even now after more than two months is still trying to find out if these all issues with iPhone 4S can be fixed via software updates or not and in the same time hoping that the buyers will not notice the issues!

This battery draining problem is so obvious that even an idi0t will noticed it!

Actually is not that easy to notice because if one lives in a region without 3G network coverage (and uses 2G network) and has no Celular Data Plan then the battery is fine! The problems with the battery starts only and only when one uses the Cellular Data and the iPhone 4S connects to a 3G network! I guess that most of the iPhone 4S users do not have Cellular Data plan and also do not have 3G network coverage!

This is why Apple hopes that it will get away with it.

Also this is why one can see very often in this forum posts like "majority of iPhone 4S are working great"!

enx23 wrote:

 

Actually is not that easy to notice because if one lives in a region without 3G network coverage (and uses 2G network) and has no Celular Data Plan then the battery is fine! The problems with the battery starts only and only when one uses the Cellular Data and the iPhone 4S connects to a 3G network! I guess that most of the iPhone 4S users do not have Cellular Data plan and also do not have 3G network coverage! This is why Apple hopes that it will get away with it!

I dont think thats right. I think almost every iPhone 4S user has a cellular data plan? Because, why would you get an 4S then? You could buy an iTouch instead!

Apple made the big mistake to get rid of the 3G switch. I think it would have saved them lots of money by not doing that. I personally dont care if the internet is slower or that Siris responses aren't that quick (anyway, who uses Siri if not at home? Do anyone really talks to Siri in public?)

I still hope they'll bring it back one day. And to all people telling me it wont be possible, why can the chip then switch over to EDGE if theres low 3G coverage? I still hope for a jailbreak and the ability to turn the 3G off.

sbailey4 wrote:

 

I have verified this operation: If Raise to speak is off, and turn off iPhone (may have to twice) the sensor is off unless you make a phone call then it comes on until you hang up. Works like iPhione 4. If Raise to speak is on,.  anytime the screen is on so is the sensor but when screen is asleep the sensor is off.

Thanks for your answer.

Is the sensor off if you disable "raise to speak" and your phone shows the home screen?

Because it wasn't off on my phone. (Even after I switched off raise to speak) And I wasn't making any phone call at this time.

@tombor

tombor wrote:

 

enx23 wrote:

 

Actually is not that easy to notice because if one lives in a region without 3G network coverage (and uses 2G network) and has no Celular Data Plan then the battery is fine! The problems with the battery starts only and only when one uses the Cellular Data and the iPhone 4S connects to a 3G network! I guess that most of the iPhone 4S users do not have Cellular Data plan and also do not have 3G network coverage! This is why Apple hopes that it will get away with it!

 

I dont think thats right. I think almost every iPhone 4S user has a cellular data plan? Because, why would you get an 4S then? You could buy an iTouch instead!

I agree with you but this is what I have noticed. Also one could still buy an iPhone 4S instead of iPod Touch even he/she does not uses or does not have Cellular data plan in order to make phone calls (one cannot do phone calls with iPod Touch). If one has patient enough could read all the posts here and find posts from such users (for example I remember that one user posted here that he was having battery life of 4 days with his iPhone 4S but was keeping all the time the Cellular Data off and wifi off because he uses that Internet on computer so he does not need internet on his iPhone 4s!!!).

Outside of US is pretty often that one buys an unlocked iPhone 4S from an electronics shop and does not get "chained" to the carrier with a contract for 2 years!

enx23 wrote:

 

I agree with you but this is what I have noticed. If one has patient enoug could read all the posts here and see posts from such users.

 

Outside of US is pretty often that one buys an unlocked iPhone 4S from an electronics# shop and does not get "chained" to the carrier with a contract for X years!

Well thats true, for example I have a unlocked 4S but I still have a contract. Every person I know has a data plan on their iPhone. And even if you don't have an contract you may use a prepaid solution with data.

Maybe I was just not patient enough to read every single post here

I would more say theres a general problem with the hardware, it consumes too much energy. I mean, the uber intelligent genius guys at the apple store tried to tell me, thats because the 4s has such a strong processor and so on and so on. But c'mon guys. Thats just ********. It might consume a little more, but that much more? ****, no. Why would Apple then build it into a phone?

edit/ thanks @ apple for censoring my post. lol

@tombor

 

Well thats true, for example I have a unlocked 4S but I still have a contract. Every person I know has a data plan on their iPhone. And even if you don't have an contract you may use a prepaid solution with data.

 

I have also a Cellular data plan and my Cellular Data is on all the time on my iPhone 4S and as results the battery life is crappy and unpredictable (sometimes it dies in matter of 1 hour since it reaches 20% battery and sometime it lasts 12 hours). In principle I agree with you. Also many persons posting here have Data plan but I have noticed that those with good battery life are keeping it off (I do not get it what is the point of having Cellular Data off for iPhone 4s!!!).

 

Maybe I was just not patient enough to read every single post here

 

Do not worry... nobody reads them all either!

 

I would more say theres a general problem with the hardware, it consumes too much energy. I mean, the uber intelligent genius guys at the apple store tried to tell me, thats because the 4s has such a strong processor and so on and so on. But c'mon guys. Thats just ********. It might consume a little more, but that much more? ****, no. Why would Apple then build it into a phone?

I agree with you that in principle iPhone 4S should not draw more energy than iPhone 4. Even iFix has done a tear down on iPhone 4S and reached the same conclusion that the energy consumption for iPhone 4S should be the same like for iPhone 4 because most of the eletronic components are the same. iPhone 4S is just a small iteration from iPhone 4 and one does not have to be a genius to figure out that many things are the same in iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s from hardware point of view.

Cellular data is on, it always has been, I am in a 2G area, no 3G until I get to the nearest town I am aware of how these things operate on phones as do you I have been a bit of a mobile phone geek for far to long .  No static noise either by the way. I will say though although with good intent polls can be wrong as you know, you are using a subset of people that are online that itself is a flaw as the sample is biased to people who are online only and also complaining, your friends represent a very small sample as well, and you need to have a varied group on different networks globaly as the frequency the phone operates on also dictates the phones battery life, here in the UK for example 900Mhz phones use less power than those using1800Mhz, and 3G uses more again at 2100Mhz also some operators use 3G at 900Mhz like O2 in some areas now.

You cannot Also state 80% of the potential 27 million phones that may have been sold over the Christmas period world wide are also flawed. I know you are doing this for good reasons, and once again no offence is meant, but with the continuing sale of millions of phone per day means your results are bound be inaccurate I think. At the end if the day lets just hope the troubles people are having get solved or Apple come up with a answer and this continued speculation on what is and isnt happening comes to an end as none of us really have a real answer, but at least the information is here for Apple to see.

My battery has 45% remaining, thats after 5 hours of being at 100% is this normal? Doesn't seem right to me

I have "fair" standby times of about 30hrs. This is far below the specs but now we have to be satisfied with the little we can get. However, when I start to use safari to browse on 3G, the battery will drain alarmingly! 1%/min this is a joke, this phone is pretty much useless if you are not guaranteed a charger every 12hrs. My first iphone and am very disappointed to say the least!