Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

sbailey4 wrote:

 

Speaking of, how is the return/exchange of the 4s coming so you can sell it and get one of these cheaper ones you mention or even the iPhone 4? You are aware you have a 1 year warranty yes? And Oct to Jan is not a year remember?  Just curious.

Maybe he works for an insurance company and thinks that because October was last year, his warranty has run out like you have to pay a new copay for anything after Jan 1 of the new year...

Since you broght up Nokia, how about the N9? Do you honestly expect a phone to make it an entire day with only 5 hours of HSDPA browsing time? That phone would die under my use. Nokia and Motorola phones are known to have great talk time. Unfortunately for them, smartphones aren't used only for talking.

If you're going to troll, try something more sophisticated. You're beginning to sound like a Nokia shill.

Jameson! wrote:

 

Oh for crying out loud.......   iOS 5 created battery drain problems on any iPhone model it is installed on.   How can it possibly be a hardware problem?   This panic has caused everyone to put logic and common sense aside and run wild to any possible answer.

My wife, who uses the 3GS, is a heavy user, and complained about short battery life when I updated her phone to IOS5.  I went through and turned off all the stuff that she wouldn't be using, and was defaulted to ON.  Now her battery use if pretty much similar to mine, although she uses her phone more.  On the other hand, she doesn't have a dual core processor, and she doesn't have Siri, or a number of other hardware things that, presumably, must be powered to be useful.  You just can't get something for nothing.  IOS5 added a number of additional features, some that may be very useful for some users, and not for others, but leaving those on does incur some additional battery use.  It probably wasn't a good idea for Apple to default everything to ON, in retrospect.

1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

 

But somehow it seems to me some things are better left off relying on people's brain and basic knowledge. Plus the advantage must be weighted against energy efficiency - clearly - and that's really what this is about. It may be one day people rely on GPS for figuring out where they are as their cluelessness trumps all and they can't even select their city name in a drop down list let alone write/read it right. I hope I'll be dead by then.

Better start those funeral arrangements, because there are a LOT of people that are that clueless right now, and who can't read, ro write their native language.

For the people who are having static and battery problems: The iOS 5.0 betas introduced a battery bug during development. It happenened to me sometime during the middle of the releases, but it was fixed (for me at least) before the GM was released. If you can, return your phone and get a refund. If you're not in your return window anymore, wait for a fix or use your phone's warranty to get a replacement.

I am not a Nokia employee, I have never been one, and I will never be one. I have never gotten any payments, or financial benefits from Nokia and I will never get either!

Nokia has not been in USA market for years. I do not see how Nokia can exit from a USA market when it has not been there for years! I know that Nokia is trying to get to USA market but let's see what will happen!

@ricky_tang

ricky_tang wrote:

 

Since you broght up Nokia, how about the N9?

I do not know about N9. I know about E51 and E52.

Do you honestly expect a phone to make it an entire day with only 5 hours of HSDPA browsing time?

I didn't write in my posts about doing HSDPA browsing the entire day on Nokia smartphones.

This is a forum about complains regarding the iPhone 4S and its battery life issues! Let the complains begin!

Hey Jack,

Now thats called 'stats'....Quite amazing for a 4S....But still I would have 16 hrs usage and 3 days standby on 3gs sometimes and that was amazing....

Anyway coming to your screen shot, your usage and battery life depends on what you have used...If you have used wifi and mobile data with location services on for camera and few other stuff and with few phone calls, then this is an awesome result....I would personally fly to your place connect my phone to ur mac and restore my phone and go...

My 4S lags a day behind in standby and 1 hr in usage from your phone....

Good luck....Do not meddle with your phone anymore....

Okay here's some results.

Cellular Data ON 3G

7 hours standby

2 hours usage

Most services on - 3G, location services, no WIFI, no mail sync at all.

Cellular Data OFF

Occasional WIFI usage for browsing

Occasional Location Services ON for looking up where I am on a preloaded (via wifi) google maps.

Approximately 1.5 hours of music in the car with cable, not loadspeaker

Battery usage results

Still doubts? For me (and apparently many others) it is obvious there is an issue with the cellular data chip.

And not only with that cellular chip to be honest, because:

• Out of those 6 hours usage, no more than 2.5 hours are real, maximum 3 hours. I could consistently see the usage time going up, without me using the phone AT ALL. That is a software issue for sure
• I noticed when listening to music in my car the phone lights up from time to time, every few minutes, for no apparent reason. Then I looked carefully (as much as possible while driving) and it seems the phone does NOT transition smoothly from one cell to another and loses it's connection, then reconnected to the next accessible cell, lighting up the screen.
• Probably because of the above problem of switching between cells, I get often dropped calls, where I did not at all with my 3G doing the same road to work.

