Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

not only do i have a spine, money, and intelligence in spades, I have 4 iphones (6 if you could my two originals that have been retired)

what you said was troll speak and everyone on the planet knows it.

Our planet is just a different one. You make it sound as if your qualities take a second place to your possessions. You forgot to mention your Apple TV and Macbook! Now you have it all in spades!!!

and my two imacs, three Macbooks,  macbook air,  ipad, and 6 or 7 ipods

thems be spades!

your planet: Trollville 

Don't forget your IIgs (say hi to your pal Sean btw!).

Coming from you this is really a compliment. I didn't think a simple, though long, opinion would upset you that much - yet that happened before and we were both moderated, despite what you implied.

Don't worry, later on your can browse your identities database and be comforted in the substance of your surrounding objects.

Let's just settle it by accepting that you and I will never be friends. And that's ok

This past week, i went into Applestore, expleained my situation with the battery drain. The apple genius i talked to was rude, and did not listen to anything i was saying. This is my 3rd IPhone 4s, with the same batter drain as the previous ones. What the genius inferred to me is that I just deal with it, because the phone does not meet my standard. But what the genius doesn't understand is that it's not my standard, but the standard that apple has on the battery specs for the 4s. He was so rude, after 40 minutes of frustration, he decided to replace my phone. Low and behold this new phone has the same problem. I wouldn't be surprised if they are giving me phones that have been returned with battery problems... 

with light use my phone does not last a day. everything on normal. even in airplane mode i have the same drain. sighs i'm getting tired of not being able to use my phone as a phone.... Even with a clean factory reset, nothing on the phone, same battery drain. Even with no sim card i get the same battery drain.

Here in the UK we have a consumer programme on BBC called Watchdog. I suggest any UK users who are not satisfied contact the programme researchers and put across their findings.

It has held many international companies to charge for poor customer service and shoddy products or misleading claims.

Sounds like this fits the bill.

Btw, an update from me; still getting around 36 hours standby with around 5 hours of usage mostly email/text/Internet browsing, since forced updating to 406 build. Not stellar performance but still good.

For those who drive to/from/for work, maybe worth checking out the Griffin Roatrip Handfree which I recently bought before the 496 build update. Music, charge and hands free calls whilst keeping you phone topped up.

Hi guys

I've been following this thread since I got my iPhone 4S (white 16GB) back in November. I tried everything you guys suggested and never got the result that was reasonable. I would lose 40-50% overnight in 7 hours on standby. I even (factory) reset the phone several times as a new phone without any backups. My boyfriend also bought one on the same day (black 32GB), so I had another phone to compare with but he never had any problems since the update 5.0.1

In the end, after about 4 weeks, I gave up and went to Apple. I told the genius the symptoms of my phone; he ran some test and the result (of the battery) was normal. So I thought they'd just repair it or so but instead I received a new phone. I wish I did it sooner and not waste so much time trying to 'fix' it myself as I thought the apps were the problem at first. With the new phone I restored everything from my computer and it seems to be normal now, actually perfect so far...

At the moment, my Usage is 4 hours, 35 minutes - Standby 1 Day, 8 hours and I still got 23% left.

If you have the same problem, I'd suggest to get an exchange as it's definitely the battery.

Not specifically in response to your post, but just to try to add an element of rationality to this discussion:

I am sure that all of us would like to have a smartphone that only needs to be charged once a week, and it would be nice if that recharge took only 10 minutes or so.  Sadly, this is NOT a reflection of the reality of the current state of battery technology.  Manufacturers must walk a fine line between a heavy, bulky, product, and one with shorter battery life.  So, they design for a battery that is small, light, and has the best charge density that they can put in the device within the budget for the cost of the device.  Users just want the phone battery to last forever, and only to charge it 'now and then.  The current reality is that if you want all the nice features, you pay with battery charging time.  If you want the battery to last a long time (critical with iPhones non-replaceable batteries), then you can't charge them too fast, and you can't 'deep discharge' them.  So, where are we?

It seems that some 4S phones have an electrical problem.  Clues are that they make noise (staticy noise) during charging, and get hot in use.  With the ultra-tight space constraints within the iPhone 4S, such things can happen.

I see complaints that the phone really needs to be charged daily, or more than once a day, in heavy use.  OK, how many of us have a lifestyle where this isn't feasible?  I have two computers, and both have charge/data cords plugged in, ready to charge my phone.  I have a car charger, so I can recharge in my car..  If I worked (I'm retired), then I am sure I could find either a USB port, or wall outlet around to keep my phone charging during working hours.  For those who are 'out and about' all day, and really can't recharge, there are add-on cases with alternative batteries that will surely power their phones all day, even with heavy use. 

Yes, there IS  a problem with some phones, and Apple should address this.  Yes, there are issues that are more than likely associated with IOS 5 software (it's new, and they are working on solutions). 

