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  • marc-man Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    EdiMC wrote:

     

    UPDATE:

    Well, would you look at that??!!

    After removing the SIM Card (now i basically have a heavier iPod touch standing there lol), the Waiting/Usage time are now correct and i'm seeing a good battery behaviour...

    Waiting time - 11hours;

    Usage time - 9 minutes;

    Still have 95%.

     

    Could it be the SIM??? It's a new one (already had 2 because of "No SIM/Invalid SIM" issue)...

    This shows that the battery itself is fine, and it's not the problem...

    Now, is it the SIM? Is it the phone (SIM tray, the SIM reader...or something like that)? Or is it just a compability issue, caused by a hardware problem, software problem, or both?

    The main problem is that this isn't easy to narrow down!

    But, at least, now i know for sure that the battery itself is ok!

    If you can, try it and see what happens...

     

    Best regards

     

    If your problem is high usage time reported while phone is in standby, therefore draining the battery, then see this thread here for info that 'may' help your situation:

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17259821#17259821

  • Jameson! Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    The fact that APPLE has re-instated the 3G toggle for 5.1 beta 3 concerns me greatly.   It tells me that they have been unable to solve the problem with firmware mods and are implementing this band-aid as a fix.   Looks to me like the 4s is doomed to be what we see here and all we can do is wait for iPhone 5......  

    dannywonglh wrote:

     

    Hi, has anyone updated 4S to latest 5.1 beta 3? Is there any improvement for battery life on 4S for this latest beta?

  • enx23 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @rphunte42

     

     

    rphunte42 wrote:

     

    Sorry to disabuse you of this notion, but NOT ALL USERS HAVE BATTERY ISSUES!  Mine works just fine,

    Of course not all iPhone 4S have battery issues! By chance one would expect that at least one iPhone 4S to have no battery life issues!

     

     

    Mine works just fine,

    How do you know that your iPhone 4S has the expected battery life when:

    1) you just wrote in one of your posts that you charge your iPhone 4S everytime during the day when you have the opportunity, and

    2) you spend so much time in front of you computer on this forum?

     

     

    unless you believe that all the articles about the 4S written by various people over the world are just lies. 

    Wawww.... Just because an article does not match your opinion regarding your belowed-working-iPhone4s it means that is a lie! It is clear that one has a problem accepting that iPhone 4S has issues!

     

     

    Does that mean no one has battery issues?  Certainly not.

    Now you are just contradicting yourself!

     

    Some have pretty obivous hardware issues, and others seem to have 'rogue tasks' running that sap the battery and run up the 'usage' figures beyond reason. 

    If it is iOS bug, apps bugs, hardware issues it is still Apple fault! The point is that iPhone 4s and iOS 5.X.X which is installed on it has battery life issues and it is the duty of Apple to acknowledge it and fix it!

     

     

    Others seem to have unreasonable expectations.

    Again, if people complain here about their battery life of iPhone 4S being shorter than on iPhone 4 then it is not about unreasonable expectations!

    Should one fall on his/her back because of iPhone 4S? I do not think so! In the end of the day it is a product with specifications and the seller should provice accurate specifications for real life situations!

     

     

    If you are in the first two categories, you certainly deserve a fix, whether hardware, or software.

    How one can get a fix if in the first place the issue is not even acknowledged?

    When we will get a permanent fix for the battery life of iPhone 4S? Next year? The iPhone 4S has been realeased last year and even this year there is not a definitive fix for all iPhone 4S issues!!!

  • marc-man Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As a point of interest, I set up a brand new 4S yesterday. When asked if i wanted to enable Siri I said no. Even with Siri disabled right from the start, the IR sensor (raise to speak) is enabled!

    turbn8r wrote:

     

    Battery Life...Just my Opinion... (but it works much better now!) Over these past 591 pages I have added a few posts concerning my experiences with the poor battery life problems. On one post I said the ""IR" sensor for Siri was always on even when Siri was off. I think that was a huge contributer to my battery drain. You can check yours with a basic digital camera held in front of the sensor. This lead me to take the phone back to Apple, got it replaced with another 4s which had IOS 5.0 installed. Probably an early iPhone release I suppose. Anyway, I'm not upgrading, no matter what, to IOS 5.0.1 or anything else until I start reading more positive results about battery concerns. I have done all the things mentioned as far as turning off functions etc. but nothing worked on my previous iPhone. This one appears to be working just fine. I think you all are wasting your time with all that you are trying with this phone and its current IOS. Getting aggravated with the phone and each other on here as well. It's just not worth it, is it?

