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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Dec 30, 2011 1:42 PM in response to sbailey4
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    Dec 30, 2011 1:42 PM in response to sbailey4

    @sbailey4

     

     

    sbailey4 wrote:

     

    Thanks for providing that link.

    You are welcome!

     

     

    However the10 people polled  from the Korean newspaper does not indicate that 80% of ALL Apple 4s customers worldwide are having static/hardware issues.

    Most likely those 10 people have been chosen randomly so in my opinion it indicates that 80% of all iPhone 4S are affected by the static noise issue. It looks to me that in order to convince you otherwise I should ask every iPhone 4S owner if he or she has the static noise issue and this is not possible in a real life. I have better things to do!

     

    Also here is more about the static noise issue:

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3393647?start=750&tstart=0

    sbailey4 wrote:

     

    Thanks for providing that link. However the10 people polled  from the Korean newspaper does not indicate that 80% of ALL Apple 4s customers worldwide are having static/hardware issues.  Also interesting in the article it was stated:

     

    " the iPhone 4S is technically the same as the iPhone 4. Why should I pay more to buy the same thing? It’s nonsense to purchase the 4S just to show my personal tribute to the late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs,’’ he said. "


    So clearly they may not be a reallible source ...

    I think on the contrary that is a reliable source because that person says he had good faith in Apple and he says that he bought "the 4S just to show my personal tribute to the late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs". He didn't buy an iPhone 4S with the intention just to find flaws and complaing about it!

     

     

    as the iPhone 4 and 4s have a lot of differences. CPU, combined GSM/CDMA chipset, camera, battery,GPU to name a few.

    iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S have a lot common points (screen, same type of battery). The CPU from iPhone 4S draws more or less the same power as the CPU from iPhone 4 though.

     

     

     

    To be clear I DO believe there are some handsets out there in various parts of the world that are not behaving as they should.

    I believe that those "some handsets" are the majority unfortunately.

     

     

    But 80% of the iphones bad? Well I have to disagree on that statement thats all.

    Sooner or later we will see... I hope that I am wrong...

  • by jesse113,

    jesse113 jesse113 Dec 30, 2011 2:09 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 30, 2011 2:09 PM in response to Scarface.

    I just want everyone who goes on here to do research about the new iPhone 4S to not get discourgaged by all these negative comments about battery life. As a new iPhone 4s user, I've had practically every phone availabe, from Blackberries to Androids and even though BlackBerries had the best battery I've ever had on any smartphone, my iPhone 4S hasn't had any problems with battery life, and it's way better than my Android phone, which wouldn't last longer than a couple of hours and then I had to rush for a charger. With my iPhone 4s, I think the battery life isn't that bad for a smartphone, sure, if you're on it all the time the battery will go down a lot, but my iPhone can easily last me a full day of use/standby.

     

    I know when I came on here to do research on the phone before I got it I was a little ifie about getting the iPhone, but I'm glad I did. If you guys are having really horrible battery issues, you need to go in to Apple and have them replace your phone because there are iPhone's out there that have perfectly fine battery life, like mine.

  • by Tamarillo,

    Tamarillo Tamarillo Dec 30, 2011 2:37 PM in response to jesse113
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    Dec 30, 2011 2:37 PM in response to jesse113

    How long does your "magic" battery works? Please explain me the change of the phone regarding a software issue?

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Dec 30, 2011 5:37 PM in response to darylfromhilltown
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    Dec 30, 2011 5:37 PM in response to darylfromhilltown

    darylfromhilltown wrote:

     

    My phone was restored from my 3gs on itunes would this be a problem related to the battery ??

