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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Jan 7, 2012 4:29 AM in response to sbailey4
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:29 AM in response to sbailey4

    @sbailey4

     

    What is your estimation of the iPhones 4s which are affected by the static noise issue? It is easy to write that something is nonsense and sit and wait for god to give you the most correct percentage!

     

    You quote your friends. I quote my friends and a newspaper!

     

    If I take the mean of your estimate, which is ~0, and my estimate ~80% then one has that 40% of iPhones 4s have the static noise issue which is a hardware issue! 40% is still a huge number of iPhones 4s with faulty components!

     

    Also this forum has ~830 000 views. Let one assume that from these 25% have the battery problem with iPhone 4s. This gives that there are at least ~200 000 iPhones 4s with battery problems (in USA, Canada, and UK alone) which is a huge number! Also one should keep in mind that that the 830 000 views are coming mostly from USA, Canada, and UK!!! How ever you turn the numbers around they still look bad for iPhone 4s!

  • by tutin12,

    tutin12 tutin12 Jan 7, 2012 4:44 AM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:44 AM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    lollllll

     

    This simply means your battery indicator is flaky. As many people have experienced, the drain is not linear. If your device operates good it will drain about 0.5% per hour on standby and calls will drain about 12.5% per hour.  When you reach 1%, you'll be able to draw some valid conclusions. Your 30mins of calls have drained 6-7% of your battery whether the indicator shows it or not lolll. There is no magic involved. At 1% for 30 mins of calls you'd be making 50hrs of calls on a charge lolll.

     

    I never said 30 minutes of calls at 0%, I said 20 at 1%. Read better friend. I also never say usage is linear, I say usage with cellular off is obviously times better than with it on. If you got nothing useful to say, don't say anything.

  • by tutin12,

    tutin12 tutin12 Jan 7, 2012 4:52 AM in response to tutin12
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:52 AM in response to tutin12

    .. and to complete the stat, at this moment my phone has 6:45h standby and 40 minutes usage at 95%

    Yesterday at the same usage rate, about that time I had around 40% or less and would have under 20% in just 2 hours from now, which is obviously not going to happen today. Or you gonna bring again the issue of non-linear power usage? sheesh

  • by MKZA,

    MKZA MKZA Jan 7, 2012 4:56 AM in response to enx23
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:56 AM in response to enx23

    Really !!! No !!! Need !!! To !!! Exclaim !!! To me !!! In your reply!!!

     

    If you are here trying to deny a battery drain problem then you're one of those Apple employees (that don't read these forums) that's here trying to deny all is well. There IS!!! A battery drain problem dude, you probably don't even have an iPhone 4s so you're just playing guessing games. One forum post here dealing with the battery drain issue has run into over 530 pages of replies, what proof do you need more than that?

     

    My phone has drained 60% in the last 3 hours doing nothing!!! More than simple texting explain to me how that is the latest in high tech ? I have nothing else running on the phone.

     

    I don't particularly care if the new update is called iOS5.0.2, ios5.1 or ios999 the fact is that this battery drain issue IS real and a number of sources confirm this just google it. Apple just like Microsoft do NOT ever completely reveal everything that a new update addresses, most of the software industry works this way and has for 25 years already. Most updates from most vendors often end up fixing things that are not even listed in their release notes, I've been in the game for 28 years mate.

     

    I've learned one thing though is that these forums are filled with so called users who are actually apple employees spending time denying problems and disrespecting others users.

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Jan 7, 2012 5:04 AM in response to MKZA
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:04 AM in response to MKZA

    @MKZA

     

    If you would have read my posts for the last weeks you  could have seen that I am saying all the time that iPhone 4s has a battery life issue which is hardware issue related to 3G! All I am saying is that Apple is not working on fixing it because there is no mention of it in iOS 5.1 betas! Also I am saying that the battery life issue is a hardware issue which cannot be fixed with software or firmware updates!

     

    I have never written anywhere that iPhone 4s has no battery life issues!

     

    Check your facts before accusing anyone!

