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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 3:41 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 7, 2012 3:41 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    @ 1AppleADayNoWay and Everyone else!!!!!

    From http://www.apple.com/iphone/battery.html

     

    Standby Time

    Testing conducted by Apple in September 2011 using preproduction iPhone 4S units and software, on both GSM and CDMA carrier networks. All settings were default except: Wi-Fi was associated with a network; the Wi-Fi feature Ask to Join Networks was turned off. Battery life depends on the cellular network, location, signal strength, feature configuration, usage, and many other factors. Battery tests are conducted using specific iPhone units; actual results may vary.

    As far as I know, it says all settings are default, when I inserted a SIM into my brand new iPhone 4S, it found the carrier and the 3G symbol was up at the top by DEFAULT. This also happens when you setup the phone as a new iPhone.

    So you and everyone who has said the following is wrong: "Even with cellular data off, the overhead for the phone is basically 0.5% per hour."

    As far as I am concerned, the iPhone 4S should be getting Standby life equal to the iPhone 4, which is 300 hours!!!

    So something is certainly happening when the phone is in Standby mode.

    Also, it should be getting more than 200 or 300 hours (depending on how you look at it) if WiFi and 3G data are switched off.

    Hope I'm correct...

  • by gerrifromparksville,

    gerrifromparksville gerrifromparksville Jan 7, 2012 3:50 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 7, 2012 3:50 PM in response to Scarface.

    I had the same trouble until someone told me what to do.

    Open the phone;

    Double press the bottom button;

    All open apps will appear;

    Hold one of them down until they all have a RED minus sign;

    Touch each one to close them.

     

    The battery lasts much longer that way.

    Gerri

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 7, 2012 3:52 PM in response to owh786
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    Jan 7, 2012 3:52 PM in response to owh786

    There has to be some overhead. It's debatable whether it's based on network access or just the device "being on" but in many ways it's irrelevant. Electronics do consume energy. Apple lists the spec for the device as 200 standby hours. I have never seen anyone reach that - 8 days. I guess it's possible to reach it in airplane mode without touching the device at all from the moment it's disconnected from the charger - but who cares, it's purely theoritical. I actually don't understand the point you're making.

     

    Good luck anyways!!

  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 3:59 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 7, 2012 3:59 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    I'm trying to say that you are and whoever else is incorrect in saying that we should be getting 0.5%/hour drain in Standby with WiFi, 3G, Mail and whatnot off when it clearly states on Apples iPhone battery page that we should be getting 200 hours on one charge. Yes, I do agree that is theoretical and with what I have learned from Electronic Engineering, everything has a +- 10% (sometimes less than 10%, sometimes more than 10%) success rate on what is actually stated. So you could shave off 20 hours of the total Standby and get 180 hours, lets say 50% is used for standby, that's 90 hours or almost 4 days of standby with maybe around 4-6 hours of usage WITH WiFi and 3G ON as it states on the website.

     

    Yet nobody has gotten close, except maybe one guy from Scotland on this post who had WiFi and 3G off on his screenshots!!!!

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 7, 2012 4:15 PM in response to owh786
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:15 PM in response to owh786

    Yes, but you seem to forget that "background processing such as autochecking of email" - amongst other things we'll never know - counts towards usage, which in turn reduces standby potential. Standby can only exist as a leftover from usage... and with such a device, because of location, app polling, mail, and what not, it's extremely hard to reach a "pure standby" scenario. Often guys with extremely long usage scenarios have no mail, barely any app, don't do social networking and use wifi and play games while connected to AC or just listen to local music. But I may be wrong... and more power to you!!

     

    Good luck!

     

    Edit: I want to make it clear, aside from standby considerations that if you use the device for 6hrs browsing the internet - a full continuous 6hrs of 3G internet use - then you will have 0 hour of standby. 3G internet use drains 16% per hour. What part of that is the network polling, what other part is the graphic rendering, what other part is the cpu processing is beyond my knowledge. Anyways.

  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 4:19 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:19 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    True. But these are not listed on the battery info page. So we should assume that this is off.

