Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

rphunte42 wrote:

 

, but most people have no battery issues.

 

I also think some people have unrealistic expectations. 

Judging from the number post in this thread clearly tells a different picture.

It's not unrealistic expectation. It's the specs that Apple claims is what disappoints people.

• Talk time: Up to 8 hours on 3G, up to 14 hours on 2G (GSM)
• Standby time: Up to 200 hours
• Internet use: Up to 6 hours on 3G, up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
• Video playback: Up to 10 hours
• Audio playback: Up to 40 hours

In reality the battery doesn't live up to anyway near the above specs.

iPhone 4S 16 GB, IOS 5.0.1

Using 4 hour, 43 minutes

stand-by   9 hour, 44 minutes

48% Battery left.

Is this normal or is this the ''battery problems''

* Already tryed

1: IOS 5.0 --> IOS 5.0.1

2:

- Turn of wifi

- Turn of mobile data

- Reset networksettings

- Turn on mobile data

- Turn on wifi

3: Turning off/on

Gr.

OK.  You went 1 whole day, with almost 7 hours of usage, and you still have 5% battery left.  That would seem adequate for most users.  Also, I noticed that you only show two bars on your cell service, which probably means your transmitter is running at a rather high output. 

Most users sleep 6 to 8 hours a night, so as long as the phone will last from when you get up until when you go to bed, and leave it on the charger, 16 to 18 hours, you should really not be inconvenienced.  My old phone wouldn't last through a day sometimes when I was in locations with bad signal strength, and was reading stories. 

rphunte42 wrote:

 

Smartphones are just small computers.  Have you ever noticed that your computer seems to be doing something all the time?  If you have the phone just sitting there, in airplane mode, and you have left 10 apps 'minimized', some of them are probably running.  It's a multi-tasking computer!  At the least, it is checking every minute to see if you have an appointment, alarm, or other event it needs to process.  Get a utility that lets you see what functions are actually running all the time.  You will be amazed, and it might lead you to some of that activity.

Maybe you should check Apple's implementation of "multitasking". Not all apps are designed to "run in the background" first of all. Second is that most of them don't actually run, they're just in a state that makes them come back to life faster. You shouldn't confuse the device internal processing with the apps in that state.

I always question people's enthusiasm for those expensive phones, I mean the cheapest knock-off digital watch is a "small computer"... it always does something i.e. keeps track of its time - and for a long time. Those smartphones are no great wonders at all one should marvel at. Maybe you should elevate your thinking... take a look at the Swiss atmos clock or quartz clock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmos_clock and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_clock) which are still real wonders in this life where people get impressed by devices simply because they process things - with tons of errors. If clocks were so bad at processing, we'd never have any reliable time. Real craft vs. smartphone processed cheese. This is compounded by the further fact that these smartphones don't last a day when you try to use them like real computers... I mean computing is quite much more than taking a couple calls and watching statuses pop up.

Finally, you comments on legal are just lame, for lack of another word at the moment. If you knew anything about it you'd know it's not solely about money, it's about precedent, especially with the setup they have in Europe. The stereotype that legal benefits only lawyers is such cliché.

Take care.

No use. Mine has been on Wifi all day but was draining anyway, until I turned Siri off. After that it became a bit netter. The problems started after activating iCloud

The 200 hour spec is useless in my opinion, given that not many people leave their phone on standby for 200 hours.  Thats nearly 9 days!  If you are in an area with really good 3G signal, I suspect 7 hours wouldn't be impossible.  Wi-Fi depends on your router, and what you are doing.  Transferring apps, and music, probably not.  Surfing the web, maybe.

Surely you are naive enough to belive manufacturer specs are anything but optimistic, taken under ideal conditions, and not representative of the real world.  Should you enter a class action suit, I am sure that Apple can trot out tests to verify their numbers.

"some people have unrealistic expectations" is bullsh*t. My 4S was doing fine until I activated iCloud and then used Siri. Since then it's been draining at enormous speed. It became better after turning Siri off. Or did you mean that iCloud and Siri are unrealistic expectations?...

Maybe, maybe not.  If you were running around hunting addresses with Maps, or were in a remote area where 3G was just barely available, or you had 3d games running, then you are doing just fine.  In any case, it looks like you will make a full day and can recharge overnight.

OK, and my laptop will run a whole 2 hours on battery.  That means if I can run my phone for a whole day, and I already have, and am at 73%, I think it is doing pretty darn good.

About the legal aspects...  Apple has tons (literally) of good lawyers, all over the world.  Sometimes they lose, but more often they win.  IF you could actually prove your case, and 'win' what would that do for you, other than the satisfaction?  Would it make your 4S battery last longer?