  • by MKZA,

    MKZA MKZA Jan 7, 2012 5:18 AM in response to enx23
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:18 AM in response to enx23

    Sorry if you felt I was accusing you of something, I've been on these forums for quite some time and have often found posts very clearly coming from apple employees. It is not possible for most people to go and read through 100's of pages of replies just to check who said what. If it is indeed a hardware problem and they cannot fix it then they must replace devices, can't sell me the most expensive phone on the market and then tell me that in order to have the battery last I must turn off all the features in ios5 that lured me to buy the device. That's false advertising last time I checked. As I said, I know this industry well enough that when things are being kept quiet by a developer they are aware there is a problem and are fixing it on the sly often not even talking about it or confirming it in their developer channels.

  • by AliAR,

    AliAR AliAR Jan 7, 2012 5:40 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:40 AM in response to Scarface.

    As of my iPhone 4S, it was at 100% at 3:53PM and when I checked at 5:33PM, 1% was lost with NO USE AT ALL and it said 27 minutes was used. What is it with this iPhone?

    *patiently waiting for iOS 5.0.2 to release*

  • by enx23,

    enx23 enx23 Jan 7, 2012 5:49 AM in response to MKZA
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:49 AM in response to MKZA

    @MKZA

     

    It is fine!

     

    Indeed I see in the future black clouds for Apple regarding iPhone 4s in US and EU. Already Apple got a fine of 1,2 million $ in Italy for its bad practices!

     

    Also I have the same feelings like you when I am reading posts here which blame the users of iPhone 4s for the battery life issues! Also I am astonished when I read posts here which state that ~ 1,5 days of battery life is good for such an expensive phone while one has a lot of setttings off!!! For the same features and more settings on one can get a much cheaper phone which also has a much better battery life, like for example iPhone 4!

     

    By the way have you checked your iPhone 4s for the static noise issue (turn on your cellular data, turn off wifi, load in safari a webpage which takes long time to load and immediately put your left year on the back of iPhone 4s where is the Apple logo while the webpage is loading, if your hear a noise then you have the staric noise issue which is a hardware issue)!

  • by MKZA,

    MKZA MKZA Jan 7, 2012 5:55 AM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:55 AM in response to AliAR

    Mine was fully charged at 10:30am this morning, all I have done all day is have two chats on whatsapp and browsed about 20 pages on safari and sent 5 SMS messages. It is now at 15% battery left and it's 4pm.  I've not even made a single phone call. Battery technology and hardware have come a long way so I am convinced these are OS memory leak bugs. The fact that it is now rumored there will be no Ios5.0.2 but rather a jump straight to 5.1 is also an indicator that branch 5.0.x is probably inherently flawed. Whenever developers dump a branch of software so quickly it means there's big problems. If some bright spark at Apple had not chosen to remove the ability to switch off 3G and keep the phone locked on 2g/edge we'd be able to have the phone last 3 times longer but alas they just took this feature from ios4 and removed it. I guess that's what we call progress.

  • by MKZA,

    MKZA MKZA Jan 7, 2012 6:01 AM in response to enx23
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    Jan 7, 2012 6:01 AM in response to enx23

    @enx23 Thanks ;) I'll do the static noise test and report back, I hope all these issues are not signaling troubled times ahead for apple and stronger market share for the droids. My blackberry used to last 2 full days with emails, browsing and numerous calls, barely making it half a day with the 4s now doing even less stuff. I don't particularly want to put anymore into the mighty G market, they control too much as it is and I luv apple, simple as that.

  • by MKZA,

    MKZA MKZA Jan 7, 2012 6:06 AM in response to enx23
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    Jan 7, 2012 6:06 AM in response to enx23

    Just tested now and I don't appear to have the static noise problem. I'll check again later when it's quieter to make 100% sure, right now alas my 4s has a hot date with my charger :)

  • by tutin12,

    tutin12 tutin12 Jan 7, 2012 6:10 AM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 7, 2012 6:10 AM in response to AliAR

    AliAR wrote:

     

    As of my iPhone 4S, it was at 100% at 3:53PM and when I checked at 5:33PM, 1% was lost with NO USE AT ALL and it said 27 minutes was used. What is it with this iPhone?