    And either way, if mail was on to fetch every 15 minutes, I'm pretty sure it takes maybe no more than 30 seconds to download mail and then the phone enters the sleep mode again. This occurs 4 times an hour, to be liberal, let's say this drains 10% of total battery life if it was on for 2 days. That's still a lot left for standby time!!!

    I'm just saying that I have all these settings off and yet I still can't get 3 days with wifi and 3G on!!!

  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 4:20 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:20 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    Yes I am completely aware that the usage and standby times are not AND, they are OR!!

  • by tyler39,

    tyler39 tyler39 Jan 7, 2012 4:38 PM in response to owh786
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:38 PM in response to owh786

    Apple achieved there stand by hours by using a new iPhone, no apps, airplane mode, nothing running in the background, location services off, diagnostics off, back light on the lowist settings. They test the phones really steril.

    So usage and stand by will NEVER be what that say. It's the same with all device manufactures.

  • by tyler39,

    tyler39 tyler39 Jan 7, 2012 4:43 PM in response to owh786
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    Jan 7, 2012 4:43 PM in response to owh786

    Oh and .5% drop an hour is 200 hour stand by time. Mine drops 1.25% an hour.  Lasts 2 days.

  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 5:13 PM in response to tyler39
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:13 PM in response to tyler39

    But standby time is with the phone screen off so brightness won't matter. And neither do apps, they state WITH WiFi AND 3G ON the battery life in standby is 200 hours, so surely it must before with these two features off!!!

  • by tyler39,

    tyler39 tyler39 Jan 7, 2012 5:20 PM in response to owh786
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:20 PM in response to owh786

    Could be. But if you want those hours set your iPhone to there test settings, charge the phone, disconnect it and DON'T touch it. If you phone drops 1% -1.5% an hour that's great battery life for any apple iPhone being used. Again people use the processor differently.

  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 5:23 PM in response to tyler39
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:23 PM in response to tyler39

    I just did and I'm not getting anywhere near those stats!!!

    I'll see what happens overnight here in UK in terms of battery percentage loss...

  • by tyler39,

    tyler39 tyler39 Jan 7, 2012 5:26 PM in response to owh786
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:26 PM in response to owh786

    Like I said 1%-1.5% is great stand by time on the iPhone 4s

  • by owh786,

    owh786 owh786 Jan 7, 2012 5:30 PM in response to tyler39
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:30 PM in response to tyler39

    1% is, 1.5% isn't.

    But I always want it to be as close the states stats, unfortunately I don't have the iPhone that some lucky users do that makes their battery as good as the stats...

  • by Pete from Switzerland,

    Pete from Switzerland Pete from Switzerland Jan 7, 2012 5:31 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 7, 2012 5:31 PM in response to Scarface.

    Update: after the fix that I found, my 4S's battery is better than it was before the drain started (it was just like the iPhone 4's battery for about 4 weeks), and better than that of my iPhone 4. I am now at 45 h standby time.

     

    For those who are new: Monday night I moved from MobileMe to iCloud. Tuesday afternoon I used Siri but she wouldn't connect to the server. Then, for the first time since moving to iCould I left the house and wifi. Then I noticed that my 4S was getting hot and using battery like crazy. This continued after returning to the house for the next days.

     

    Assuming that the move to iCloud might be a reason I decided to delelte all MobileMe related apps (MobileMe Gallery and iDisk). However, I can't delete apps using the jiggle procedure - due to some other issue - and syncing with iTunes (unchecking apps and then syncing to iPhone in order to remove them) didn't work either. I assumed there must be a corrupt file somewhere and unchecked syncing of fotos, music, everything except the apps. Then I made an iTunes factory restore and then recovery from the latest backup. I was now able to sync and delete those apps. Since then - Thursday afternoon - my battery is back to normal, and as I can see now, even better. (By the way, the reason for the syncing issue was iToner, which I had used for ringtones. After installing back the ringtones from iToner, the syncing didn't work again and I had to do another factory restore.)

     

    My 4S is still empty of fotos, music, videos and books. I'll start syncing them to the iPhone tomorrow and will watch whether this has an impact on battery capacity.

     

    Message was edited by: Pete from Switzerland

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