I use both Siri and iCloud, but only Photostream and Find my iPhone, as the others aren't feasible for me.  No problem with them.

And, yes, some people DO have unreasonable expectations.

Ive found out that the battery drops 1% every 4 minutes..So basically with the phone in usage all the time (no stand by ofcourse), It should get atleas 6 amd half hours of usage. With stand by time u can probably manage to get 8+ hours of usage im guessing

rphunte42 wrote:

 

OK, and my laptop will run a whole 2 hours on battery.  That means if I can run my phone for a whole day, and I already have, and am at 73%, I think it is doing pretty darn good.

About the legal aspects...  Apple has tons (literally) of good lawyers, all over the world.  Sometimes they lose, but more often they win.  IF you could actually prove your case, and 'win' what would that do for you, other than the satisfaction?  Would it make your 4S battery last longer?

But during those 2 hours you could actually use "real" apps and games. Like image editing, audio and video editing, and word processing - Photoshop, LightHouse, Final Cut and LibreOffice - with a keyboard and some Skyrim to close it off. But smartphone users are a lot into sub par processing - it's not only you. Nothing personnal.

As far as legal is concerned, well extending my warranty would allow me to get a full refund for a longer time. Consumer rights are worth fighting for. It's a matter of ethics and principle. That big businesses should be held in leash. That laws should apply equally to everyone - and there's no exception because you're a big firm. Businesses don't make laws - the People do. When you see users of a product speak against consumers rights like you've done and others before you, that is just appalling. I can't grasp why someone would take such a stance. You should be very demanding of your beloved company.

My 4S was losing about 20% overnight (8 hours) on stand-by and anywhere from 3% to 8% per hour on stand-by at work depending on what seemed to be the time of day and where I was at.   Not as bad as what many people are describing but still very poor performance.   The battery life has improved considerably and I have been satisfied with the performance over the past few weeks.  I have WiFi On, Cell Data On, Siri On, Bluetooth On, Notifications On and Location Service on.  For my last test, I purposely used the phone sparingly (3 hours music, 1 hour email/web) to see how long the battery would last:

I do have Siri Raise to Speak and Setting Time Zones off and do not use iCloud.  I also do not use the notification center.   The main change that has helped my battery life was setting to manually fetch.  I believe one or both of my email accounts (MS Exchange and Yahoo) have issues with the Push and Fetch Every XX Minutes option.  Using manual fetch is a compromise I can easily live with.  Also, if I do see my battery drainage start to accelerate (observed this a couple of times in December), I will look at the CPU Load/Wired Memory and if these areas look high then it's an indication that a runaway process is running in the background.  I will then kill the processes through power off, hard reset, soft reset, etc. 

I have also been running my 3GS on 5.0.1.  It had some battery issues but I was able to fix them through a restore.  It is 100% on WiFi and I do have the same email accounts on Push and that does not seem to affect the battery drain.  However, the battery is now losing 20% overnight on stand-by so I will go through my reset process tonight.

Good luck!

Hi folks,

I will tell you a story;

My wife have an iPhone 4S 64GB since day 0 (Nov 14th, 11) and battery life is terrible. Several days ago her phone get so hot so she cannot hold it in the hand. She called me and asked what to do with it,  my replay is: schedule appointment with apple store Genius bar ASAP.
Apple replaced her phone w/o any questions with bunch of appology's.

Now she have "new" phone and it hold charge not for 5-6 hours but for TWO DAYS till charge droped to 15% or less.

iPhone setup has been restored from latest available backup in iTunes. iOS 5.0.1.

Bottom line; I believed buttery life issue is not a software glitch but problem with hardware itself.

i have the same Battery Issue i Brought 3 days Before Iphone 4S 32 GB in Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia and did Update with 5.0.1 also

and watched whole days and nights here is my timing which i got from my iphone 4s

• Talk time: Up to 3 hours on 3G after turning of all locations, wifi and bluetooth
• Standby time: Up to 150 hours after turning of all locations, wifi and bluetooth
• Internet use: Up to 3 hours on 3G, up to 5 hours on Wi-Fi
• Video playback: Up to 3.30 hours after turning of all locations, wifi and bluetooth
• Audio playback: Up to 25 hours after turning of all locations, wifi and bluetooth

but apple claim this

• Talk time: Up to 8 hours on 3G, up to 14 hours on 2G (GSM)
• Standby time: Up to 200 hours
• Internet use: Up to 6 hours on 3G, up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
• Video playback: Up to 10 hours
• Audio playback: Up to 40 hours

But is not the way i brought so expensive phone to turn and remember what i have to do after every 5 or 10 mints to save my battery life

and i have also siri issue its not working as its mention

please give me feedback