    It could but does not necessarily mean it will. If you are having battery problems then try the reset process mentioned. Follow exactly as written. It will keep your data and apps even when you select "setup as new".  If you are not having issues then I would not worry about it.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Dec 30, 2011 5:46 PM in response to jesse113
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    Dec 30, 2011 5:46 PM in response to jesse113

    jesse113 wrote:

     

    I just want everyone who goes on here to do research about the new iPhone 4S to not get discourgaged by all these negative comments about battery life. As a new iPhone 4s user, I've had practically every phone availabe, from Blackberries to Androids and even though BlackBerries had the best battery I've ever had on any smartphone, my iPhone 4S hasn't had any problems with battery life, and it's way better than my Android phone, which wouldn't last longer than a couple of hours and then I had to rush for a charger. With my iPhone 4s, I think the battery life isn't that bad for a smartphone, sure, if you're on it all the time the battery will go down a lot, but my iPhone can easily last me a full day of use/standby.

     

    I know when I came on here to do research on the phone before I got it I was a little ifie about getting the iPhone, but I'm glad I did. If you guys are having really horrible battery issues, you need to go in to Apple and have them replace your phone because there are iPhone's out there that have perfectly fine battery life, like mine.

    Jesse113,  I concur!   Most of the millions of devices sold are fine (others here will dispute that so not going there again) but the reality is most folks with awesome working phones are not in the support forums searching for resolutions to problems. Pretty much all my friends are not even aware there us a big hubla about iPhone 4s and battery issues. They bought phones and use them and love them. When I ask if they have battery issues or static or whatever they ALL 100% say Huh? Heck no its the best phone they ever had and cant imagine it working any better.  So yes there is  a lot of variables creating this for some iPhone owners out there. BTW what carrier do you happen to be on?  It appears than most folks with issues may be on GSM networks. Which is weird because all iPhones til recently were GSM and Apple recently started supporting CDMA handsets for carriers like Verizon.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Dec 30, 2011 6:46 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 30, 2011 6:46 PM in response to Scarface.

    Just passing...

     

    I think it's possible to be enthusiastic and loving and all, but sticking to the facts helps in terms of credibility. Some of you have feelings for this phone that surpasses normality and constitutes some form of anthropomorphism of sorts. For others it's just a piece of gadgetry. Or a phone in some cases.

     

    I talk about credibility because I've seen on the last couple of pages some disenfrenchising remarks about LTE and Android phones. Someone who may not be satisfied with his phone won't be more satisfied simply because a competitor's phone might yield less value. But then again, when you talk about value you have to be fair.

     

    That 4G is more costly in terms of power is a given. Yet some people do live in places where 100mbit fiber optics is commonplace and where data plans are much better than 40$ for 1Gb for phones. So many of them might be ready to trade battery life for speed, as they can put stuff on microSD cards or simply connect their phones to other equipment using OTG or mass storage standards and download data to their PC or use it for tethering etc. Some people might trigger multi-GB d/ls on the go and enjoy local playback in formats that go beyond what the Apple Store may yield. There is such a thing as a world outside the Apple ecosystem, and outside America I might add.

     

    Android devices have never had their forté in battery power - but saying that Android devices yield "a couple of hours of battery" is simply a tired joke from people who have never tasted back those uncharted Android waters. It no longer stands. It's such a cliché. Even in the US, someone like Joshua Topolsky reported that his Nexus on Verizon LTE yields 12 hours of use. Ok, this must include standby so it means he wakes up at 7 and by 7 at night he needs to charge, but he has flamboyant speed. (http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/16/2638466/galaxy-nexus-review-verizon-lte) I think he had 18 hrs with the non LTE enabled version. Plus there is such a thing as a 4G toggle on that phone. Finally, many Android phones have batteries that are serviceable - so it's possible to go that way too. Furthermore, it's also possible to find threads and learn how to freeze some processes on such phones for them to yield more usage time, and experienced users are treated with different mods etc. I mean, think different.

