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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM in response to Beetch18
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM in response to Beetch18

    Beetch18 wrote:

     

    One thing that has seemed to improve battery life for me is not having the phone track the usage time and standby time. [...]

    That would really make my day lolll. And confirm that relying on reliable stuff like a stopwatch and pen and paper to track usage can help.

  • by AliAR,

    AliAR AliAR Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM in response to Beetch18
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM in response to Beetch18

    You're saying seems good? More like amazing! That's way too good! Please tell me what you did to get an extraordinary battery like that.

    Beetch18 wrote:

     

    [...] but 99% after 6.5 hrs seems good.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:15 AM in response to reginap
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:15 AM in response to reginap

    reginap wrote:

     

    to me it makes no sense having the "smartest phone" ever made if I have to turn off all of its features in order for it to be usable. even if I keep turning them on and off to suit my needs, just doesn't make sense.

     

    Has anyone figure out a way to solve this without having to resume my iphone to a dumbphone that does nothing but call and text?

     

    I did a restore and I thought it got better but then now I have 58% with only two hours of moderate use and 2 on standby.
    yesterday i had 15 hours on standy not using the phone.

     

    I agree about turning everything off, but having features on, and using power, that I don't need, and probably never will, like compass calibration, is just plain stupid.  Anything the phone does uses battery power, other than holding down papers on you desk, so managing the features is only basic resource conservation.  If you want to run the battery down FAST, then turn on the Maps app, and enable all the location stuff, then tell it to route you to someplace 1000 miles away, and carry it around with the screen on all the time.  That will deplete your battery in record time.  Now that's not something you would normally do often, so you probably don't run the Maps app under normal conditions.  Another thing that defaults to on is the check for time zones.  Now if you live on the line between two time zones, or you normally cross a time zone in the course of your day, this would be something to leave on, but most people are not in that position. 

    In short, it isn't necessary to turn everything off, but turning off the things you don't want (like Twitter push), or need, like the compass calibration, just makes good sense.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM in response to DKay
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM in response to DKay

    DKay wrote:

     

    Well in that case - what about a batch of dodgy batteries? Is Apple using more than one source as supplier.... because clearly not every user is affected??

    Very likely several of them.  I am sure that Apple is investigating that possibility.

  • by Beetch18,

    Beetch18 Beetch18 Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM in response to AliAR

    AliAR,

     

    The reason i said seems good is as I mentioned the phone has primarily been in standby and has not had a lot of usage.  I have mail set to manual, siri and location services off, timezone off and the only notifications i have on are text and phone.  So, pretty much i have dumbed down my smart phone. 

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM in response to Tamarillo
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM in response to Tamarillo

    Tamarillo wrote:

     

    OMG - "Battery life seems short", this is the best joke i ever heard on this issue. This is a disrespect to affected users.

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

      

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2802. I extract the "Battery life seems short" section of the document FYI:

     

    I understand your perspective - as you had a real issue. On the other hand, I believe the content is good in the sense that it rules out transient issues like out of the box worrying related before having done a full charge and reset and such. When people have no issues but think they do, they will end up solving it though protacted tricks and focus on something that was very remote to the issue and try to convince others that they have a magic solution. If Apple had taken care in attracting attention to these simple steps, then a thread like this one might have been shorter and more focused - with real issues. Self-support is an area where Apple can do much better.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM in response to reginap
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM in response to reginap

    reginap wrote:

     

    I just swa in comments at this article (http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/28/apple-engineers-contact-iphone-4s-user-to-diagnose -battery-issues/#more-103389) two people saying they went to a genius bar or apple store and that they found a problem with safari and locations, and once the app was deleted and reintalled problem was solved.
    I wonder if I can get some help in an iPlace, since there's no apple store in Brazil.

    Maybe Apple store employees can delete and reinstall Safari, but users can't.

  • by Faragondk,

    Faragondk Faragondk Jan 17, 2012 10:21 AM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:21 AM in response to AliAR

    I returned my iPhone 4s to the store where I bought it, we don't have any Apple stores here in Denmark either. I was told to expect 14 days "repair" time. I told them about the static noise, and lousy battery life. The guy I talked to had an iPhone 4s too, his phone had the static noise too, but it wasn't as loud as in my phone. He seemed surprised when I told him about the static noise and then listened to his own phone, when he heard it there too he said it was supposed to be there!

    I think it is directly linked to my bad battery life, I just hope I get a phone back that is better than the one I returned. With cellular data off I managed 5-6 hours use and 1 day and a few hours standby. I could have lived with that if it was with cellular data on, but the drain was much higher with it on. In addition my connection was lousy, especially switching between 3G and Edge coverage.

    I just kick myself that I tought buying an Apple product at 676€ was a quality buy. Next time I will wait a few months more after a product launch before I buy anything Apple.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM in response to Dogman24701
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM in response to Dogman24701

    Dogman24701 wrote:

     

    It amazes me how many people on here are taking up for Apple like they are drugged by the great Apple pill. There are tens of thousand of people across the country having problems with these phones. First it was the antenna in the 4 now the 4s with more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Why would anyone want to work on a phone they paid this much for. Turn all the stuff off to use it BS I can get a free phone that will last longer than the Iphone and get days out of the battery. I have a few 4's that we use at work and I mean use all day long , don't get out very well but the batteries will last 3 days with constant use. I went to the ATT store at the mall today to look at other phones since its evident Apple is not going to work on the battery and noise issues and they had boxes of I phones people have returned due to the same issues, all had them less than 30 days and returned them. If  Apple cared they would be on here offering help, exchanges, money back whatever. Oh you have the Apple trolls on here and the people who think they are Apple engineers raving about how great they are just don use them and turn everything off. No one will convince me that Apple is working on this , with their recourses ,engineers, etc if there was a fix it would be in by now. Faulty batteries and components period So now off to work on the 5 scrap the 4s=scrap phone and make more money off the hordes of Apple worshipers.