  • enx23 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Jameson!

     

     

    Jameson! wrote:

     

    The fact that APPLE has re-instated the 3G toggle for 5.1 beta 3 concerns me greatly.   It tells me that they have been unable to solve the problem with firmware mods and are implementing this band-aid as a fix.   Looks to me like the 4s is doomed to be what we see here a

    I totally agree with you!

     

     

    and all we can do is wait for iPhone 5......  

    Do you mean that you still want to buy iPhone 5 after iPhone 4s having so many technical/engineering/software mistakes?

     

    Definitevly my next phone will not be iPhone!

  • EdiMC Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    turbn8r - I agree with you. I paid what i paid to have a Premium equipment. And that, to me, means, most of all, reliability...

    But the simple idea of a 600€ phone being delivered to people that i know that will not take care of the phone like i do (because it isn't theirs, if it was, it would be different - sorry, had TERRIBLE experiences with technical services), and take the chance of having it returned pretty much with no change and with a report saying "The device is working properly", just haunts me!! This is plain and simple: i don't trust the technical services in Portugal (never seem to know, never seem to care, when i expose a problem it seems that I'M the technician...)

     

    Worth it or not, i'll only deliver it after i did absolutelly everything to try and find the problem on my own...

     

    Cheers!

  • turbn8r Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Marc-man....What I would do is make sure Siri is disabled, do a hard reset, home and power button till you see the Apple, then make sure Siri is not on then use the digital camera to check and see if your "ir sensor" is blinking away. If it is not blinking then go back to Siri and turn it on but leave the raise to speak off. Check your sensor again and see if it is on or off. I would also check this by asking Siri a question while having the digital camera looking at the sensor, make sure it blinks while working then goes out after its done.

  • Jameson! Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Honestly, YES!   While my battery does drain faster than I would like at times, I am not struggling like many others are:

     

    1. When on wifi, I don't experience the battery drain issues and I have wifi access both at home and the office.   I easily get through an entire day.  
    2. On top of that, I have a charger in the car and in the office, just in case.
    3. I love the functionality of the iPhone and the sychronizing of it with my wife's iPhone, our iPad and our MACBook Pro.   It makes life so easy for us, that this battery issue is not a deal breaker FOR US.
    4. I have associates here with Droid devices who struggle every day to go 24hrs on a charge, so I'm not sure that anything comparable out there is better.   I am beginning to believe that APPLE's estimates are so overblown that they are perpetuating this problem, more than facts themselves are.

    There is definitely a problem (my opinion) with iOS5 and how it is designed to deal with cellular data and the dual antenna setup in the 4s.   This firmware problem is carried over to 4 and 3Gs models that are firmware upgraded.   If I were away from wifi more and didn't have access to power, I may be more upset than I am with the phone, but.........  

    enx23 wrote:

     

    Do you mean that you still want to buy iPhone 5 after iPhone 4s having so many technical/engineering/software mistakes?

     

    Definitevly my next phone will not be iPhone!

  • nilesh73 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Try this it workd for me

     

    i faced the same situation but after searching over internet i'v found the solution to fix my battery life.

    I hope this wil help you and every one who faces same battery drain issue
    solution:
    settings>general>date and time>set automatically>turned off. that's it.
    set manually your location.

     

    it solves the battery drain issue for me now i am 7hrs standby on 92% battery indicator.

     

    form this video i got the solution

    How to dramatically improve Iphone 4S Battery Life

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Sc091sDbU&feature=related

  • Tamarillo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi enx23, you have to know about rphunte42 some things:

     

    He fail to see if the 2G-3G toggle is important...apple implements that in 5.1B3...

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17157513#17157513

     

    He has no bluetooth problems, while other user complains that....the problem is not general...

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17164591#17164591

     

    He knows a lot about RAM and not functioning cam...

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17205830#17205830

     

    He has no problems with wrong location services

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17156899#17156899

     

    He advice users to avoid wrong battery calibration

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17205836#17205836

     

    He answers question for peoples with bad battery life: "I don't have battery issues"

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17207712#17207712

     

    The users have to wear a coat in this time of the year

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17164832#17164832

     

    He has only one problem with the iphone 4s

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17157250#17157250

     

    No more comments...don't feed the troll!