     

    That the iPhone is a great phone, I mean yeah sure it may be. But I think heavy users can be thankful that Apple didn't go the LTE way with this, yet they would certainly enjoy the benefit of a serviceable battery. But portraying those as "features" is a bit hard to swallow. Apple is pushing the envelope with this phone. As much as they wanted to control every single variable in the experience, the concept of software ecosystem and extra features undo the experience in some ways, and in my opinion this is becoming more and more of a "status phone" for lighter use. I think a segment of the power users are left out, uncatered for, and this explains in part what has happened with this thread - some people want and expect full fledged portable computers that last a full day plus with everything turned on and intense browsing and social integration. But this is a phone. It doesn't mean that Android phones are better or worst. One must weight value in context. None of this is black or white. It's about choice and need. Lifetsyle is overrated.

     

    Anyways, a Happy New Year!

  • by laker2000,

    laker2000 laker2000 Dec 30, 2011 7:21 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Dec 30, 2011 7:21 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    Until Apple fixes the problem, I have turned off bt, wifi and cellular data.  It works great most of the time and my battery last a 3-4 days.  During the last two days, the battery has been drainning like crazy; the usage and standby are equal. I verified that everything was off.  I even did the "reset all" trick but no luck.  Finally, I turned on cellular data, waited 30 seconds, and turned it back off.  That fixed the problem; now usage is lower than standby.

     

    wow! This iOS 5.0.1 is buggy as he11.

  • by BobWert,

    BobWert BobWert Dec 30, 2011 9:11 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 30, 2011 9:11 PM in response to Scarface.

    I would bet this is almost 100% software bug.

     

    After spending a long time reading this discussion, looking for a solution to my own 4S battery problem, it came to my attention that many users noted that the IR sensor is the main battery drain. Some stated that disabling Siri's 'Raise To Speak' function would make their batteries stand longer.

     

    Yet, some also stated that it made no difference. Others that the IR sensor seemed to be on all times.

     

    Using my Mac Photo Booth software, I made some tests looking for the IR sensor. It took me a few ons and offs and reboots to get Siri working with both 'Raise to Speak' and IR sensor off. Simply turning the 'Raise...' option does not disable the sensor, just as disabling Siri as a whole doesn't.

     

    It took me to disable both 'Raise to Speak', as well as Siri, and hard rebooting (PWR+HOME) to get the IR sensor of. After that, enabling Siri  with 'Raise to Speak' off will make your voice assistant work without draining all the Mojo you need your telephone to have through the day.

  • by prayerposition,

    prayerposition prayerposition Dec 31, 2011 2:06 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 31, 2011 2:06 AM in response to Scarface.

    Hey guys!

    I too have battery issues with my 4S. My standby time is pretty good but as soon as I use it I lose 1% every 2-3 minute, which is bad. Some ppl have said that this problem my get fixed if I upgrade to 9A406 (I currently have 9A405). My question is: How do I upgrade?? Can somebody please explain?

    Also, how do I restore my iphone without losing all my contacts etc? (browsed through this thread and it seems to be another alternative that might work).

     

    Thanks

  • by throy,

    throy throy Dec 31, 2011 5:23 AM in response to prayerposition
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    Dec 31, 2011 5:23 AM in response to prayerposition

    Just connect your iphone to itunes make sure you do a backup of your iphone by right click on your device in itunes and click backup.

    Then click restore which itunes will download the latest 9A406 and follow instructions.

    The Restore will do a full firmware flash to your device so it will wipe all your data but after the flash and its reconnected back to itunes just right click again on your device and select retore from backup if itunes didnt prompt you

  • by honig80,

    honig80 honig80 Dec 31, 2011 5:35 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 31, 2011 5:35 AM in response to Scarface.

    Hello ,

    happy new year

    i was surfing the internet and i just have found this info

    and i would like to post it ...

     

    http://gearburn.com/2011/12/ios-5-1-battery-drain/

     

    but anyway we wish that APPLE do something for this issue and not only keeping quiet and silent !!

    and we hope that the coming update 5.1 build (9B5127c) which is still Beta for the devolpers will fix the issue !!!!

    and that Apple must keep the good reputation which is always had !!