    Something makes my doubt your story.  First, if there were than many users with a problem in your area, I am pretty sure the store would be cordoned off by police by now.  Second, NO STORE, would be so stupid as to allow a customer to see 'boxes of returned iPhones' laying around.  If so, he needs the same treatment as that cruise ship captain in Italy! 

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM in response to Scarface.

    It's really a waste of time to do analysis before 0% really. A long time ago there was a guy here who looped a video file from the web to exhaust his battery life and he remained at 1% for an hour+

     

    No offense, but you guys lack methodology. You might stay on a certain percentage for an extended period of time then drop 15% in the following hour and such. Most likely related to battery calibration and some of the most flaky usage and battery indicator on the market - yes, both are flaky.

     

    @AliAR - The target is about 0.5% per hour in standby. If you think you'll get 0.15% ever you're simply out of your mind. No trick will yield this... except a flaky indicator lollll.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:28 AM in response to Anthony K.
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:28 AM in response to Anthony K.

    Anthony K. wrote:

     

     

    4. Click weather and turn off local weather. Set your area in the weather list. If using local weather, it always run the GPS.

     

    I have location services on for most of my programs.  Many do need it on to function, and local weather isn't very useful if the phone can't see where it is.  However, ONLY 'sex offenders' and 'weather' have checked the GPS location in the last 24 hours, so I can't see that is going to make a major drain on the battery.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM in response to enx23
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM in response to enx23

    enx23 wrote:

     

    ?

    Majority of iPhone 4s are affected by the battery life issues and/or static noise issue. The thing is for some people is fine that the battery lasts ~1.5 days and they charged every night. For some people this is not fine!

    Also iPhone 4S is obviously a downgrade from iPhone 4. On iPhone 4 one gets 4 days of use and on iPhone 4s one gets ~1.5 day of use with a lot of settings off!

     

    Also, on this forum one can see only the tip of the iceberg because mostly people from USA, Canda, and UK are complaining here about their iPhone 4s battery issues!

    You have some documentation for that?  I have not heard ANYONE I know complaining about battery life problems on their 4S.   And your last comment is totally in error as several of the messages posted here seemed to be in an Eastern European language, and at least two posters are in the Middle East, and at least one Aussie.

      I think you would gripe if you were going to be hung with a NEW rope.

    Gripe if you want, that's what this forum is for, but at least keep it real.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    Yeah very true. Also the battery meter and usage meter is not accurate anyway. Its all over the place. Example. check your usage, then make a call and time it. Then go back and check again. On mine the phone calls seem to get left off the usage meter.  One day in particular I was showing 30 min usage and like 15+ hrs std by, but had talked for 60 minutes (verified by call logs) not to mention other things I did. Anyway, point is that the meters seem to be very inaccurate at least part of the time. So would not put a whole lot of merit on them currently.

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    It's really a waste of time to do analysis before 0% really. A long time ago there was a guy here who looped a video file from the web to exhaust his battery life and he remained at 1% for an hour+

     

    No offense, but you guys lack methodology. You might stay on a certain percentage for an extended period of time then drop 15% in the following hour and such.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM in response to enx23
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM in response to enx23

    enx23 wrote:

    Right now iPhone 4S lasts ~200 hours if one keeps Wifi and Cellular Data off all the time which is not realistic! What is the point of buying and super expensive iPhone 4s if one keeps off wifi and Cellular data off all the time? Bragging?

     

    How come that iPhone 4s is so much worse compared to iPhone 4?

     

    Why do you say the iPhone 4S is 'super expensive'?  It is priced consistently with the majority of comparable Android, Windows, and BB phones.  If you want 'super expensive' try the Motorola RAZR Maxx, which starts at over $300 (US) on a 2 year commitment.  But then it has a HUGE battery.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Jan 17, 2012 10:40 AM in response to rphunte42
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:40 AM in response to rphunte42

    prhunte42, He actually has a good point. If you add your city to the weather and turn off local, it just tells you the weather for that city without using GPS whenever you open the weather app It does update tho. Otherwise if you dont add a particular city (your home or work) every time you fire off weather it uses GPS then updates weather. So again, to your point earlier, if you are pretty stationary, just set your city and turn off local and that will definitly help due to it firing up GPS every time you check weather. Well not if u only check once  a day but...........

     

    rphunte42 wrote:

     

    Anthony K. wrote:

     

     

    4. Click weather and turn off local weather. Set your area in the weather list. If using local weather, it always run the GPS.

     

    I have location services on for most of my programs.  Many do need it on to function, and local weather isn't very useful if the phone can't see where it is.  However, ONLY 'sex offenders' and 'weather' have checked the GPS location in the last 24 hours, so I can't see that is going to make a major drain on the battery.

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