  • rphunte42 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    3 to 4% for 7 hours is extraordinarily good, but 20% isn't terrible either.  That would give you 35 hours of standby, which will below par wouldn't be nearly as bad as many users seem to be seeing.  More to the point, instead of calling people names, why not try to figure out why your phone went from good standby battery usage to mediocre, at best, standby usage.

    AliAR wrote:

     

    Before December 20th, I had 3-4% battery drainage on standby in 7 hours during my sleep. You think 20% is good compared to 3-4% for 7 hours overnight? I guess not. Still think my battery is "great"?

  • rphunte42 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    That is certainly a problem, especially if you have turned everything off.  You might check out getting that one replaced.

     

    timmy880 wrote:

     

    Battery life is just pathetic. Have turned off everything. Done everything that has been suggested on this thread and still stuggle to make it 7 hours without having to charge it again.

  • rphunte42 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    First, NO, I am not an employee of Apple (or anyone at this time), and have no relationship with Apple other than owning a 4S, which is my first Apple product, ever.

    Sorry, but some people here DO have unreasonable expectations.  It's a fact.

    I have NEVER said anyone didn't have a battery problem if it was obvious that they did.  I have suggested that several people return their phones for a new one.  But people who complain that 4 or 5 days standby isn't enought since the specs say UP TO 200 hours, they should be getting that.  That's 'unreasonable expectation."

    I never mentioned people playing games until their phone died.  I don't care WHAT people do on their phones, or computers, or just how they use them, but turning on GPS, running a 3D game, and playing music at the same time WILL sap the battery in record time.  You can't get something for nothing.

    enx23 wrote:

     

    @rphunte42

     

     

    rphunte42 wrote:

     

    You are rude, and your comments are not appreciated. 

     

    AliAR wrote:

     

    Before December 20th, I had 3-4% battery drainage on standby in 7 hours during my sleep. You think 20% is good compared to 3-4% for 7 hours overnight? I guess not. Still think my battery is "great"? You got to know more facts about users before you post. I suggest you keep your mouth shut and stop criticising people, ignorant a$$hole.

    rphunte42, I find your comments most of the time very unsensitive to the people's problems!

     

    Your comments basically blames most of the time the people and very very few times the iPhone 4S!!! You just assume that people who have problems with the battery of iPhone 4S do not know how to use a phone and what to expect from a phone!

     

    Again, rphunte42, this forum is not about how the people are using iPhone 4S!!!! This forum is about complains regarding the battery life of the iPhone 4S!!!! Here most of the people are comparing the battery life of:

    1) iPhone 4S versus iPhone 4,

    2) iPhone 4S versus iPhone 3GS,

    3) iPhone 4S versus whatever-phone-you-want.

     

    Rphunte42, this forum is not about telling to people who own an iPhone 4S that:

    1) they have unreasonable expectations, and

    2) their iPhone 4S has no battery life problem when they clearly state that they do have one, and

    3) they play games on their iPhone 4s until it dies!

     

     

    Are you RPHUNTE42 expecting or will you get any financial benefits or gifts from Apple in the future? (I have asked this question from you before but I got no answer)

  • EdiMC Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Please stop suggesting tips like the ones Apple suggests.

    Those are the basic ones...after 592 pages those tips have been explained, suggested, and tried to exaustion with no sucess (maybe because the problem has nothing to do with that!). Sure they will give you extra minutes of battery time...but what's being discussed here, after all these pages, is way over that! Can't be fixed like that...it's another completely different problem.

     

     

    P.S. I understand that there will be users who won't read all the pages (since it's such a long topic), but bear with us...

     

    Peace!

  • rphunte42 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    It could also be that your service provider didn't configure your SIM card properly for the area you are in.  Maybe that's (no SIM) how Apple got their 200 hours standby....

     

    EdiMC wrote:

     

    UPDATE:

    Well, would you look at that??!!

    After removing the SIM Card (now i basically have a heavier iPod touch standing there lol), the Waiting/Usage time are now correct and i'm seeing a good battery behaviour...

    Waiting time - 11hours;

    Usage time - 9 minutes;

    Still have 95%.

     

    Could it be the SIM??? It's a new one (already had 2 because of "No SIM/Invalid SIM" issue)...

    This shows that the battery itself is fine, and it's not the problem...

    Now, is it the SIM? Is it the phone (SIM tray, the SIM reader...or something like that)? Or is it just a compability issue, caused by a hardware problem, software problem, or both?

    The main problem is that this isn't easy to narrow down!

    But, at least, now i know for sure that the battery itself is ok!

    If you can, try it and see what happens...

     

    Best regards