     

    Greetings,

  • by luis144,

    luis144 luis144 Dec 31, 2011 5:46 AM in response to sbailey4
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    Dec 31, 2011 5:46 AM in response to sbailey4

    Well, I have to post again just to let everyone know that I'm a happy iPhone 4S user again!

     

    I got to think that my iPhone was damaged, but it was a software issue and misconfigurations.

     

    At the beginning my iPhone was draining at a 10%/h rate, I managed to improve that by configuring it correctly (turning off some services and going easy on notifications and location services) and it improved to 5%/h.

     

    It was still not a good result so I started to research at this forum, and I installed 9A406 and restored from a "optimized configurations backup", but it didnt help at all.

     

    As a final steep what I did was a full factory reset and no restore from previous backup, and kept the iphone with no apps installed (and no mail, nothing at all, just like a new factory OTB iPhone)  for a day ... Battery started behaving as promised, 0,5%/h!!!! and the other issue I had with battery not getting fully charged was also gone (my battery was charging to 70% max!)  so hardware issue was out of the table. thanks to sbailey4 who gave me many advices on how to improve battery life.

     

    Now I've been enjoying a 1%/h since yesterday, with 3 e-mail account fetching every 30 mins, 3 or 4 calls of 5 mins aprox, no whatsapp, MSN Messenger online 24/7, and optimized settings for notifications and location services (please refer to previous posts to identify this settings).

     

    As a conclusion I must say: Restoring backups was causing me this issue, there´s something wrong with the process of backup restoration, something in the background gets misconfigured (I don't know what exactly) so please don't do it until a new iOS build comes out. Just configure your phone manually, I know this is a PIA, but is the only thing that worked for me.

     

    Just install 5.0.1 and after that do a settings reset (in my case I had to do a full reset, proceed as you wish).

     

    My iPhone was 100% charged yesteday's morning at 11am, right now (8:40am of the next day) my battery is at 75%! It works!

     

    Thanks again to sbailey4!.

     

    Greetings.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Dec 31, 2011 6:10 AM in response to luis144
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    Dec 31, 2011 6:10 AM in response to luis144

    Awesome news! Glad it worked for you. One more item you may want to consider is changing your fetch for email to manual.  There really is no point for your phone to check for mail every 30 min and just have it sitting there for you when you decide to read it. Manual will make it such that when you open your mail app to actually view/read your email , it will download right then all accts in a few seconds for you to read thus saving battery even further. Basically only gets email when you want to read it verses every x minutes. I am very glad it finally worked out for you. Hope you enjoy your iPhone now!

  • by Ofer Arbeli,

    Ofer Arbeli Ofer Arbeli Dec 31, 2011 6:13 AM in response to luis144
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    Dec 31, 2011 6:13 AM in response to luis144

    Can't agree if everything is off why should use such a sofisticated cell phone I can live happily with my Nokia 6210

    That can't do anything rather to get callers and some SMS messages

     

    This is not the way ,  as for yesterday I shut off cell data after that the raise to speak of Shiri 

    Now : standby of 1day and 8 hours

    Usage 4 hours 36 min

     

    Wifi 80% of the time  push mails and viber / what's app

     

    I feel like in myiphone 1st Gen with no 3G and no gps ...

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Dec 31, 2011 6:21 AM in response to prayerposition
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    Dec 31, 2011 6:21 AM in response to prayerposition

    prayerposition wrote:

     

    Hey guys!

    I too have battery issues with my 4S. My standby time is pretty good but as soon as I use it I lose 1% every 2-3 minute, which is bad. Some ppl have said that this problem my get fixed if I upgrade to 9A406 (I currently have 9A405). My question is: How do I upgrade?? Can somebody please explain?

    Also, how do I restore my iphone without losing all my contacts etc? (browsed through this thread and it seems to be another alternative that might work).

     

    Thanks

    Thory is absolutly correct. You can also "Reset all settings" at other times if need be and set up as new when asked (after the iPhone reboots) and thay will maintain you settings as well. Actually you should backup contacts with Outlook or iCloud etc for any future issues that may arise. Just to have a copy available

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