I think this clearly shows there is a problem with iPhone 4S, as much as I'd hate to admit it. I paid 750 euro for my phone, that is slightly above $1000.

enx23 wrote:

 

I am not a Nokia employee, I have never been one, and I will never be one. I have never gotten any payments, or financial benefits from Nokia and I will never get either!

 

Nokia has not been in USA market for years. I do not see how Nokia can exit from a USA market when it has not been there for years! I know that Nokia is trying to get to USA market but let's see what will happen!

 

@ricky_tang

 

ricky_tang wrote:

 

Since you broght up Nokia, how about the N9?

I do not know about N9. I know about E51 and E52.

 

 

Do you honestly expect a phone to make it an entire day with only 5 hours of HSDPA browsing time?

I didn't write in my posts about doing HSDPA browsing the entire day on Nokia smartphones.

 

This is a forum about complains regarding the iPhone 4S and its battery life issues! Let the complains begin!

Gee, now you can see the future.  How do you know that you will never, for instance, be given a few shares of Nokia stock? 

As for the USA market, Nokia was my FIRST cell phone, and I still have in a drawer. 

It seems that most smartphone users are more or less non-plussed with their battery life.  It remains to be seen if the hugh battery on the RAZR Maxx will satisfy users who want more and more features, and thinner, lighter, phones. 

What it clearly shows is that you really don't understand the technical aspects of a modern smartphone.  Just because the phon is sitting around with the screen off, doesn't mean it isn't doing anything.  It's a small computer, and is always doing something.  When it checks for email, or communicates with the cell network, or gets a signal that a text message is coming, or is checking each minute to see if any alarm is set for that minute, or it is checking to see if you have moved since the last check, that is considered 'usage'.  Not ALL internal functions increment usage, but many do.  In the absence of clear definition of just what increments usage from Apple, we just have to guess.  However, there SHOULD be a significant difference between usage and standby times, so if your are essentially the same, you probably have a rogue process that didn't terminate, and is continuing to use the processor.  There are some issues with the cell phone tower switching it would seem, which I hope are addressed by IOS5.1. 

BTW, you paid way too much for your iPhone.

Apple please fix our iphone4$  the battery life is disappointing and the static noise problem makes it seem like a cheap piece of .... I can definitely tell that call quality on my 4S is poor compared to any phone I have used.

And yes, this forum and posts are meant to complain about apple not providing what it promises/advertises!

The update 5.1 better be good otherwise iphone 4S will be the biggest scam. Few people complain about batterylife because they don't understadn what they should be getting, their mentality is "this is a smartphone, it should be charged frequently because it is a small computer.. :O" and thus don't understand the game apple is playing.

@rphunte42

Hey man, you seem to be consistently agressive in your answers. I don't really need this virtual arguments, I got enough troubles to solve on daily basis already. I am providing obvious info, backed with screenshots and yet you explain to me how-things-work.

"Just because the phon is sitting around with the screen off, doesn't mean it isn't doing anything.  It's a small computer, and is always doing something.  When it checks for email, or communicates with the cell network, or gets a signal that a text message is coming, or is checking each minute to see if any alarm is set for that minute, or it is checking to see if you have moved since the last check, that is considered 'usage'."

I don't argue it does nothing when sitting around, clearly it does (though you did not read again, I have no mail sync, no locaiton services etc), but I somewhat speak english - the word USAGE means when you USE the phone, not CPU TIME consumed by background processes. I am a senior IT architect and country manager in a multinational IT company, do you really want to argue over the meaning of the word "USAGE"? Nothing to do with mobiles though, but user interface and thereof wording is aimed to the USER's perspective, not technical terms. At least in that Apple are for sure quite good.

"Not ALL internal functions increment usage, but many do."

Okay could be, and probably is, but you do realize we're talking of a difference in hundreds of percent? If I have 2 hours of usage and it says I used the phone for 6 hours, there is clearly something not okay in the background. Or you don't agree?

"However, there SHOULD be a significant difference between usage and standby times, so if your are essentially the same, you probably have a rogue process that didn't terminate, "

You must have at least looked at that big screenshot there, I have 4 days of standby with 6 hours of usage with cellular data off and thereof as result anything that data access caries with it (weather checks, time zones, whatever the phone may be doing in the background that I am not alerted of).