    *patiently waiting for iOS 5.0.2 to release*

     

    You're right, although my phone now seems to give me at least 5 times better performance with cellular data off, my "usage" also seem to build up whilst I've just let the phone sit beside me while I watched a movie. 6 minutes of extra usage over 1 hour and I've not touched the phone.

  • by Tom-Bo-Mac,

    Tom-Bo-Mac Tom-Bo-Mac Jan 7, 2012 6:54 AM in response to Tom-Bo-Mac
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    Jan 7, 2012 6:54 AM in response to Tom-Bo-Mac

    My 4S has now been running roughly 16 hours with WiFi sync turned off and the WiFi DNS set to 8.8.8.8 and the battery is down to 93 %. Usage says 16 minutes use and 16 hours standby. Before it would have been around 40% or less with usage at around 50% of the overall time. So, at least in my case, WiFi sync was the issue, even if some people say it only runs when the phone is plugged into a power source. Either it does in fact run when the phone is on battery power (by design) or there's a bug.

  • by EdiMC,

    EdiMC EdiMC Jan 7, 2012 7:48 AM in response to tutin12
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    Jan 7, 2012 7:48 AM in response to tutin12

    tutin12

    "Gentlemen, this is 100% related to Cellular Data being enabled or not. Yesterday my phone barely lasted 8 hours standby with 2 hours usage, mostly music.

     

    Last night I switched cellular data off , wifi of, had it on the charger till this morning and now it's 3 hours standby with 10 minutes of calling with 100% on the battery, not even 1% dropped.

     

    I think that speaks enough. It's mobile data usage that kills the thing".

     

     

     

    Don't make statements based only in your own assumptions.

    If that was the case, then why would my battery last only for a day with Cellular Data turned on for only 5minutes?? In my case it has nothing to do with the 3G being turned on or off...

  • by buxbuster,

    buxbuster buxbuster Jan 7, 2012 8:16 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 7, 2012 8:16 AM in response to Scarface.

    Today I released my final solution for the Apple iPhone 4S sync batttery drainage bug.

     

    This is a copy/paste from my website. The detailed analysis will be filled in later.

     

    The Apple iPhone 4S Battery IOS 5.x Configuration Bug

    Problem


    Ever since the appearance of IOS 5.0 the iPhone 4S has been plagued by battery issues. Although Apple fixed most of these issues with IOS 5.0.1, there are still users out there experiencing the excessive battery drain on their newly purchased iPhones. The problem manifests itself by showing about 3 percent drainage per hour while idling. Typically the phone would lay idling during the night and show 30 percent battery drain in 10 hours. The only thing that was done to the phone was push email and bluetooth off.


    Cause


    iTunes and IOS have gone through a lot of updates since they became available. When the iphone is synced with iTunes or being backed up from an iPhone 4S save, the battery bug can manifest itself.
    There is faulty behavior inside the syncing between the iPhone and iTunes ( Either iTunes on your pc/mac or iTunes in the cloud )

     

     

    Solution

     

     

    The solution to the iPhone 4S battery drainage bug is to properly reset the communication between the iPhone and iTunes.


    1. Backup your iPhone using itunes or iTunes in the cloud.
    2. Reset the Apple Mobile Device Service :
    On a PC : Remove the Apple Mobile Device service and de-install iTunes and re-install it again.
    On a Mac : you can't un-install iTunes because it is part of the Operating System. You can re-install it though, but before you do that you need to remove a file at /System/Library/Extensions/AppleMobileDevice.kext . Apple describes how to do this here.
    3. Connect your iphone to iTunes and it should sync properly and your battery problems should be over.

     

     

    Detailed Analysis

    Soon.....

     

     

    I'd appreciate it if you would fill in the poll here so I know I am on the right track with this one.

     

    Regards.

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