We all need to deal with this in a more rational manner, and be just a bit patient.  I strongly suspect that for most users with a definable battery issue, the problem is either a real electrical fault (and Apple will replace the phone), or expectations that exceed current technological/economic realities. 

And, please try to be nice.  Bashing Apple won't help, and flaming other posters won't either.

Hi rphunte42,

what do you think about Apple's behavior...i mean advertising features i have to switch off...i mean no support...i mean no information?

general reply:

i don't want to feel like i didn't complain, cause they say, when you have a problem, complain.. i guess. i still barely get through a day, and i don't do a lot with the phone. i don't even listen to music anymore, cause it drains the battery like crazy.

it's too late to just get a new phone, cause i got it back in november. i have tried restoring and all that, well anyway.. still *****, any word from apple? i've read they didn't even adress the issue in 5.1 beta?!

so this *****.. i was patient and hoping for a fix, but it seems it isn't coming and slowly i'm getting ******. i can't charge my phone all day.

just the current status for reference:

usage: 2hrs, 50mins (which is ********, i've only touched the phone for about 30mins today)

standy: 4hrs, 11mins

battery: 80%

sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse.

I've been having the usual problems of 'well below spec' battery performance. My 4s reports hours of usage even when the phone is in standby and flight mode. I've done a full factory restore/update twice now, the latest being 9A406. I've done the full drain and full charge every time. Even with no apps installed or any contacts imported the battery is still terrible and LOTS of usage reported when in standby.

Last night I charged to 100%, turned on Flight mode and left overnight. By this morning the phone had lost 16% power and reported 3.31 hrs of usage:

That's 2% per hour in flight mode/standby!!! That would equate to 50 hrs before completely drained - that's 25% of the Apple spec of 200 hrs. A normal day for me (not in Flight mode, obviously) would see at least 5% drop per hour with very, very little use. At best that would be 20 hrs standby - 10% of the Apple spec! I'm also getting a problem with the battery only charging to 96 or 97% and then reporting full. Other times the battery will say 100% fully charged but the moment I disconnect the charger it says 96/97/98%. I have done a full drain and recharge since this happened.

I have a Genius appointment booked for early next week at my local Apple Store, where I fully intend on getting the phone replaced.

@rphunte42

rphunte42 wrote:

 

Not specifically in response to your post, but just to try to add an element of rationality to this discussion:

 

I am sure that all of us would like to have a smartphone that only needs to be charged once a week, and it would be nice if that recharge took only 10 minutes or so.  Sadly, this is NOT a reflection of the reality of the current state of battery technology.

For example, Nokia E52 is a smartphone and the battery lasts a week!!! So indeed having smartphones which last a week is a reality!

Manufacturers must walk a fine line between a heavy, bulky, product, and one with shorter battery life.  So, they design for a battery that is small, light, and has the best charge density that they can put in the device within the budget for the cost of the device.

Manufactures get money for doing their job. They are not charities! The manufactures should do their job properly! Also the more difficult the job is the more money they get. So one should not feel pity that the jobs of phone manufactures is difficult!

Users just want the phone battery to last forever, and only to charge it 'now and then.

I have never heard anyone and I have never read on this forum that one is asking the battery to last forever. The basic requirement is that the phone battery should match the specification and the description with which is sold!

OK, how many of us have a lifestyle where this isn't feasible?

Again, this is not about how one uses the iPhone 4S or its lifestyle!!!!! This is about that iPhone 4S is discharging too fast compared to iPhone 4 or other phones.

For those who are 'out and about' all day, and really can't recharge, there are add-on cases with alternative batteries that will surely power their phones all day, even with heavy use.

This is ridiculous. After I paid a lot of money for iPhone 4S which has clearly issues with battery life, I (i.e. the client) should spend even more money to fix the issue by buying a add-on case with battery!!!!

Bashing Apple won't help, and flaming other posters won't either.

I think that bashing Apple helps!

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I've had a 4S for a few weeks now without any battery issues. The night before yesterday I activated iCloud. Since the I've had the same issue of 100% drain in very few hours. I'm going to switch service by service off now, starting with fotostream.

Hi enx23,

the next fine will be in Germany because if you buy in the Apple store ONLINE they accept returning only within 14 days - german law for online sale = 30 days without specifying any reasons.

Also the defects liability is 24 months from receipt.

@Tamarillo

Tamarillo wrote:

 

Hi enx23,

the next fine will be in Germany because if you buy in the Apple store ONLINE they accept returning only within 14 days - german law for online sale = 30 days without specifying any reasons.

Also the defects liability is 24 months from receipt.

I should check if the situation in my country (i.e. Finland) is the same like in Germany! I bought my iPhone 4S from the Apple online store.