Man, you need to relax, I love my apple devices, likely I have more of them than the average Apple customer (many iphones of ALL generations, 27" mac, 2 ipads etc etc) and I hate the fact there are problems with my phone's battery life. But there ARE and it is a FACT. My Ipad 2 is also on iOS 5.01, with 3g and all bells&whistles enabled lasts forever, I've never even looked at the usage stats, it lasts literally for weeks. Even with Skype over 3G always enabled it still lasts like 4-5 days, I don't know. That is NOT to say I compare the battery of an iPhone and an iPad, cause I feel this is your next argument coming up with highway speed It is just to note that iPad2 does not seem to suffer from the same issues, whilst running the same operating system level.

"BTW, you paid way too much for your iPhone."

This is how much it costs in Europe, there's no too much or not enough. 650 to 850 euro or so for the different capacity.

I paid even more than he did, a little bit over $1,100. For what? For a phone that won't run over a day with all settings on but we have to turn off all the settings to make it last for slightly over a day. This is the first time for me to say this: I regret buying the iPhone. I thought it was going to be as it is specified but looks like I was wrong. I wish I can get a refund for this piece of sh**.

Ummmm....   You have 4 days of standby, but the screenshot also notes that you have plugged the phone in since the last full charge.   What are you trying to tell us with that screenshot?   By plugging in the phone during that time, but not fully charging it, all of your info is meaningless...........

tutin12 wrote:

 

@rphunte42

 

Hey man, you seem to be consistently agressive in your answers. I don't really need this virtual arguments, I got enough troubles to solve on daily basis already. I am providing obvious info, backed with screenshots and yet you explain to me how-things-work.

 

"Just because the phon is sitting around with the screen off, doesn't mean it isn't doing anything.  It's a small computer, and is always doing something.  When it checks for email, or communicates with the cell network, or gets a signal that a text message is coming, or is checking each minute to see if any alarm is set for that minute, or it is checking to see if you have moved since the last check, that is considered 'usage'."

 

I don't argue it does nothing when sitting around, clearly it does (though you did not read again, I have no mail sync, no locaiton services etc), but I somewhat speak english - the word USAGE means when you USE the phone, not CPU TIME consumed by background processes. I am a senior IT architect and country manager in a multinational IT company, do you really want to argue over the meaning of the word "USAGE"? Nothing to do with mobiles though, but user interface and thereof wording is aimed to the USER's perspective, not technical terms. At least in that Apple are for sure quite good.

 

"Not ALL internal functions increment usage, but many do."

 

Okay could be, and probably is, but you do realize we're talking of a difference in hundreds of percent? If I have 2 hours of usage and it says I used the phone for 6 hours, there is clearly something not okay in the background. Or you don't agree?

 

"However, there SHOULD be a significant difference between usage and standby times, so if your are essentially the same, you probably have a rogue process that didn't terminate, "

 

You must have at least looked at that big screenshot there, I have 4 days of standby with 6 hours of usage with cellular data off and thereof as result anything that data access caries with it (weather checks, time zones, whatever the phone may be doing in the background that I am not alerted of).

 

Man, you need to relax, I love my apple devices, likely I have more of them than the average Apple customer (many iphones of ALL generations, 27" mac, 2 ipads etc etc) and I hate the fact there are problems with my phone's battery life. But there ARE and it is a FACT. My Ipad 2 is also on iOS 5.01, with 3g and all bells&whistles enabled lasts forever, I've never even looked at the usage stats, it lasts literally for weeks. Even with Skype over 3G always enabled it still lasts like 4-5 days, I don't know. That is NOT to say I compare the battery of an iPhone and an iPad, cause I feel this is your next argument coming up with highway speed It is just to note that iPad2 does not seem to suffer from the same issues, whilst running the same operating system level.

 

"BTW, you paid way too much for your iPhone."

 

This is how much it costs in Europe, there's no too much or not enough. 650 to 850 euro or so for the different capacity.

For $1,100, I would regret buying the iPhone 4s if battery life was 30 days!!!!!!!!!    Yikes!

AliAR wrote:

 

I paid even more than he did, a little bit over $1,100. For what? For a phone that won't run over a day with all settings on but we have to turn off all the settings to make it last for 2 days. This is the first time for me to say this: I regret buying the iPhone. I thought it was going to be as it is specified but looks like I was wrong. I wish I can get a refund for this piece of sh**.